Does bush suck? Options

[WildGriffin]

I'm stealing this from someone. I'm not too sure, you can't really tell these things till after a term. But so far, he's on the road to suckage.

He sucked before he was prez., didnt he have a couple DWI's or DUI's or whatever the fark they're called? He also ditched his duties as a national guardsmen or whatever. And...he was a coke head.

So says my political bible written by a democratic satirist, "lies and the lying liars who tell them."

[*kryogenix*]

Osama didn't kill 3000 Americans when Clinton was in office and the warnings concerning him weren't at such a frenzy as they were a month before 9/11

But he plotted to kill the thousands of americans in time square and seattle during the New Year Plot. Just because no one died (thanks to the alertness of a border guard and NYC police), doesn't mean Bin Laden shouldn't be caught. Attempted murder is a crime too.

We arn't in Syria or where ever the black market thrives, we're still in Iraq fighting and were lead there believeing we'd find WMDs.

because we haven't dismissed the fact that weapons could still be there. and I think the US should stick to fighting as few wars at a time as possible.

[juliar]

the thing is we are being selective international police. We help those who benefits us, of course people are more willing to help someone who will benefit them, but that shouldn't be our motive

Well, we are the police around here, and those that don't benefit us are usually the violent ones.
Which country have we fought that turned out to be COMPLETELY innocent?

[onenonly101]

That is untrue that the ones that don't benefit us are violent. that is such a biased thought.

[*kryogenix*]

well i am hoping i'm the first to inform you that Iraq had nothing to do with September 11th. NOTHING.

I'll tell you what he should have done. He should have captured the people responsible for this!! duhh... but Iraq? Mmmm.... unrelated.

Saddam funded terrorists. terrorists attacked on 9/11. put those two together.

Key terrorists have been caught, the Taliban is gone and Bin Laden is on the run.

[onenonly101]

Saddam funded terrorists. terrorists attacked on 9/11. put those two together.

Bush had been planning to go to Iraq when he first got into office way before 9/11

[WildGriffin]

Saddam funded terrorists. terrorists attacked on 9/11. put those two together

Saddam didn't fund the taliban, we did. put that together.

You never Rebutted, and i need constent confirmation that i'm being heard lol.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

Bush had been planning to go to Iraq when he first got into office way before 9/11

have any proof?

[onenonly101]

yeah i was just lookingat it last night let me find it again...

[juliar]

That is untrue that the ones that don't benefit us are violent. that is such a biased thought.

As I said before, which of the countries we have attacked were peaceful?
And we do oppose those that are violent against us and to others. It was necessary to go into Iraq to inspect because Iraq said that they had WMDs.

[Mireh]

Having a good rep would make someone NOT suck, so yeah. Having a bad rep does make him suck.

I ment BEFORE he became president.


And, it shouldn't say that our president sucks. He represents us, and I'd say that he's doing quite well. Lets see YOU handle this. What would you have done?

And if you don't like him, all you do is simply not vote for him next election.

Dude, you're awesome.

Here's another.
Everyone go to google.com and look up "failure".

haha your right. biography of bush
i looked it up and that was what i got...

I don't think you can compare Bush to Hitler and get away with it.

First of all, we live in a free country, and we have the right to believe what we want. If Bush sucks for you because you just simply feel that way, that's fine and dandy. But saying that Bush sucks because of Home Land Security is kind of silly.

After 9/11, I felt so insecure, and questioned how could those killers get through our defenses. Well, the answer was simple: our defenses wasn't that hard to crack through. I for once, feel safer with HomeLand Security.

And like Jose said, I don't think anyone could've done better than Bush when 9/11 occured.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like him much, but I can't find any of these Bush-bashing justifiable.

um they just did compare the two and get away with it. and your right. techniqually i can get arrested for writing a [jokeing email] to somewhone about bombs and a new terror attack and get arested.....fcuk that bithces!!


bush is so erg he just makes me mad. he is wrong. he is agianst any religion except christianity and speaks of G-d and jesus constantly in his speaches. oh and btw have you ever noticed that all those who suport him sit right up front and the sign holders who speak against him are forced to move to the back?? right to assemble??!!

[juliar]

right to assemble??!!

The right to assemble is that they are allowed to assemble. He isn't trying to break up the sign-holder's meeting. They have their right to assemble.

The right to assemble is that they are allowed to assemble. He isn't trying to break up the sign-holder's meeting. They have their right to assemble.

oh no, i thought that they could assemble anywhere that they wanted to.[except private property] but as far as i know bush doesnt give them the right to stand anywhere, nor does he stand on public property. the sign holders are always forced to the back!~

100 Mistakes for the President to Choose From

May 3, 2004

During a prime time press conference on April 13, President Bush was asked to name a mistake that he has made since taking office and what he has learned from it. Bush, who was unable to answer the question, admitted "maybe I'm not as quick on my feet as I should be in coming up with [a mistake]." But weeks later, Bush still hasn't answered the question. In the interest of assisting the President with this surprisingly difficult task we've compiled this list of 100 mistakes he has made since taking office:

Iraq

1. Failing to build a real international coalition prior to the Iraq invasion, forcing the US to shoulder the full cost and consequences of the war.

2. Approving the demobilization of the Iraqi Army in May, 2003 – bypassing the Joint Chiefs of Staff and reversing an earlier position, the President left hundreds of thousands of armed Iraqis disgruntled and unemployed, contributing significantly to the massive security problems American troops have faced during occupation.

3. Not equipping troops in Iraq with adequate body armor or armored HUMVEES.

4. Ignoring the advice Gen. Eric Shinseki regarding the need for more troops in Iraq – now Bush is belatedly adding troops, having allowed the security situation to deteriorate in exactly the way Shinseki said it would if there were not enough troops.

5. Ignoring plans drawn up by the Army War College and other war-planning agencies, which predicted most of the worst security and infrastructure problems America faced in the early days of the Iraq occupation.

6. Making a case for war which ignored intelligence that there were no Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq.

7. Deriding "nation-building" during the 2000 debates, then engaging American troops in one of the most explicit instances of nation building in American history.

8. Predicting along with others in his administration that US troops would be greeted as liberators in Iraq.

9. Predicting Iraq would pay for its own reconstruction.

10. Wildly underestimating the cost of the war.

11. Trusting Ahmed Chalabi, who has dismissed faulty intelligence he provided the President as necessary for getting the Americans to topple Saddam.

12. Disbanding the Sunni Baathist managers responsible for Iraq's water, electricity, sewer system and all the other critical parts of that country's infrastructure.

13. Failing to give UN weapons inspectors enough time to certify if weapons existed in Iraq.

14. Including discredited intelligence concerning Nigerian Yellow Cake in his 2003 State of the Union.

15. Announcing that "major combat operations in Iraq have ended" aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln on May 1, 2003, below a "Mission Accomplished" banner – more U.S. soldiers have died in combat since Bush's announcement than before it.

16. Awarding a multi-billion dollar contract to Halliburton in Iraq, which then repeatedly overcharged the government and served troops dirty food.

17. Refusing to cede any control of Post-invasion Iraq to the international community, meaning reconstruction has received limited aid from European allies or the U.N.

18. Failing to convince NATO allies why invading Iraq was important.

19. Having no real plan for the occupation of Iraq.

20. Limiting bidding on Iraq construction projects to "coalition partners," unnecessarily alienating important allies France, Germany and Russia.

21. Diverting $700 million into Iraq invasion planning without informing Congress.

22. Shutting down an Iraqi newspaper for "inciting violence" – the move, which led in short order to street fighting in Fallujah, incited more violence than the newspaper ever had.

23. Telling Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan about plans to go to war with Iraq before Secretary of State Colin Powell.

Counterterrorism

24. Allowing several members of the Bin Laden family to leave the country just days after 9/11, some of them without being questioned by the FBI.

25. Focusing on missile defense at the expense of counterterrorism prior to 9/11.

26. Thinking al Qaeda could not attack without state sponsors, and ignoring evidence of a growing threat unassociated with "rogue states" like Iraq or North Korea.

27. Threatening to veto the Homeland Security department – The President now concedes such a department "provides the ability for our agencies to coordinate better and to work together better than it was before."

28. Opposing the creation of the September 11th commission, which the President now expects "to contain important recommendations for preventing future attacks."

29. Denying documents to the 9/11 commission, only relenting after the commissioners threatened a subpoena.

30. Failing to pay more attention to an August 6, 2001 PDB entitled "Bin laden Determined to Attack in U.S."

31. Repeatedly ignoring warnings of terrorists planning to use    aircraft before 9/11.

32. Appointing the ultra-secretive Henry Kissinger to head the 9/11 commission – Kissinger stepped down weeks later due to conflicts of interest.

33. Asking for testimony before the 9/11 commission be limited to one hour, a position from which the president later backtracked.

34. Not allowing national Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice to testify before the 9/11 commission – Bush changed his mind as pressure mounted.

35. Cutting an FBI request for counterterrorism funds by two-thirds after 9/11.

36. Telling Americans there was a link between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda.

37. Failing to adequately secure the nation's nuclear weapons labs.

38. Not feeling a sense of urgency about terrorism or al Qaeda before 9/11.

Afghanistan

39. Reducing resources and troop levels in Afghanistan and out before it was fully secure.

40. Not providing security in Afghanistan outside of Kabul, leaving nearly 80% of the Afghan population unprotected in areas controlled by Feudal warlords and local militias.

41. Committing inadequate resources for the reconstruction of Afghanistan.

42. Counting too heavily on locally trained troops to fill the void in Afghanistan once U.S. forces were relocated to Iraq.

43. Not committing US ground troops to the capture of Osama Bin Laden, when he was cornered in the Tora Bora region of          Afghanistan in November, 2001.

44. Allowing opium production to resume on a massive scale after the ouster of the Taliban.

Weapons of Mass Destruction

45. Opposing an independent inquiry into the intelligence failures surrounding WMD – later, upon signing off on just such a commission, Bush claimed he was "determined to make sure that American intelligence is as accurate as possible for every challenge in the future."

46. Saying: "We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories."

47. Trusting intelligence gathered by Vice President Cheney's and Secretary Rumsfeld's "Office of Special Plans."

48. Spending $6.5 billion on nuclear weapons this year to develop new nuclear weapons this    year – 50% more in real dollars than the average during the cold war – while shortchanging the troops on body armor.

Foreign Policy

49. Ignoring the importance of the Middle East peace process, which has deteriorated with little oversight or strategy evident in the region.

50. Siding with China in February, 2004 against a democratic referenda proposed by Taiwan, a notable shift from an earlier pledge to stand with "oppressed peoples until the day of their freedom finally arrives."

51. Undermining the War on Terrorism by preemptively invading Iraq.

52. Failing to develop a specific plan for dealing with North Korea.

53. Abandoning the United States' traditional role as an evenhanded negotiator in the Middle East peace process.

Economic

54. Signing a report endorsing outsourcing with thousands of American workers having their jobs shipped overseas.

55. Instituting steel tariffs deemed illegal by the World Trade Organization – Bush repealed them 20-months later when the European Union pledged to impose retaliatory sanctions on up to $2.2 billion in exports from the United States.

56. Promoting economic policies that failed to create new jobs.

57. Promoting economic policies that failed to help small businesses

58. Pledging a "jobs and growth" package would create 1,836,000 new jobs by the end of 2003 and 5.5 million new jobs by 2004—so far the president has fallen 1,615,000 jobs short of the mark.

59. Running up a foreign deficit of "such record-breaking proportions that it threatens the financial stability of the global economy."

60. Issuing inaccurate budget forecasts accompanying proposals to reduce the deficit, omitting the continued costs of Iraq, Afghanistan and elements of Homeland Security.

61. Claiming his 2003 tax cut would give 23 million small business owners an average tax cut of $2,042 when "nearly four out of every five tax filers (79%) with small business income would receive less" than that amount.

62. Passing tax cuts for the wealthy while falsely claiming "people in the 10 percent bracket" were benefiting most."

63. Passing successive tax cuts largely responsible for turning a projected surplus of $5 trillion into a projected deficit of $4.3 trillion.

64. Moving to strip millions of overtime pay.

65. Not enforcing corporate tax laws.

66. Backing down from a plan to make CEOs more accountable when "the corporate crowd" protested.

67. Not lobbying oil cartels to change their mind about cutting oil production.

68. Passing tax cuts weighted heavily to help the wealthy.

69. Moving to allow greater media consolidation.

70. Nominating a notorious proponent of outsourcing, Anthony F. Raimondo, to be the new manufacturing Czar—Raimondo withdrew his name days later amidst a flurry of harsh criticism.

71. Ignoring calls to extend unemployment benefits with long-term unemployment reaching a twenty-year high

72. Threatening to veto pension legislation that would give companies much needed temporary relief.

Education

73. Under-funding No Child Left Behind

74. Breaking his campaign pledge to increase the size of Pell grants.

75. Signing off on an FY 2005 budget proposing the smallest increase in education funding in nine years.

76. Under-funding the Title I Program, specifically targeted for disadvantaged kids, by $7.2 billion.

77. Freezing Teacher Quality State Grants, cutting off training opportunities for about 30,000 teachers, and leaving 92,000 less

teachers trained than the president called for in his own No Child Left Behind bill.

78. Freezing funding for English language training programs.

79. Freezing funding for after school programs, potentially eliminating 50,000 children from after-school programs.

Health

80. Not leveling with Americans about the cost of Medicare – the president told Congress his new Medicare bill would cost $400 billion over ten years despite conclusions by his own analysts the bill would cost upwards of $500 billion over that period.

81. Silencing Medicare actuary Richard Foster  when his estimates for the Administration's Medicare bill were too high.

82. Letting business associate David Halbert, who owns a company which stands to make millions from new discount drug cards, craft key elements of the new Medicare bill.

83. Underfunding health care for troops and veterans.

84. Allowing loopholes to persist in Mad-Cow regulations.

85. Relaxing food labeling restrictions on health claims.

86. Falsely claiming the restrictions on stem cell research would not hamper medical progress.

87. Reducing action against improper drug advertising by 80 percent.

Environment

88. Abandoning the Kyoto Treaty without offering an alternative for reducing greenhouse effect.

89. Counting on a voluntary program to reduce emissions of harmful gasses—so far only a tiny fraction of American companies have signed up.

90. Gutting clean air standards for aging power plants.

91. Weakening energy efficiency standards.

92. Relaxing dumping standards for mountaintop mining, and opening the Florida Everglades and Oregon's Siskiyou National Forest to mining.

93. Lifting protection for more than 200 million acres of public land.

94. Limiting public challenges to logging projects and increased logging in protected areas, including Alaska's Tongass National Forest.

95. Weakening environmental standards for snowmobiles and other off-road vehicles while pushing for exemptions for air pollution proposals for five categories of industrial facilities.

96. Opposing legislation that would require greater fuel efficiency for passenger cars.

97. Reducing inspections, penalties for violations, and prosecution of environmental crimes.

98. Misleading the public about the Washington mad cow case and the likely effectiveness of USDA's weak testing program.

99. Withdrawing public information on chemical plant dangers, previously used to hold facilities accountable for safety improvements.

Other

100. Cutting grants to state and local governments in FY 2005, forcing states to make massive cuts in job training, education, housing and environment.

[T00000]

oh no, i thought that they could assemble anywhere that they wanted to.[except private property] but as far as i know bush doesnt give them the right to stand anywhere, nor does he stand on public property. the sign holders are always forced to the back!~

hell yes.



i loved your post

[*kryogenix*]

Saddam didn't fund the taliban, we did. put that together.

You never Rebutted, and i need constent confirmation that i'm being heard lol.

by funding the war in afghanistan, we helped to dissolve the soviet union. put that together.

i rebutted, didn't spend too much time on it yet, sorry, i'll look at it later when i have more time.

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/meast/9812/16/iraq.strike.03/

wait, was the above during clinton's presidency? i wonder what could have caused clinton to attack Iraq...

[Spirited Away]

um they just did compare the two and get away with it. and your right. techniqually i can get arrested for writing a [jokeing email] to somewhone about bombs and a new terror attack and get arested.....fcuk that bithces!!

First of all:... huh? I don't get it, but I will try.

bush is so erg he just makes me mad. he is wrong. he is agianst any religion except christianity and speaks of G-d and jesus constantly in his speaches.

Uh, that's only an opinion. You can say that he's wrong, but I can say that I like a lot of his decisions, and to me: he's right . Just don't vote for him if you don't like him okay? It's not all that complicated.

oh and btw have you ever noticed that all those who suport him sit right up front and the sign holders who speak against him are forced to move to the back?? right to assemble??!!

That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard. Hehe. Take Kerry for example, if I and a group of other anti-Kerry people protests against him for Presidency, do you think he'd even let me anywhere near the building, let alone "move[ed] to the back"?? I shouldn't even have to tell you that.. it's common sense.

Right to assemble? If your rights overlaps another person's rights, you can lose your rights. Another example: freedom of speech. You cannot go on an airplain and yell "high jack!" because you feel like it, because you're violating other people's right.

Get it?

[WildGriffin]

And if you don't like him, all you do is simply not vote for him next election.

Ya know, less people voted for him then for Gore...so i don't know if your "dont vote for him" theory will work. Anyways, I can't vote yet which really pisses me of. There should be like some sort of test to gauge political prowess. I'd fail it..but hey...maybe i can pull a Bush and squeek by.

by funding the war in afghanistan, we helped to dissolve the soviet union. put that together.

by dissolving the soviet union, we put funds in dangerous hands. it's an endless loop argument, point is everyone indirectly funds terrorists. Hell, even potheads are funding terrorists....so the commercials say.

bush is so erg he just makes me mad.

some of your arguments are so erg they make me cry

wait, was the above during clinton's presidency? i wonder what could have caused clinton to attack Iraq...

Saddam was being an asshat and not allowing access to UN inspectors, it was a different scenario this time around. They had unrestricted access to everywhere, even Saddam's palaces for like 2 months before the war was declared by Bush.

From Article:
"In a televised address, Clinton accused Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein of failing to live up to his commitment to allow unrestricted access to U.N. weapons inspectors."

[strice]

people always say, don't be so hard on him, you should accept him, he's out leader, and various rubbish like that. people seem to think its so horrible to speak out against the president. i, for one, refuse to allow this moron further desecrate the already tarnished reputation of America in our name! I find it more useful to try to educate people rather than stand around and go hmm, this guy is screwing us over, oh well!

[divinity_star]

People can sit here and type their excuses for disliking the president but for all of you eligible to vote, how many of you actually voted? Or for those of you who can't , will you even vote in the future? People can't vote and then complain, yet they didn't even attempt anything...

[strice]

your side is vague, and how do you know we've done nothing? i've protested the war and i'm a member of the ever growing moveon.org, among others. i'm not yet of the voting age.

[machinoman]

As I said before, which of the countries we have attacked were peaceful?
And we do oppose those that are violent against us and to others. It was necessary to go into Iraq to inspect because Iraq said that they had WMDs.

im assuming you meant to say iraq said they did not have wmd. i specifically remember them saying they didnt have them. and as people with common sense now know, they in fact did not.

[likeachild]

he's doing his best i guess
what would you do if you were faced with all this?

[WildGriffin]

will you even vote in the future?

This requires a "duh" response. Duh, of course i will stoopid, lolz. It's like donating blood...why wouldn't you do it? <---donated blood for the first time 2 weeks ago.

[xscore]

i personally dont like Bush cuz my mom told me soemthing like if ur an resident, and ur caught driving drunk, ur gonna get sent back to ur other country...i think thats not fair...

and he shouldve never decided to go to war...