what to do when mods commit offenses. Options

[pshaa.shauna]

^ Well that's just plain stupid. Spam should be if it's useless and contribute to your post count.

I meant new board as in another section, like forum games. I really have no lcue what it's called.

[racoons > you]

i know what you meant, but there is no way to make a board which doesnt affect ppd, so by past reasoning, mods wont accept that

[pshaa.shauna]

But forum games doesnt affect post count, I've checked!

There is a list of sections that don't effect you post count.

[*incoherent*]

someone said it effected ppd, but i dont think it does anything to mine.

this is turning into nothing. post counts and ppd has nothing to do with what was generally set out to do in this topic. i think we either need to close it, or come of with punishments for mods that abuse rules.

[racoons > you]

it doesnt affect POST COUNT

it does affect POST PER DAY

[pshaa.shauna]

Well how on earth does that work? That's actually kinda dumb.

Well here, if you are conversing with someone, I don't think you should be punished (to a degree), but if you can tell it's spam to raise ppd or w/e, then be punished. (there is a difference)

[*tweeak*]

^I agree

No, that's what he's saying- it doesn't affect post count, but PPDs. Because apparently that matters to people. I frankly don't see the issue with "spamming" (conversing) in forum games- at least you're being productive communally. What does something like the counting thread accomplish? Damn lot of nothing, I say. Most forum games are actually much worse spam than our conversations there would be. And without the visitor tracker now, I can't really imagine official membership being all that attractive (oh, more people posted)

[*incoherent*]

well on my forum, if someone joins the first day and posts 30 times in a forum that doesnt count for post counts, their ppd still goes up.

my forum is and invisionfree forum, much like what jusun uses, but he pays for his.

[*tweeak*]

But honestly, not too many people have conversations for the sake of raising their post count

[*incoherent*]

thats true. i think this has accomplished nothing and the original topic starter has not come back to help us in what they specifically wanted.

[pshaa.shauna]

^ x2 Really. Most people who actually care about their post count don't actually have someone to converse with, because they are new.

[racoons > you]

i dont think anyone actually does, even including steven's little coven...

i think we can leave that idea out when debating the validity of the matter

[*incoherent*]

^x2
what shes saying, is people that usually have convos dont care about their post count and how high it is. i know i dont really care about mine, i just post when i can.

[*tweeak*]

Steven is a spiteful spammer. Period.

Well, where did she really intend for this topic to go? For everyone to hop blindly onto the anti-tyrannical mod bandwagon? The we're doing a fine job. There is no mass chaos. We do our duties. So if at the end of the day, we want to make our responsibilities worth while, so what? Are you going to fire mangers for using the perks of their job for their personal benefit? I would think not. We're human. We want to have fun. If I want to have people on my ass about every single thing I say or do, I'll f**king go to school, thanks

[*incoherent*]

alright, so well just end this now. a mod cannot personally attack someone for a wrong doing that they have recently committed and all rules for mods still apply. there is no reason to change them because then no one will apply because they will be too afraid the do something wrong.

topic closed

[*mzkandi*]

I don't mean to call you out specifically, but since you brought it up, I'm going to use your example since it is a fairly good example. (I hope you understand where I'm coming from.)

To be honest, I think this is an example of exactly what I am talking about when I say that all members, regardless of experience or position on cB, need to be held to a higher standard. Again, I don't mean to call you out specifically, but sometimes you and tweeak do get into spam-like conversations in threads that could be better handled over IM or PM's. You might not see it as a distraction, but others do. However, you're very seldomly called on it because you have been around a lot and tweeak is a mod; however, you know very well that if a member who had been here for, say, a month or so, or only had maybe fifty posts, did the same thing, there'd be a dozen people, undoubtedly some of them mods, who would instantly respond with "Don't spam."

It is the duty of the people with more posts counts and more experience on cB to set an example for new members. This definitely includes mods. Mods should hold themselves to a higher standard. You should never see a mod going off on a long personal conversation in a thread that has little or nothing to do with the topic at hand. Mods, and experienced members, should try their best to set an example.

While that is a good argument for holding mods to a higher standard and punishing them more severely, they are also just normal people after all. They want to have fun, too. So I can understand not wanting to hold mods to tougher standards, which is why I take the position that they should be held to the same standards as a normal member, but should not be "let off the hook" for offenses that other members would get warned for. Note that this means that other mods do need to take an active role in policing themselves, and have the nerves to stand up to other mods.

Furthermore, allowing relaxed rules for long-term members and mods creates a sort of "clique" on cB that makes it seem as though people are more important than others merely because they have been around here longer. People talk about the "drama" on cB all the time--well, if you want to see the cause, just look at the various cliques that have popped up around here in an effort to make some people seem more important or otherwise privileged than other members. That is something we most certainly do not need and do not want to encourage. Therefore, I think that the same standards that apply to regular members must apply to mods and admins--no more, no less.

(And please, I hope that no one gets the feeling I am specifically picking on certain members. I am merely using an example that has been brought up--I certainly do not hate or even dislike anyone I used in my example. I'm also not saying that everything I said in my post strictly applies to those I mentioned--while I used an example, mostly I'm speaking in a broad sense. I hope no one takes my post in an offensive manner because it was not meant to be delivered in the spirit of a personal attack.)

Ok thats all. bye

Topic Reclosed.

[racoons > you]

Well, where did she really intend for this topic to go? For everyone to hop blindly onto the anti-tyrannical mod bandwagon? The we're doing a fine job. There is no mass chaos. We do our duties. So if at the end of the day, we want to make our responsibilities worth while, so what? Are you going to fire mangers for using the perks of their job for their personal benefit? I would think not. We're human. We want to have fun. If I want to have people on my ass about every single thing I say or do, I'll f**king go to school, thanks

i give that my so there.

topic reclosed

[*mzkandi*]

^ So there, what?

[racoons > you]

just... so there.

meaning i disagree.

and i have a deep character flaw meaning i have an obsessive need to have the last word

*shrug*

[*not_your_average*]

I'm sorry if you feel that way, Nicki. I never intended to attack you, I'm just trying to contribute to the discussion. =[ :flower: My apologies if this topic came across that way.

[racoons > you]

i promise, neither nicki or i take offense

we just feel we can defend ourselves

[*incoherent*]

okay, now that this is reopened, not_your_average, can you please try to point us in the direction in which you were going with your post since you never came back.

[racoons > you]

than it has changed since we had that orgy (long story) in forum games and sammi closed the thread saying that it increased ppd.

i've heard it numerous other times as well.. i apologise if it is incorrect, though

[*mona lisa*]

I have in fact seen members' profile pages and they had 0 posts but an actual PPD.

[*disco infiltrator*]

I thought it did. People said it did...I had no reason not to believe....