Death Penalty, is it right or wrong? |
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| *NatiMarie* |
 May 12 2004, 09:15 PM
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What do you all think? Should there be a death penalty?
Why or why not? |
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May 13 2004, 09:16 PM
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 Quand j'étais jeune...  Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 13 2004, 9:04 PM) Here it is Romans 13 Whoa, I'll have to remember that one for future references. I suppose reading the Bible does have its rewards. |
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| *CrackedRearView* |
May 14 2004, 07:21 AM
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QUOTE Just a thought to put out there for you guys ... America is the only 'civilized' nation in the world that still has the death penalty. England, France, Japan, Spain, Italy etc ... they no longer have a death penalty. Just needed to make a comment on Rivendell's remark... Since when has the United States EVER followed in the footsteps of another country? That's the whole point of our existence...we broke away. We have never, and will never, follow the example of the rest of the "civilized" countries because we have a pretty damn civilized nation already. My two cents. |
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May 14 2004, 08:46 AM
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 Alisha Group: Member Posts: 2,341 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 9,880 |
QUOTE(dasturbd @ May 13 2004, 12:46 PM) yes that is a commandment, but were not talking religion and there is seperation of church and state ya but arent religon laws in some way part of state laws?? another commandment is u shall not steal so we have laws about stealing.... |
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May 14 2004, 09:39 AM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(shawty_redd @ May 14 2004, 8:46 AM) ya but arent religon laws in some way part of state laws?? another commandment is u shall not steal so we have laws about stealing.... Well, it could be religion or it could be an innate sense of morality. I don't necessarily have a religion, but I grew up knowing that stealing is wrong because my parents (who do not necessarily have a religion neither) taught me that. I'd say it's more morals than religion. |
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May 14 2004, 09:44 AM
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 rookie Group: Member Posts: 723 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 2,291 |
What happens to the feelings of the people that actually have to carry out the death penalty? (like Tom Hanks in Green Mile)
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May 14 2004, 09:59 AM
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 ~play guitar~ Group: Member Posts: 152 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 9,691 |
yes, i beleive if you kill someone then you deserve to be killed.
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May 14 2004, 10:05 AM
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rookie Group: Member Posts: 723 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 2,291 |
QUOTE(pandatotherescue @ May 14 2004, 2:59 PM) yes, i beleive if you kill someone then you deserve to be killed. Can people stop posting these "loose" opinions without backing them up? The forum is called "Debate" for a reason. It's not called "Opinions". |
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May 14 2004, 10:12 AM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(pandatotherescue @ May 14 2004, 9:59 AM) yes, i beleive if you kill someone then you deserve to be killed. Well, if you say it that way, what of the person who must carry out the death sentence, as TK had asked before? |
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May 14 2004, 02:42 PM
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 i'm too cool 4 school Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421 |
QUOTE(May 14 2004 @ 9:55 AM) governments become corrupt. like the time when Jesus came, and the government was against him because he "worked" on the Sabbath, the day of Rest. But he didn't work on the sabbath so they couldn't condem he of rthat, because if they did he would've been stoned, but the way he spoke his words hie never incriminated himself and he didn't work on the sabbath. God is saying you know what is wrong and what is right. If you kill osmeone that is wrong therefore you should be punished justly acorroding to the laws |
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| *Kathleen* |
May 14 2004, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE What happens to the feelings of the people that actually have to carry out the death penalty? (like Tom Hanks in Green Mile) You're going to have flaws in every system. There aren't that many people that are truly innocent that get the death penalty. Are you going to risk the chance of all of those true murderers not having the death penalty (and can later kill more people) just because of those few people? I sound evil saying this, and probably sound as if I don't care for other humans, but think about it - there are more deaths from criminals that get off easy compared to how many innocent people are killed by capital punishment. Besides, how many capital punishment cases are there, anyways? Not many. |
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May 14 2004, 02:56 PM
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i'm too cool 4 school Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421 |
^exactly most of the time they sit on death row for years and years not to mind wasting our money then they eventually die.
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May 14 2004, 04:12 PM
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 3,565, you n00bs ain't got nothin' on me. Group: Official Member Posts: 3,761 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,565 |
QUOTE(LiNHy POO @ May 13 2004, 9:12 PM) yess! there are sum crazy ppl in this world who juss go out and do insane things! like MURDER! KILLING LIFE! if its reasonable then the verdict should be DEATH! example: MURDER(if u kill... its karma) Taking one person's life doesn't mean that person's life should be taken away. Would you like to sink to that murderer's level? No one deserves to die. No matter what they do in life, because we don't live in en eye-for-eye society, do we? If someone gives you a penny, will you give a penny back? |
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May 14 2004, 04:23 PM
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i'm too cool 4 school Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421 |
The thing is I KNOW i would want that person dead if they killed one of my loved ones, no questions asked. Shoot, i may do it myself. I thank God for forgiveness
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| *Kathleen* |
May 14 2004, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE Taking one person's life doesn't mean that person's life should be taken away. Would you like to sink to that murderer's level? No one deserves to die. No matter what they do in life, because we don't live in en eye-for-eye society, do we? If someone gives you a penny, will you give a penny back? Read this: QUOTE Lets say person A rapes then murder a little girl, and I want him to die through the death penalty, but I believe so much in peace and not 'an eye for an eye' and let him be jailed. Now, years later, he's paroled and when he gets out he finds some other little girl to rape and kill.... it wouldn't be an eye for an eye any more.. it'll be an eye for two eyes... In this situation then, "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" cannot be applied, because two innocents have been killed. Uninspiredfae said this just last page. |
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May 14 2004, 04:59 PM
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 always confused Group: Member Posts: 163 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 15,228 |
same here, i had 2 write a report on it.......buh i dun think the death penalty is right, they should jus give the person life in prison
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May 14 2004, 05:02 PM
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i'm too cool 4 school Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421 |
prison is paradise to some people because they need someone telling them what to do in life. Also they get a free college educatuion, free meals, free cable, free work out places so when they get paroled they are stronger and can go kill some more people...
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| *Kathleen* |
May 14 2004, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE same here, i had 2 write a report on it.......buh i dun think the death penalty is right, they should jus give the person life in prison Please, if you're going to say something, support it with something. |
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| *NatiMarie* |
May 14 2004, 10:51 PM
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Well, I guess the death penalty sucks, but I mean, if you do the crime, do the time. I mean, although it sucks taking away another person's life...wait what am I talking about. Maybe they shouldn't be put to death. Just leave them in jail but somehow make them suffer. Well, not torture or anything (although, that wouldn't be such a bad idea..*cough* j/k). I don't know, I guess it's good to give them time to think about what they did. For example, that Jamie Bulger story where this toddler was killed by two young boys. Should they be given the death penalty too? Here's a link: http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=Jamie+Bul.../bulg-n08.shtml
a better link about the story is here: http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=Jamie+Bul...s/uk-bulg.shtml Another BETTER LInk (the other ones don't explain story, just opinion. Here's story:) http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=Jamie+Bul...s/uk-bulg.shtml |
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May 14 2004, 10:53 PM
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 kristin Group: Member Posts: 5,705 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,985 |
nobody deserves to die..but I mean even if it is a capital murder....I still think something like jail for life would be better than KILLING the person. I don't think ANYONE should be put to the chair unless they are POSITIVE that they PURPOSLY killed people and wern;t drunk or have metal or stress issues. But I hate thinking about "the chair" ..
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| *Kathleen* |
May 15 2004, 11:56 AM
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Natalie - but if you would torture them, Supreme Court wouldn't allow it because it would be cruel and unusual punishment...you won't know how far to go with torture, you know?
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May 15 2004, 12:16 PM
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i'm too cool 4 school Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421 |
With the Jamie case: They deserve the punishment fitting which is death. They knew what they were doing. Plus if they start at a young age killing people they are going to get older and kill more people. I'd rather stop it now Because even if they get a 25 year sentence they will still be able to be parolled or serve the entire term and get our of jail and possible kill someone else
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| *NatiMarie* |
May 15 2004, 01:19 PM
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Yeah I agree. Oh I know Kathleen. I was just joking about torture stuff because that's just cruel and it would just be doing the same thing that they did. Hehe, wow, I read my post and I sounded like such a cruel person but I'm really not.
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May 15 2004, 03:58 PM
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 Look its... Group: Official Member Posts: 5,817 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,767 |
i thihk its wrong no one has a right to klill anyone
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May 15 2004, 04:02 PM
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kristin Group: Member Posts: 5,705 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,985 |
^ but also think of someone, without mental or stress issues and murders 3 little kids. With no reason, no excuse....then they goto jail and attempt to kill everyone they have contact with, or osmehting like that.
WHat are you supposed to do? In general I think it's wrong,....but there are times when it is the only thing to do. A capital offense is the only time they use the death pentalty, but I just hope that they have complete evidence that they really did commit the crimes.... |
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May 15 2004, 06:07 PM
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3,565, you n00bs ain't got nothin' on me. Group: Official Member Posts: 3,761 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,565 |
Alright, what if someone was convicted wrongly? Death penalty was given? The guy dies. Poor guy.
All because of a stupid jury and an evil judge. and a evil law. |
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