Scenesters Options

[*Kathleen*]

What's your definition and opinion of 'em? Just curious.

[Ington]

Sammi, I think its more of a "I'm straightedge so stop f**king offering me drinks" thing.

Some people do it for the scene, but I could imagine Kathleen is the type who'd say she's straightedge so that she doesn't have to state every little thing she doesn't believe in doing.

"Hey, want a drink?"
"No, thats okay"
"Want a smoke?"
"No, thats okay"
"Want a --"
"I'M STRAIGHTEDGE DAMMIT"
"Oh, okay. Bye."

[parallel]

Scenesters are people with their own opinions and style.
So basically they're cool.
Yes. My cousin[s] are scene.
I adore them. And their friends.

[verlorenrivets]

Is there an emoticon for vomiting on these boards? I could really use one right now. That's about as close as it gets. People who are "scene" are far from original.

I've got a bedtime story for all the scenester boys and girls. It's called
your ideas are pithy, and yet unoriginal.

The story begins in a scenester's basement.

Scenester A says, "Oh, let's take a dead guy's personal preferences and make an ideology out of it!"

Scenester B says in reply, "Okay! Sounds grand! While we're at that, let's all do it the same way and be violent about it!"

Scenester C (Who am I kidding you're all the same) says, "Ravishing good idea!"

Non scenester comes up and says, "Can I play too?"

Scenester blob replys, "Nay, you're much too fat, and you don't have your hair all flopped in your face like the lot of us"

Non scenester replys, "But I can change!"

Scenester blob now transforms into scenester laser and blasts proton beams at non scenester, saying, "WE SAID NO! You're not cool enough! And since you came later than the rest of us, you will never be as cool as us!"

Intelligent person A points out the fact that being elitist about a dead subculture and making an ideology about it is stupid.

Scenester laser blows up Intelligent person A.

Moral of the story is, you're unoriginal. The whole scene thing is unoriginal. Being part of an unoriginal ideology is unoriginal. Go do your homework, and then go to sleep. If you're not going to do that, at least know a little about where your "scene" heritage is, for cripes sake.

[NoSex]

I like to use the Zombie analogy myself, but... not bad.

[q1w23e4r5t6y7u8i...]

The scene kids that I know all:

cant decide on a haircolor
look like a 4 year old cut their hair
think it's flattering to wear sunglasses that are as big as their head
safety pin their pants so that they are "tight" (which makes me sick, because they, and every other kid who think's they're punk rock because they have green hair and a leather jacket, used to talk shit on me for wearing tight pants)
think dinosaurs and robots are 'teh sex!11'
type things like 'kthxbye' 'sup fill in the blank?' 'im a dino raaaawr'
are overweight and wear clothes that are skintight
think they're cool because they went to a local show
totally killed our local scene
think they're tough/hot/skinny/betterthaneveryoneelse
are rude and stuck up because it makes them feel better about themselves
think they are SO original
think they're straight edge (but smoke weed)
have never even heard of Minor Threat
Think hardcore bands are Killswitch Engage, Hawthorne Heights, Senses Fail, etc.
Just kidding, real scene kids only listen to music that nobody else has heard of



Oh, and in regards to the straight edge discussion that's going on, whenever I see a kid at school (who looks like they could be in the 6th grade) with Xs drawn on their hands, I 'offer' them a cigarette, or ask them where the show was at. The reactions are often priceless.

[*mipadi*]

This place absolutely reeks of teen angst.

As for scenesters, I've always looked at them as people who are down with the music scene--or like to think they are, anyway. They typically go to shows, follow the latest "anti-trends", and often try to highlight their "geekiness" and/or social awkwardness.

Alright, I guess that was a bit of a biased opinion. I mean, there are some okay scenesters, but I think, for the most part, they are people who are following a trend--or, as I noted, an anti-trend.

Does that make them bad? Does that make them sheep? No to the first question; sort of to the second. I guess I'll try to be one of the few who hasn't totally busted on the poor scenesters and try to defend them a bit. Most scenesters are middle school or high school students. Middle- and high school students are all trying to fit in somewhere; there are very few who are content to be anti-social and live on the fringe of their peers' society. Some try to fit in with the high-class "preppy" kids (for lack of a better term), some with the athletes, some with the drug users. There are a lot of kids who are marginalized in the society of middle- and high school, kids who don't really have a place--not a fun position to be in. So it seems that a lot of them have found idols to follow in punk- and alternative-rock bands, have found ways to highlight their nerdiness or bookishness or intelligence, and more importantly, have found others who are like them. Unfortunately, over time, they have developed a certain elitism about themselves, just as the "preps" or the athletes have a certain elitism, too.

As far as the straight edge discussion goes, I am neither for nor against it. Yes, I guess today's straight edge is a bastardization of Ian McKaye's vision (and let's remember than McKaye never intended for it to become a large movement, or even a movement at all), but I don't think it's all bad. It takes a lot of guts, especially in middle- and high school, to take a stand and say, "I'm not going to drink, or smoke, or do drugs, or engage in promiscuous sexual activities," and I applaud anyone who does that, even if they have to apply a label to themselves to do it. Sure, I guess it would be better if someone could just take those stands and not have to advertise it (because, let's be honest, in high school, even I got sick of whiny teenagers saying, "I'm straight edge, I don't drink or smoke or f**k") but hey, if you're going to call yourself straight edge--and really adhere to the straight edge values--more power to you.

[verlorenrivets]

I agree with you mipadi, and I just have one thing left to say, and I'll leave this alone.

In order to adhere to the values of something, you should know the history of that something that you're basing your values off of. I don't care if you're scene as shit as long as you at least know what you're talking about. That does even go down to the abbreviations for things. I'm done. Thank you for your time.

[q1w23e4r5t6y7u8i...]

In order to adhere to the values of something, you should know the history of that something that you're basing your values off of.

This just needs to be said over and over again.

[NoSex]

Yes, Midpadi. Well said. Very well said.

[*StanleyThePanda*]

I don't do drugs, I don't drink, and I'm a virgin, but I don't need a symbol to tell me that, nor do I need a symbol to tell others that. Anyone who knows me knows I don't do that stuff.

AMEN!

[d0t0rg]

Why the hell do you need a symbol to tell you what "group" you belong to? Why can't you just do your own thing?

She's the one who said she was Straight edge, you obiviously didn't pay attention to her post. Some dumb ass you look like now.

[*disco infiltrator*]

....
I know she did.
I said you don't need a symbol to say who you are.
Me.
Not her.

[racoons > you]

Some dumb ass you look like now.

ah. i detect the irony fairy dancing about...

lol. scene people are just people, but with a different label