the moderator hiring process, the completion of Options

[micron]

there are a couple of things you guys missed when voting in the mod hiring process. it should be more comprehensive and should include:

-alloted time for the different steps of the process, for example, one week for nominations, three days for nominees accepting... etc
-where its being held and that a supplimentary discussion topic will be created in the lounge
-how exactly will admins come up with the final decisions? its better that we make everything transparent.



a tip when writing / amending bylaws, remember to ask and include:

-why? why do we need this?
-what? all the whats, ie what abilities do have members have?
-when? when should it take place?
-who? who should be involved?
-where? where should it take place?
-how? how exactly will it take place?

[*incoherent*]

^
that wouldnt work because you cant post anonymously in the lounge.

[*mzkandi*]

I have another idea.

I have another idea as well, please respond to my pm.

[sadolakced acid]

what could be done is that mod nominations are PMed to one person who puts them in the thread.

thus, the only way to know who nominated would be to do writing style analysis.

[*incoherent*]

^
doesnt sound like a bad idea...maybe put and admin or someone else in charge of collecting all the nominations and make a closed post.

[sadolakced acid]

^ probably just an active mod, no need to further burden the top.

[*mzkandi*]

I personally dont see anything wrong with the way we have it now. The only other thing I can think up is posting nominations backstage with the reason why mods nominated then have a moderator posting the names in announcements.

[racoons > you]

i dont fully understand that, stephen

[*incoherent*]

whos stephen?

Spiritual Winged Aura?

[*mzkandi*]

^That would be correct.

[*incoherent*]

oh...well what did he say that you didnt get?

[*mzkandi*]

^ James is the one who didnt get what he said.

[*incoherent*]

thats who it was directed to. sorry for the confusion.

[racoons > you]

i didnt understand the suggestion he made

[micron]

ok guys, discussion is good and all, but the alloted times, proccesses, etc, should be formalized into the bylaws. thats why i started this topic, to include the specifics into the bylaws to iron out all the ambiguities.

also, the polling system WILL NOT WORK, since people can only vote for ONE candidate, favoring the exceptionally qualified above all others. not to mention results can easily be manipulated by registering multiple accounts to place a vote. unless the bylaws committee come up with something else, im considering skipping that entire process. please keep in mind that this is perfectly okay, as the bylaws currently give a working guideline more than anything else, at least until it is finalized. to be finalized, it it must be approved by the admins + me. so please please mindful of the admins + my requests.

and the comment regarding why the nominations are in public - i purposefully made it public, so that everyone can scrutinize each staff members nominee's. because they are accountable for their decisions, this will lead to, hopefully, more qualified nominee's.

[Heathasm]

unless we can find some sort of alternate poll that allows more than one choice were going to HAVE to manually count up the votes when the time comes . . . and that way we can check ips to insure no duplicate acct voting

[sadolakced acid]

unless it's voting backstage, by mods. then even if you make a new account it's not able to vote.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Well, the polls were for the community, not the mods...

Yea, I suppose we'll just have a thread, and people will post their input there? Like before? Mhm...

We don't really have to count them up anyway. The thread will just be used as community input.

[sadolakced acid]

three guesses who'd be first in a comunity poll, and the first two don't count.

:cough:michael:cough:

[racoons > you]

i dunno, justin... i bet you coul give him a good run

[misoshiru]

i found the accepting of the nominations a bit short, especially since it's thanksgiving weekend.

[micron]

hi all,
this time, im going forgo the polls and create a thread in the lounge to count as community input. hope everyone's fine with that. in the meantime, if you are serious about getting the bylaws together, i encourage you to be proactive about it. you dont need to be a bylaw committee member to make a difference!

[demolished]

I'm not stephen. I'm STEVEN.

^
that wouldnt work because you cant post anonymously in the lounge.

Um. I thought it's going to be in this forum. Oh well.

[*mzkandi*]

Well to be fair, if you were around more we know that :/

i found the accepting of the nominations a bit short, especially since it's thanksgiving weekend.

Adding on to that, I think we are going to need more than a day to make a decision on the new hiring staff. Past hirings have taken up to a week to decide.

[misoshiru]

^ hahah no, i got confused about the time deadlines because of the time differences. at first, i thought jusun meant 12:00 in the morning, but then, later on, he pmed me and told me that it was at 11:59 at night.

[Mulder]

Well to be fair, if you were around more we know that :/
Adding on to that, I think we are going to need more than a day to make a decision on the new hiring staff. Past hirings have taken up to a week to decide.

to really make a fair, informed decision, i think you would need to. a lot of the staff dont know most of the people nominated, so how can they judge them in a day?