Creation or Evolution?, Which do you believe in? Options

[visualfusion]

I believe both theories of creation and evolution is extremely faulty because of the lack of evidence and the constant rebuttles between the two sides.

What do you think?

[WhiteChocolate]

sh!t! i meant evolution

lmao...then go edit!

[melface]

So some of you sit there and say "Oh evolution sounds so ridiculous, I believe in creation."... Well, that ALSO sounds ridiculous... The Big Bang Theory... sure it's just a theory.. and it doesn't mean it's true... and Charles Darwin... He didn't just make everything up. The man was intelligent. It's logical and scientific. And just because creation is stated in the Bible, it doesn't mean you have to believe it. The Bible is just history... you know.. HIS STORY. That could have all been made up, too. I think you kids that don't think for yourselves and go with what you grew up learning, really shouldn't. You should question things like these... Sure, they're both a bit stretched... but what are YOU going to believe? I'm just sick of people believing creation because it said in the Bible that that is what happen... and not believing evolution because it's 'ridiculous'... and other people not believing in creation because they could be an atheist. ... ehh, I don't know... but right now... I believe in evolution...

-sorry if I confused you, heh.

[casssy]

Yeah, honestly, is there even slight proof that "God" created us? There's already proof that we're closely related to monkeys, so...

yeah.. i dont think there is proof.. god could be some random guy made up for all we know =]..

[squ34ki]

u cant see gravity, yet u know its there, how? u feel it, if u drop an apple, u can see it dropping.
u cant see the wind, yet u can feel it
u cant see God, yet i feel him and his miracles work in me eeryday, like seriously, miracles are in the world today, just ever the most common things .

[*instantmusic*]

i believe in both. when God created man from the "dirt" or "sand", whatever bible version your reading, it couldve meant that a meteor hit the earth, and organisms from that meteor came on to this planet.

and as for the evolving from the monkey business and cave men whatnot... i can see it happening. first humans, adam and eve, mustve been some hairy people. and as we evolved we became less hairy, and more tuned into MTV fashion style.

just my opinion.

<- open chest, go head, hit me.

[NostalgicRockChi...]

Both. I believe in creation and then from there species evolved to adapt to their ever changing environment.

Which do you believe in?
Creation [ 27 ] [36.49%]
Evolution [ 21 ] [28.38%]
In between the two [ 14 ] [18.92%]
Both [ 6 ] [8.11%]
Neither [ 1 ] [1.35%]
Don't care [ 5 ] [6.76%]
Total Votes: 74

i vote evolution because there is scientific proof. and go ahead attack my argument.

[*Kathleen*]

i believe in both. when God created man from the "dirt" or "sand", whatever bible version your reading, it couldve meant that a meteor hit the earth, and organisms from that meteor came on to this planet.

See? But then you're just intepreting the Bible yourself. With evolution, you don't interpret - you observe the proof.

[stryker76]

u cant see gravity, yet u know its there, how? u feel it, if u drop an apple, u can see it dropping.
u cant see the wind, yet u can feel it
u cant see God, yet i feel him and his miracles work in me eeryday, like seriously, miracles are in the world today, just ever the most common things .

Hmmm no offence really but i have never felt "god" or seen a miracle......i watched my grandpa die for 13 years.....the only miracle he got was a peaceful death and i dont call that a miracle...i call it cruelity....would let an animal suffer for weeks let alone months and think its a miracle when he passes on...no...i dont see ne "God" i dont feel ne "God".....if there was one....maybe my grandfather would be alive....if there was one you think 9/11 would have happen....Yeah i felt "God" the when i cried at my friends funeral i felt the pain he caused....I felt the pain he caused at my grandpas funeral.....yeah i feel "God"

[oOyunieOo]

you know, this is really sad.... when we say miracles, we're not saying big things.... that fact that we are living and breathing today is a miracle. It's really sad how we only think of the negative things that make up our lives. Everything happens for a reason. and we all go through hard times, it is a part of life.

We don't blindly run into things--- the Bible may say it, sure. That's what we believe in. But, you can see so many things in the environment, the world that we live in..... and i'm not talking about the Bible, I'm talking about real life... check this out: I wrote this earlier--->

1. Did you know that orignally scientists claimed that the earth was about 100 million years old. Now they say that it is 65 billion years old so it will fit in their "explanation".

2. How can something come from nothing in the big bang? The big bang defies the laws of thermodynamics.

3. All of you people that have taken biology-----> evolutionists say that the simplerer life came first right? well, the simplest life there is, is a one-cell parasite. how could they survive initially without some other life?

4. All of the fossil finds that men have found of "missing links" have been largely made up. In fact, the one named Lucy's bones were found 2 miles apart with 200 feet depth separation. how could they belong to one organism.

5. The geologic time scale can not be found layer ofr layer in any part of the wolrd. The grand Canyon itself is missing about 150 milliong years.

6. There have been fossil finds of fish on Mt. Everest> explain that unless there wasn't a worldwide flood. Water dsplaces and finds its own level, so the only way for a fish to make it to the top of a mountian is for a wolrd-wide flood to occur.

and then I wrote this:

1. If the earth's magnetic field would have been so strong to end upto what it is today..... it would have fried all life. Or, if it was strong enough to still support life, there would be no magnetic field.

2. The Second Law of Thermodynamics can be stated in many different ways, e.g.:

that the entropy of the universe tends towards a maximum (in simple terms, entropy is a measure of disorder)

usable energy is running out

information tends to get scrambled

order tends towards disorder

a random jumble won’t organize itself

ORDER FROM DISORDER????? it is like a book factory exploding and creating a dictionary.

3. Spontaneous generation is now been accepted as impossible. Louis Pasteur conducted an expreriment using flasks that proved this statement. Only biogenesis is possible.

4. Ok, i see your point,
But----
'The various australopithecines (the group in which Lucy was said to belong) are, indeed, more different from both African apes and humans in most features than these latter are from each other. Part of the basis of this acceptance has been the fact that even opposing investigators have found these large differences as they too, used techniques and research designs that were less biased by prior notions as to what the fossils might have been'.

In layman's terms, this group is not part of the missing links to humans

+tell me why men have sculpted an entire missing link out of a single tooth?? or when they put together a man nd a monkey and called it a missing link?

5. THE Flood... how else could a canyon like that be made?? That also is an eplaination for the 150 years. There are other places that weathering and erosion should not effect. There should be at leat one example, but there is not.

6. Ok, so why have there HUGE amounts of drift-fish fossils (fish that float along with current) found all facing the exact same direction and at the exact same layer of the earth (indicating the same time). THat means a MASSIVE current.... also fish fossils of fish with food halfway have been found all over.... they say that fossils form over 1,000 years.... i don't think that a fish would take 1,000 years to halfway their. There had to be Sudden pressure.

come guys... here is some scientific fact!!! Read it and see how the world proves that there was a Creator ---> God!

you know, this is really sad.... when we say miracles, we're not saying big things.... that fact that we are living and breathing today is a miracle.  It's really sad how we only think of the negative things that make up our lives.  Everything happens for a reason.  and we all go through hard times, it is a part of life.

We don't blindly run into things--- the Bible may say it, sure.  That's what we believe in.  But, you can see so many things in the environment, the world that we live in..... and i'm not talking about the Bible, I'm talking about real life... check this out: I wrote this earlier--->

1. Did you know that orignally scientists claimed that the earth was about 100 million years old. Now they say that it is 65 billion years old so it will fit in their "explanation".

2. How can something come from nothing in the big bang? The big bang defies the laws of thermodynamics.

3. All of you people that have taken biology-----> evolutionists say that the simplerer life came first right? well, the simplest life there is, is a one-cell parasite. how could they survive initially without some other life?

4. All of the fossil finds that men have found of "missing links" have been largely made up. In fact, the one named Lucy's bones were found 2 miles apart with 200 feet depth separation. how could they belong to one organism.

5. The geologic time scale can not be found layer ofr layer in any part of the wolrd. The grand Canyon itself is missing about 150 milliong years.

6. There have been fossil finds of fish on Mt. Everest> explain that unless there wasn't a worldwide flood. Water dsplaces and finds its own level, so the only way for a fish to make it to the top of a mountian is for a wolrd-wide flood to occur.

and then I wrote this:

1. If the earth's magnetic field would have been so strong to end upto what it is today..... it would have fried all life. Or, if it was strong enough to still support life, there would be no magnetic field.

2. The Second Law of Thermodynamics can be stated in many different ways, e.g.:

that the entropy of the universe tends towards a maximum (in simple terms, entropy is a measure of disorder)

usable energy is running out

information tends to get scrambled

order tends towards disorder

a random jumble won’t organize itself

ORDER FROM DISORDER????? it is like a book factory exploding and creating a dictionary.

3. Spontaneous generation is now been accepted as impossible. Louis Pasteur conducted an expreriment using flasks that proved this statement. Only biogenesis is possible.

4. Ok, i see your point,
But----
'The various australopithecines (the group in which Lucy was said to belong) are, indeed, more different from both African apes and humans in most features than these latter are from each other. Part of the basis of this acceptance has been the fact that even opposing investigators have found these large differences as they too, used techniques and research designs that were less biased by prior notions as to what the fossils might have been'.

In layman's terms, this group is not part of the missing links to humans

+tell me why men have sculpted an entire missing link out of a single tooth?? or when they put together a man nd a monkey and called it a missing link?

5. THE Flood... how else could a canyon like that be made?? That also is an eplaination for the 150 years. There are other places that weathering and erosion should not effect. There should be at leat one example, but there is not.

6. Ok, so why have there HUGE amounts of drift-fish fossils (fish that float along with current) found all facing the exact same direction and at the exact same layer of the earth (indicating the same time). THat means a MASSIVE current.... also fish fossils of fish with food halfway have been found all over.... they say that fossils form over 1,000 years.... i don't think that a fish would take 1,000 years to halfway their. There had to be Sudden pressure.

come guys... here is some scientific fact!!! Read it and see how the world proves that there was a Creator ---> God!

number six in the first thing you siad is just plain stupid!! world wide flood no!! hello obviously it was once at the b-o-t-t-o-m of the o-c-e-a-n. duh!! why do you thin everest grows 1/4 of an inch per year stupido!!??

[*Kathleen*]

oOyunieOo - Scientists are saying the world is four-and-a-half billion years-old.

- Spontaneous generation is actually possible, but it is invisible to the naked eye, trust me.

-The simplest form of life is not a parasite, but a unicellular organism...not a parasite. Besides, that is the whole point to evolution - it evolves to survive (i.e. Darwin's theory of natural selection).

I was confused, though, because I read them both and saw both as sides for creation.

[waccoon]

Which do you believe in?
Creation [ 27 ] [36.49%]
Evolution [ 21 ] [28.38%]
In between the two [ 14 ] [18.92%]
Both [ 6 ] [8.11%]
Neither [ 1 ] [1.35%]
Don't care [ 5 ] [6.76%]
Total Votes: 74

i vote evolution because there is scientific proof. and go ahead attack my argument.

arent you jewish?

[stryker76]

Ummmm unicellular organisms are not the simplest...Viruses are the simplest...thus the Cell Theory is only a theory...but viruses do not apply

[*Kathleen*]

Viruses aren't considered a form of life...not an organism.

[oOyunieOo]

number six in the first thing you siad is just plain stupid!! world wide flood no!! hello obviously it was once at the b-o-t-t-o-m of the o-c-e-a-n. duh!! why do you thin everest grows 1/4 of an inch per year stupido!!??

Whoa there jewishbabeygirl87?! This is not a personal bashing dissing forum here! THIS IS A DISCUSSION! Gosh....

Anyway-
The bottom of the ocean contains SO MUCH PRESSURE that life down there would consist (if any) of those special fish that can manufacture there own light. If I am not mistaken, the fish that they found were not those, but normal fish.

Then, if you think that there was not a worldwide flood, check out # 6 of my second arguement. How do you know anyway that the mountain was at the bottom of the ocean?

6. Ok, so why have there HUGE amounts of drift-fish fossils (fish that float along with current) found all facing the exact same direction and at the exact same layer of the earth (indicating the same time). THat means a MASSIVE current.... also fish fossils of fish with food halfway have been found all over.... they say that fossils form over 1,000 years.... i don't think that a fish would take 1,000 years to halfway their. There had to be Sudden pressure. (aka a world-wide flood)

[WhiteChocolate]

I don't have anything to add besides for that I support what Yunie has been saying. I agree completely with ya Yunie! Keep it up!

[stryker76]

Viruses aren't considered a form of life...not an organism.

Sorry it is...im in Bio @ school i thought the same thing and they are by means living organisms...they contain genetic material and reproduce....virus are what hold up the Cell theory because they dont have many of the Cell organelles....although extremely difficult to understand viruses because the only ones we have seen are dead because they can only be viewed under an electron microscope......but maybe the text book was wrong...show me and ill believe you

[EmeraldKnight]

Sorry it is...im in Bio @ school i thought the same thing and they are by means living organisms...they contain genetic material and reproduce....virus are what hold up the Cell theory because they dont have many of the Cell organelles....although extremely difficult to understand viruses because the only ones we have seen are dead because they can only be viewed under an electron microscope......but maybe the text book was wrong...show me and ill believe you

Eh... I just took bio and my teacher specifically told me that they werent (even marked me wrong on the test ), because they cannot reproduce on their own, and thus are not considered living (at least by my bio textbook)

[oOyunieOo]

Eh... I just took bio and my teacher specifically told me that they werent (even marked me wrong on the test  ), because they cannot reproduce on their own, and thus are not considered living (at least by my bio textbook)

Yeah, they also can't move on their own. They can't do anything--- they aren't alive. That's why antibiotics can't "kill" them. Our cells adapt to them and the symptoms that we feel are our bodies immunity reaction to them. When the sickness is over, the virus is still in our cells, but we have adapted to it.

[strice]

yeah, viruses are not considered truly "living".

[stryker76]

ummm they can move....and they can reproduce...no not on there own but they can.....there are breeds of worms that cant reproduce on there own...but they are living....ne thing with genetic makeup is classified as a living organism....Viruses are classified un either Eubacteria or ArcheaBacteria in the Animal Kingdom....so if they are not living then how r they classified........

[oOyunieOo]

ummm they can move....and they can reproduce...no not on there own but they can.....there are breeds of worms that cant reproduce on there own...but they are living....ne thing with genetic makeup is classified as a living organism....Viruses are classified un either Eubacteria or ArcheaBacteria in the Animal Kingdom....so if they are not living then how r they classified........

they travel with the aid of (when oustide) air, and (when inside a host) blood. many things do not move on their own, like rocks. But say a mud slide occurs, the rock moves (falls) but we do not consider it iving.

Defn. of Organism- a living thing; a form of matter that carry out life processes

you know, that all organisms must perform all 6 functions:

1. Growth
2. Development
3. Heredity
4. Maitenence and Repair
5. Reproduction
6. Organization

[EmeraldKnight]

Viruses are classified un either Eubacteria or ArcheaBacteria in the Animal Kingdom....so if they are not living then how r they classified........

How does that make sense? bacteria are different from viruses, you know that right?

Defn. of Organism- a living thing; a form of matter that carry out life processes

you know, that all organisms must perform all 6 functions:

1. Growth
2. Development
3. Heredity
4. Maitenence and Repair
5. Reproduction
6. Organization

Nice job, thank you for clearing that up

[stryker76]

Jeez u people its not registering is it.....Viruses are living because they reproduce and contain DNA.....yes i kno it doesnt make sence....but they are...and because they only carry out reproduction is the only reason they are living...that is y the CELL THOERY IS ONLY A THOERY AND NOT A LAW....they are an exception....like a platipus being a mammal...only because has fur and is warm blooded...its an exception....and for all you that say that my bacteria comment made no sence if you paid attention in Bio...then you would kno that those classes of bacteria have no Nucleus....there are exceptions in the world...oh and people read the publish year of your text books before referring to them...mine was just published last summer....and as for knoledge on viruses...its slim because they where only discovered in the 60's when electron microscope was invented...so the only virus scientist have seen is a dead one