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melface
post May 13 2004, 04:06 PM
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mellow.gif So I thought this was about abortion... I'm not saying that I do not support adoption, that's a whole 'nother situation.
 
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post May 13 2004, 04:18 PM
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Elba, see...I don't mean to offend anyone (your friends or whatnot), but that's the thing - people should be protecting themselves. Why isn't she on the pill, or any of those other things? Just because she chooses not to do that, she's killing an innocent fetus (as you like to say).

Mel, I know it's about abortion, but I'm saying that if you think because the child isn't loved enough by the mother, she should have an abortion, then there is a choice of adoption.
 
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post May 13 2004, 04:41 PM
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im against abortion..the babies that they want to be aborted instead of being killed, should be sent to a foster home or sumthing so that someone else would be able to take care of that baby
 
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post May 13 2004, 04:48 PM
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pro life.

a lot of people say that its the womans right to have an abortion.

but dont forget, the woman also has the right to think about whether or not to be sexually intimate with another man, and bare the responsibilities of the consequences if she does choose to be sexually intimate with that man.

no one told you to have sex. mellow.gif

aw, dont come to me with the rape issue. my baby is my baby. if i kill him/her, im gonna see him/her in heaven, probably with God along side him/her, and theyre gonna have their arms crossed looking at me angrily, and I'm just gonna be like this - ohmy.gif .
 
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post May 13 2004, 05:03 PM
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Also, with the rape issue, if abortion is legalized, think about how many teenagers are going to go running around getting adoptions left and right. Yes, there is that one percent of abortions that occur because of rape, but what about the ninety-nine percent?! Think about it. You sort of have to look at the big picture to see what I'm talking about.
 
WildGriffin
post May 13 2004, 05:07 PM
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this is prolly the most cynical thing i've ever said, but if you've ever been raped, there's a thing called the morning after pill. invest.
 
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post May 13 2004, 05:21 PM
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Heh...that's true, though, wildgriffin...
 
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post May 13 2004, 07:13 PM
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Also, with the rape issue, if abortion is legalized, think about how many teenagers are going to go running around getting adoptions left and right.

Where are you...cuz it is legal here in the U.S. (Roe vs Wade)

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this is prolly the most cynical thing i've ever said, but if you've ever been raped, there's a thing called the morning after pill. invest.

The morning after pill is still a form of abortion, if indeed it turned out you did in fact conceive
 
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post May 13 2004, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 13 2004, 5:07 PM)
this is prolly the most cynical thing i've ever said, but if you've ever been raped, there's a thing called the morning after pill. invest.

Hi, it's me again... no opposing arguments this time... but:

You're right about rape and pills! I didn't think about them until now!
 
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post May 13 2004, 07:25 PM
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Haha wow I must not have been thinking about that...but I meant in all states...wait...now I'm confused. _unsure.gif

Edit: Okay, the continuation of teenagers aborting babies left and right. _smile.gif
 
WildGriffin
post May 13 2004, 07:30 PM
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The morning after pill is still a form of abortion, if indeed it turned out you did in fact conceive


Don't the pills go after sperms though? Or do they kill the egg? either way, you arn't really aborting any babies.
 
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post May 13 2004, 07:34 PM
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All the morning after pill does is prevent the fertilized egg from implanting on the uterus... so for you who say "oh, it's a baby the secong the sperm and egg untie" i would imagine you would be against the morning after pill
 
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post May 13 2004, 07:55 PM
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Hmm...well, everyone should just go on the birth control pill, then! wacko.gif
 
WildGriffin
post May 13 2004, 08:01 PM
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don't guys have some form of a birth control pill? We can all take birth control together!
 
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post May 13 2004, 08:07 PM
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Haha nice. tongue.gif

Anywho, back to the topic; I suppose I'm against the morning after pill as well. mellow.gif Still, as I keep saying - it's only one percent! Keep it legalized everywhere, and more and more innocent lives will be slaughtered! Besides, there's a higher risk of people dying in abortion opposed to actual childbirth now.

Yeah...I don't know what I'm talking about. pinch.gif
 
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post May 13 2004, 09:31 PM
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But I heard that the morning after pill must be used 72 hours after intercourse... now if people are so lazy that they can't use a condom, or birth control pills, what makes you think they'll use the morning after pill?

EDIT::

Side effects of this pill:

nausea
vomiting
infertility
breast tenderness
ectopic pregnancy-can be life threatening
blood clot formation

With those sort of side effects, I'd wouldn't be using it.
 
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post May 14 2004, 04:26 PM
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Eh, I think they were saying that using the morning after pill would be the solution to the rape problems. Still, I don't like this morning after pill if it is still technically killing the child, as Elba said.
 
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post May 14 2004, 04:28 PM
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Eh, I think they were saying that using the morning after pill would be the solution to the rape problems. Still, I don't like this morning after pill if it is still technically killing the child, as Elba said.

Well, abortion can be viewed the same way since the baby was never really born. and...there's no proof it [the fetus] constitutes as a human being with rights. cynical ol' me.

how can you kill something that hasn't been born? Bam!
 
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post May 14 2004, 04:30 PM
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random though* i've never heard someone named Elba* any ways. I still see abortion wrong no matter what light it is put in. like they say best birth control is not having sex and if you don't like that idea wear a condom, shoot both of ya'll wear a condom so ya'll can be 199.98% sure you don't have a child
 
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post May 14 2004, 04:32 PM
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come to think of it, what makes the fetus "alive". it's just parasiting off the mother till it takes it's first breath. maybe the soul doesn't even enter the body till it leaves the mother. maybe there is no conscience before the first breath. maybe..maybe...maybe it's a subject that has no "right" answer.
 
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post May 14 2004, 04:41 PM
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i am pro-choice. if you want to make abortion illegal than you should make not have sex also illegal, because sperm and eggs are humans by your definition.

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Also, with the rape issue, if abortion is legalized, think about how many teenagers are going to go running around getting adoptions left and right. Yes, there is that one percent of abortions that occur because of rape, but what about the ninety-nine percent?! Think about it. You sort of have to look at the big picture to see what I'm talking about.


i dont think any teenagers would want to adopt children no matter what the abortion laws are.

also, it doesnt matter what percent are from rape, the point is that the pregnancies that result from rape should be allowed to be terminated. as should all others in my opinion.
 
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post May 14 2004, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(machinoman @ May 14 2004, 2:41 PM)
i am pro-choice. if you want to make abortion illegal than you should make not have sex also illegal, because sperm and eggs are humans by your definition.

lol, in that case, no more killing kittens !!
 
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post May 14 2004, 04:45 PM
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dont sperm eventually die anyways, even if you dont "kill kittens". And eggs die once a month. STOP ABORTING YOU CRAZY PEOPLE!
 
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post May 14 2004, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(machinoman @ May 14 2004, 4:41 PM)
i am pro-choice. if you want to make abortion illegal than you should make not have sex also illegal, because sperm and eggs are humans by your definition.

no, once the egg has different genes from the mother it is a human. and by having sex, you don't kill the sperm and egg.
 
machinoman
post May 14 2004, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 14 2004, 4:45 PM)
dont sperm eventually die anyways, even if you dont "kill kittens". And eggs die once a month. STOP ABORTING YOU CRAZY PEOPLE!

not if you have sex then one will survive. and eggs wouldnt die once a month if you keep pregnant, so the only way to not "kill babies" is if you are a girl have a baby every nine months and if your a guy go to the sperm doner every day. that is the only way to preserve these so called holy lives.
 

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