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| *mzkandi* |
 Nov 6 2005, 07:52 PM
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^ I was referring to Michael's comment separetely from my first comment.
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Nov 6 2005, 07:55 PM
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 Another ditch in the road... you keep moving  Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
yes...?
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Nov 6 2005, 07:56 PM
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Are we voting on something?
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Nov 6 2005, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(mzkandi @ Nov 6 2005, 7:56 PM) Are we voting on something?  I don't know, but whatever it is, I'm opposed! |
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Nov 6 2005, 07:57 PM
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Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
no. i think this turned into a complicated tangle involving the word joke.
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Nov 6 2005, 08:01 PM
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 It eats you, starting with your bottom. Group: Member Posts: 1,999 Joined: Jun 2005 Member No: 160,674 |
Yeah...I'm lost, really.
BACK TO THE TOPIC>>> |
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Nov 8 2005, 09:38 PM
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 i've never wanted anything rationale. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 8,449 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 19,045 |
So this topic is about if we should suspend accounts when IP suspension/bans are in place?
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Nov 8 2005, 09:48 PM
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okay, here's what's about.
people who have been ip banned are able to use their accounts on different computers meaning they could just go to a friends house everyday or use a different comp in their house and still be allowed to post. they are ip banned for a reason...so theyre not here, but ip banning doesnt seem to suspend their account. so i proposed their account be suspended to since they dont seem to be wanted for doing something wrong. |
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Nov 11 2005, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(incoherent @ Nov 8 2005, 6:48 PM) okay, here's what's about. people who have been ip banned are able to use their accounts on different computers meaning they could just go to a friends house everyday or use a different comp in their house and still be allowed to post. they are ip banned for a reason...so theyre not here, but ip banning doesnt seem to suspend their account. so i proposed their account be suspended to since they dont seem to be wanted for doing something wrong. Yep. I think that's the only way to get rid of them. We cannot detect everything that well. |
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Nov 12 2005, 12:57 PM
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hmm. heres an idea that came out of the drama
if a banned or suspended member creates a new account to post (eg steven), why SHOULDNT a mod just delete their posts? i mean, obviously not hunt them down, but as and where they are seen. the posts shouldnt be there anyway. so why leave them there? |
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Nov 12 2005, 01:05 PM
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Most mods arent willing to delete post unless in extreme cases, member bashing, excessive cursing, etc. We dont have time to follow a member around and delete every last one of their posts.
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Nov 12 2005, 01:07 PM
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which i didnt suggest you should do, and so isnt relevant as a response exactly... they wont delete posts unless rules are being broken. which is the case when a member creates a new account to circumvent a suspension |
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Nov 12 2005, 01:09 PM
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^ No need to be snappy James, that how I am interepted what you wrote, so calm down.
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Nov 12 2005, 01:09 PM
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I don't think that's what he was getting at. More that they an be deleted, since they're not legal anyway. If you happen to see a post that needs to be deleted for any reason, it's really not that hard to delete it
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Nov 12 2005, 01:10 PM
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Then ban/suspend the newly created account as well.......
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Nov 12 2005, 01:11 PM
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which steven has proven is ineffective and a waste of authority and as i specifically SAID that you would hunt down their posts, i assumed it wouldnt be interpretted as exactly the opposite |
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Nov 12 2005, 01:12 PM
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^Oh ummm gee, my bad.....
Well we can only do so much, if a member wants to be persistent in making new accounts, mods will have to persistent in suspending them, I suppose. |
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Nov 12 2005, 01:14 PM
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Well, I did suspend basick again. But look what that accomplished. He's still posting, causing trouble, and it caused me to do things I wouldn't normally do to avoid his drama (which completely and totally backfired).
Well, so, can we be persistant in suspending them? I'd be more than happy to, but everyone else seemed a bit wishy-washy and I didn't want to do anything that others would object to, yet everytime I tried to bring it up, no one really went for it and instsited second chances were deserved. I know my judgement isn't the most reliable right now, but honestly, it's pretty good. I was right all along on the whole Jorge affair, no? And everything that happens only shows me that I'm right on this one too. |
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Nov 12 2005, 01:16 PM
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Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
but, if suspending is proven to be ineffective against removing them from the board, why shouldnt this measure be introduced as well?
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Nov 12 2005, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(tweeak @ Nov 12 2005, 2:14 PM) Well, I did suspend basick again. But look what that accomplished. He's still posting, causing trouble, and it caused me to do things I wouldn't normally do to avoid his drama (which completely and totally backfired). Well, so, can we be persistant in suspending them? I'd be more than happy to, but everyone else seemed a bit wishy-washy and I didn't want to do anything that others would object to, yet everytime I tried to bring it up, no one really went for it and instsited second chances were deserved. I know my judgement isn't the most reliable right now, but honestly, it's pretty good. I was right all along on the whole Jorge affair, no? And everything that happens only shows me that I'm right on this one too. Who is everyone, Nicki? The admins? The mods? . If it really bother you that much you could have made a seperate thread (backstage) on the matter so we all could have given you feedback on the matter. If I was in your situation, that would have been the first thing I would have done. I mean how can work as a team and come to an agreement on something when someone wont bring forth the issue for serious dicussion amongst all of us. And I believe if we (all the mods) had known all the of the situation going on with Steven before "that drama" started we would have known how to deal with him and the situation before it esculated. But we had no dicussion on it until the drama exploded and by then the damage had been done. |
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Nov 12 2005, 01:28 PM
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Actually, that's where my being a procrastinator comes in. I meant to start a topic,, I just never knew how to address it. However, there were multiple mini Steven discussions backstage, and the outcome of all of them was basically that he deserves a second chance and when I disagreed, I was being too judgemental.
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Nov 12 2005, 01:28 PM
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 dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
why can't you IP ban his proxy?
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Nov 12 2005, 01:30 PM
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kiera, i know for a fact (back in my snooping days, but lets move on from that swiftly) that that issue HAS been addressed backstage before. before you were modded... it didnt help.
and justin, please tell them how so they can just get rid of him |
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Nov 12 2005, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(racoons > you @ Nov 12 2005, 2:30 PM) kiera, i know for a fact (back in my snooping days, but lets move on from that swiftly) that that issue HAS been addressed backstage before. before you were modded... it didnt help. I never said the issue hasnt been addressed. But recently, well before "that drama", the problem with Steven wasnt seriously dicussed...just casually brought up and dismissed. |
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Nov 12 2005, 01:37 PM
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Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
well then, the mods should have resolved it the first time. if it has been discussed since you became a mod as well, then thats twice it has just been left to fade.
sometimes, just acting is more effective than wasting tim ein a discussion which hostory suggests wont lead to a resolution |
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