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condoms, should be distributed at school?
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post May 14 2004, 02:10 AM
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QUOTE(xjjajeengx @ May 14 2004, 12:37 AM)
blink.gif The legal age for having intercourse is 18. I dont think immature is the case here, i think it's more like being conservative and being legal (even if most teens do it anyway)

I think otherwise. Kids are not fully aware of the reason for sex except for enjoyment even in highschool. True, some may truly be in love and what not, but sex can sometimes twist a person's mind and cause them to sleep around more for the pleasure than being fully engaged in it for the right reasons. This leads to the whole hoe/jiggalo deal. blink.gif

Yes, protection is the way to be. i agree on that. but...

"kids will ahve sex if they want to"
But those kids dont realize that its not a matter of if they want to or not, its a matter of true commitment, love, and sincerity not a matter of "because i want to" thoughts.


and you're wondering... how do i know this stupid bs? i have no clue...  blink.gif im not a debater as you can see...

Alright, do you live in Canada? There is no such "legal" age to have sex. You can't have sex with a minor if you are over 18 (which kind of sucks, because unless your boyfriend is EXACTLY the same age as you, you'd be committing a crime by having sex with them before your 18th birthday if he's already 18). This is the ONLY law regarding sex and age. Sure, be conservative, it's your choice. However,
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"kids will ahve sex if they want to"
But those kids dont realize that its not a matter of if they want to or not, its a matter of true commitment, love, and sincerity not a matter of "because i want to" thoughts.


No. Hello? Some kids are idiots, and don't love the person they are having sex with. But others, do love their partners. It's a way of expressing themselves. They will have sex if and when they want as well. Whether or not they have sex is not your business, it's not mine either. But schools should distribute condoms for those who are making their own personal decisions about their bodies, so there aren't any mistakes.

Me? I just buy my own condoms, and wink at the salesperson as i do. biggrin.gif they know what's up!


also, not to be predjudiced, but i've noticed that a lot of asians are opposed to sex. i don't know why... but just an observation. i'm asian but i don't feel this way..
 
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post May 14 2004, 04:56 AM
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Condoms being passed out at schools does promote sex in a way, but it's better to promote a little safe sex then to have some kids risk unprotected sex.

4 couples having safe sex, sex promoted by condoms at schools > 2 couples that decided to go ahead and have unsafe sex.

">" = lesser of two "evils".
 
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nope. buy your own if you want them so much. people will just use them to make practical jokes around school.
 
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post May 14 2004, 11:16 AM
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well mabye not handed out but possibly like alittle box in the nurses office or something, i think if they were handing them out people would thik its ok to have sex at such an early age : wink.gif
 
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also, not to be predjudiced, but i've noticed that a lot of asians are opposed to sex. i don't know why... but just an observation. i'm asian but i don't feel this way..


How'd you end up with this observation?_smile.gif
 
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post May 14 2004, 12:09 PM
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How'd you end up with this observation?

I'm not trying to bash you or anything, but sit down and think about this question. How does one end up with an observation? Perhaps by observing?
 
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post May 14 2004, 12:16 PM
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My middle school and highs school's approach to sex education and teaching about STDs was to basically make us do projects on STDs and instill nothing but fear into us.

[ However, you could always tell which kids were in health because you would hear conversations in the hallway like 'what do you have?' 'I got herpes.' 'Cool. I got chlamydia.' ]

I think it would have better if they also discussed ways to prevent the STDs more than just scaring us with nasty pictures. I think passing out condoms would have helped.
 
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QUOTE(rivendell @ May 14 2004, 1:16 PM)
My middle school and highs school's approach to sex education and teaching about STDs was to basically make us do projects on STDs and instill nothing but fear into us.

[ However, you could always tell which kids were in health because you would hear conversations in the hallway like 'what do you have?' 'I got herpes.' 'Cool. I got chlamydia.' ]

I think it would have better if they also discussed ways to prevent the STDs more than just scaring us with nasty pictures. I think passing out condoms would have helped.

im sorrey but that was just funney.
 
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post May 14 2004, 03:27 PM
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Yea they should. Only start at like sophomore year of high school, because that would be influencomg 9th graders.
I mean, they're gonna do it anyway, so at least encourage them to protect themselves. Would you rather be friends with a pregnant girl in her sophomore year, or see a condom?
Well maybe not GIVE them out, give them to people planning to use them for...you know.
 
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post May 14 2004, 05:19 PM
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i think its a good idea.
my high school does it and a lot of girls ask for them and because they didnt have to face the humilition of buying one, they use it when they're having sex. it helps a lot and a lot of girls are grateful for it.
the school isnt TELLING YOU to have sex. they're telling you "we know youre doing it anyway, just please, be safe." and thats a good message to send. that they're not commanding you, but asking.
 
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post May 14 2004, 05:21 PM
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uhhh......im sayin they should cuz some kids are gonna do it anyways......so mite as well give them protection
 
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post May 14 2004, 06:02 PM
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If people want condoms, they can buy it themselves.

Passing out condoms is like encouraging kids to have sex.

And there is also a chance that people can transmit stds and get pregnant, even WITH condoms.

So I say no.

What the school really should do is teach kids about abstenance (did I spell that right?)
 
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post May 14 2004, 06:30 PM
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Alright, do you live in Canada? There is no such "legal" age to have sex. You can't have sex with a minor if you are over 18 (which kind of sucks, because unless your boyfriend is EXACTLY the same age as you, you'd be committing a crime by having sex with them before your 18th birthday if he's already 18). This is the ONLY law regarding sex and age. Sure, be conservative, it's your choice.

I was referring to the "no sex with minor" thingy (except i had it all wrong) my bad. rolleyes.gif i apologize.
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No. Hello? Some kids are idiots, and don't love the person they are having sex with. But others, do love their partners. It's a way of expressing themselves. They will have sex if and when they want as well. Whether or not they have sex is not your business, it's not mine either. But schools should distribute condoms for those who are making their own personal decisions about their bodies, so there aren't any mistakes.

But thass not the point whether or not its our buisness, the point im trying to say (sorry if i confused you) is that KIDS ARE IDIOTS WHEN IT COMES TO SEX because of influence and just today's whacked up society. So, passing out condoms is like encouraging them to have sex, especially since kids these days are curious (like kids haha)
Well, it WILL become our buisness if the person you happen to marry, cherish, and show intimate love with happens to be someone that slept around in highschool and contracted aids or some other disease, and it will also become ur children's buisness when their father has to tellt hem that the reason why they're going to die before they turn 20 is beacuse he gave aids to them. I mean, passing out condoms in highschoool may help to save a few people from getting AIDS, but its not going to do them well if they dont chose to wear it all the time and end up sleeping around like hoes. I'm not saying its a bad idea, my saying is that its encouraging them to sleep around thus it shouldnt be done. Our world hs become some sick@$$ place... i mean, i know some people who just sleep around like 3 times a week with like different guys every frikken time, guys that are like 12876418763821763 older then them, and they're younger than me. Passing out condoms in my opinion is like saying, "Sleeping around is fine, as long as you use protection." Okay, condoms arent even 100% protective all the time everytime.

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Me? I just buy my own condoms, and wink at the salesperson as i do.  they know what's up!
also, not to be predjudiced, but i've noticed that a lot of asians are opposed to sex. i don't know why... but just an observation. i'm asian but i don't feel this way..

laugh.gif HAHAHAHA LOLS!! wink.gif okay back on track.
Well, maybe it's cause our parents arent really open with the term "sex." they're very... erm... secretive about it. I mean, when i walked in on my parents having some quality time when i was a preshcooler, okay.... i mean, my dad was like yelling at me and my mom was all blushing but mad at the same time. goodness. laugh.gif all they ahd to do was shoo me out. JEEZ. but as for most american families, i think that the mom and the daughter always talk about bfs and such, sometimes i wish it was like that with mynes too... cry.gif bu anyways.
Not all asians are conservative on sex. In my opinion, i think that alot of asians start sex early... esp. like gurls and guys who are really like... outgoing and are influenced by sisters and brothers who are like that. I mean, like almost all of the group i hung out with in 6th grade started having 'fun' in 6th grade... YES i know that is disgusting. maybe thass just my school being really gross, but i've heard so many things from my other friends in cali (basically from church) about how their friend's parents dont give a sh!t and they're never home ands tuff, and so they have like all these "gurl and guy" times where they happen to be missing for a while... huh.gif no more details. basically, i dont agree with this observation completely, but i guess most "typical" asians laugh.gif are. i dont know...
 
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post May 14 2004, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(xjjajeengx @ May 14 2004, 6:30 PM)
I was referring to the "no sex with minor" thingy (except i had it all wrong) my bad. rolleyes.gif i apologize.

But thass not the point whether or not its our buisness, the point im trying to say (sorry if i confused you) is that KIDS ARE IDIOTS WHEN IT COMES TO SEX because of influence and just today's whacked up society. So, passing out condoms is like encouraging them to have sex, especially since kids these days are curious (like kids haha)
Well, it WILL become our buisness if the person you happen to marry, cherish, and show intimate love with happens to be someone that slept around in highschool and contracted aids or some other disease, and it will also become ur children's buisness when their father has to tellt hem that the reason why they're going to die before they turn 20 is beacuse he gave aids to them. I mean, passing out condoms in highschoool may help to save a few people from getting AIDS, but its not going to do them well if they dont chose to wear it all the time and end up sleeping around like hoes. I'm not saying its a bad idea, my saying is that its encouraging them to sleep around thus it shouldnt be done. Our world hs become some sick@$$ place... i mean, i know some people who just sleep around like 3 times a week with like different guys every frikken time, guys that are like 12876418763821763 older then them, and they're younger than me. Passing out condoms in my opinion is like saying, "Sleeping around is fine, as long as you use protection." Okay, condoms arent even 100% protective all the time everytime.


laugh.gif HAHAHAHA LOLS!! wink.gif okay back on track.
Well, maybe it's cause our parents arent really open with the term "sex." they're very... erm... secretive about it. I mean, when i walked in on my parents having some quality time when i was a preshcooler, okay.... i mean, my dad was like yelling at me and my mom was all blushing but mad at the same time. goodness. laugh.gif all they ahd to do was shoo me out. JEEZ. but as for most american families, i think that the mom and the daughter always talk about bfs and such, sometimes i wish it was like that with mynes too... cry.gif bu anyways.
Not all asians are conservative on sex. In my opinion, i think that alot of asians start sex early... esp. like gurls and guys who are really like... outgoing and are influenced by sisters and brothers who are like that. I mean, like almost all of the group i hung out with in 6th grade started having 'fun' in 6th grade... YES i know that is disgusting. maybe thass just my school being really gross, but i've heard so many things from my other friends in cali (basically from church) about how their friend's parents dont give a sh!t and they're never home ands tuff, and so they have like all these "gurl and guy" times where they happen to be missing for a while... huh.gif no more details. basically, i dont agree with this observation completely, but i guess most "typical" asians laugh.gif are. i dont know...

Hopefully you won't marry the type of guy that would sleep around. Of course kids are idiots when it comes to sex, but everyone's gone through it! Well, not everyone. But it isn't the school's job to teach moral values. Just because they hand out condoms doesn't mean people will suddenly start sleeping around and contracting AIDS. There is a certain personality type that "sleeps around," and they will do this regardless. Condom or not. So wouldn't you want to minimize the chance of those "hoes" spreading "AIDS" to your "future husband" by giving them condoms? Giving out condoms doesn't encourage sleeping around... no one is weak minded enough that the concept of protection will choose their personal values FOR them. The person decides this for themselves when they are ready, condom or not.
 
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I agree with TBoltzbabe. I mean, I don't think it's bad that schools distribute condoms because it is not telling kids "Go do sex, here's protection". It's just a way to prevent STDs and pregnancy for those who choose to have sex. It depends on your moral values and stuff. If a person is not planning to have sex, they are not going to get a condom. I mean, it just depends on the person.
 
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post May 14 2004, 10:22 PM
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well i think it's a good idea to give out condoms; after explaining why you should use it. not to encourage sex, but safe sex. not pressuring people to have sex just because some people do. it's just they're decision. just look at it this way, how many people are already having sex, safe sex? how many are already pregnant and not ready for it? man, they should talk about birth control also..
 
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post May 14 2004, 11:55 PM
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I acutally odn't think so. A lot of kids wouldn't have sex because mostly they are scared of buying a comdom, or getting caught with one or something. But if thy are just given out around scohol....I think it might possibly encourage them to do it.

I mean, its a good idea and all, the theory is good, but would it really work is the thing.......
If they don't wanna use a condom, they won't. It has nothing to do iwth if they own one or not.

I think they should be educated about safe sex though.
 
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post May 15 2004, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(iheartsimba @ May 14 2004, 11:55 PM)
I acutally odn't think so. A lot of kids wouldn't have sex because mostly they are scared of buying a comdom, or getting caught with one or something. But if thy are just given out around scohol....I think it might possibly encourage them to do it.

no no, you see, in high school, if they are planning on having sex, they will. if they are too scared to buy condoms, they won't use one. and that is why they need to be distributed at school.

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what about like dildos....I mean, practice safe sex, MASTURBATE =P


And um yeah... that was sort of rude... please don't post things like that, that's pushing the appropriateness level...
 
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QUOTE(TBoltzbabe @ May 14 2004, 7:24 PM)
Hopefully you won't marry the type of guy that would sleep around. Of course kids are idiots when it comes to sex, but everyone's gone through it! Well, not everyone. But it isn't the school's job to teach moral values. Just because they hand out condoms doesn't mean people will suddenly start sleeping around and contracting AIDS. There is a certain personality type that "sleeps around," and they will do this regardless. Condom or not. So wouldn't you want to minimize the chance of those "hoes" spreading "AIDS" to your "future husband" by giving them condoms? Giving out condoms doesn't encourage sleeping around... no one is weak minded enough that the concept of protection will choose their personal values FOR them. The person decides this for themselves when they are ready, condom or not.

Well, I personally know lots of people whoa re okay right now, but in the past, they ahve been a bit on the ... more intimate side with females...

yea, i agree wih the whole "kids are idiots when it comes to sex" part. and also the "everyone is going through oit." But thass the whole point. Everyone is going through having so much sex without much cause, and whatnot. But the fact is that so many of my "connections" <---(lols haha i sound retarded) have past experiences they regret so much because of sex. Especially so many of my pastors, and leaders regret so much, and wish they never had done sex.
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school was not only established to teach students to read and write and study. I mean, reason why we study social studies other than learning political stuff... we learn moral values and learn from others' past mistakes.
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Just because they hand out condoms doesn't mean people will suddenly start sleeping around and contracting AIDS.

Im not saying that every case will be like that. Im saying that even if so rarely, there are cases such as these and thye should be taken into consideration.
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The person decides this for themselves when they are ready, condom or not.

being sometimes the stupid humans we are, sometimes people dont get it that thye arent ready; they simply go by their curiouslity wich leads them to do stupid things at times. Passing out condoms can and possibly will encourage people to have sex, esp because of curiousity. True, people make their own decisions, but sometimes, esp in highschool, people will be stupid at their own risk when it comes to sex. Im not syaing that everyone who does sex is bad or anything cause i disagree with that. I just dont want anyone to have to go through so much because of some mistake they did in highschool, because they werent ready but curiousity led elsewhere.
 
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Yes and No.

Its basically a no win situation either way.
If you hand them out at school then people might think you're encouraging them to have sex.
But it's better to be safe than sorry.
 
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yeah, i'd much rather have a 100% protection rate and increceased sexual activity than decreased sexual activity but have the entire sexually active high school infested with STDS
 
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i think it's just encourageing students to have sex... but they should... because one maybe better off having sex with a condom than with out

they shouldn't be passing them out... but if the students want some they can go ask the nurse... like what henry said
 
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i think it's just encourageing students to have sex... but they should... because one maybe better off having sex with a condom than with out

they shouldn't be passing them out... but if the students want some they can go ask the nurse... like what henry said

I agree... I guess it shouldn't be like "here you go, have a condom, go have safe sex" but rather give them one, or two, if they go request some at the nurses office
 
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condoms dont really protect u against STDs whlie u have sex, u knoe that? =/
 
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Umm. to me i dont think so because some people could use it for rape and others just to have sex and i know i wouldnt want so see people having sex in the hallway but thats only my perspective.
 

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