Jesus... gay?? Options

[pnays_angel]

OF COURSE HE'S NOT!!!!!!

[jEllyBeaNs]

People, I have read the entire bible twice.  This includes the old testemant and and new testemant.  This includes about 800 pages on Christianity/Judaism.  I have studied it a lot!  I believe the bible, competly therefore I look at the bible as complete truth.  Knowing this, I do not look at the bible with my own views, but I open up my heart to the knowledge written in it.

After doing all of this, I can tell you that Jesus was 100% not gay.  As a matter of fact, Jesus did speak about homosexuality and sin when he condemned "sexual imorality".  He also condemned lust, which is a major factor in homosexuality.  But, aside from what homosexuality is....The bible in general is 100% against homosexuality. 

The reason Jesus did not speak openly against every group of people who were going against the bible was because Jesus himself said, "I came into the world not to judge it but to save it".  Jesus knew that judgement was comming, his purpose was to warn human nature of this, and save them.  If you look at what Jesus says, he also dosn't speak much about robbers and murderes and rapist and all the other crimes.....that wasn't his purpose, to judge and condem them. 

God, destroyed Sodom and Gommorrah because of its immorality.  People would actually force you to have sex with them (homosexual sex) in the city.  And because of this God destroyed those two cities.  Now this is one of the most evident proofs that in general God is against homosexuality.  Jesus is Gods son, who came into the earth to spread the "good news", to fulfill his fathers (God's) word.  Being one with God, Jesus could not have been gay, hence unholy and unrightouse in front of God. 

As for mary madeline and others, Jesus expelled 7 demons from her!  Do you know how happy she must have been to be set free from that bondage?  How could you say "they must have had something"......if ur best friend saved you from death, and after that you would both hang out forever...would that mean that you "like her" or would that mean that you actually loved your friend for his deed, and were willing to be at his side always....True love has nothing to do with sex, when you love someone you give to that person.  Mary was willing to give her life to service for Jesus.  She loved him with a different love than what we usually think of.

wow! i am really amazed! i kno jesus is NOT gay, but you showed me more evidence of it! i appreciate it a lot! this also shows me that i need to read the Bible a lil bit more, cuz some of the stuff you were talking about, i didn't even know about.
thanx

[sovietski]

no problem, glad my reading can be used to help others.

[*swtcherriipie*]

i think so.

[sikdragon]

Jesus claimed to be God. Sin is defined as the absence of God. God cannot be not God. If he lied and really wasn't God, he was the most evil man to ever have lived and the fact that he's gay has no bearing on the mass amount of people who have died in his name.

[sadolakced acid]

^

no, it means he's the greatest human to live if he was able to trick tones of people into slaughtering other people in his name.

[sikdragon]

yes, just like there are two sides to hitler. Greatest military strategist/leader of a nation and the most hated murderer of his time.

[sadolakced acid]

same can be said for bush. well, except for that briliant mind part.

[fameONE]

same can be said for bush.  well, except for that briliant mind part.

**cue drums and laughter**

[sikdragon]

Hitler cannot be compared to Bush in any aspect. Apples and Oranges.

[*mipadi*]

Hitler cannot be compared to Bush in any aspect. Apples and Oranges.

Godwin's law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.

[murderous_though...]

Oh my God....(no pun intended) I dont mean to sound rude here, but...How can you even begin to think that? Jesus didnt "go with girls" because ANY sexual act outside of marriage is against God...Jesus is God's son, sent to spread His Father's word, why would he do something against it? The disciples were all men because frankly, women were crapped on back then. Men were the important ones, the strong, intelligent, all that other stuff that pisses feminists off stuff, and men did all the preaching(because it was ungodly for a woman to instruct men in a church). And also he chose 12 men because the 12 tribes of Israel were all headed by males, and obviously thats where the Jews come from. Jesus was abstinant, and I don't recall the definition of abstinant being gay. Jesus was human, he was made in the image of Man, and therefore he faced the same challenges and temptations all humans face...an example of that would be when he was in the desert for 40 days with no food, and Satan came, remember that? I'll end this with a question...How many people follow somebody who is a hypocrite?

[vash1530]

WOW GUys

this isn't even a discussion
Jesus can't be gay cuz HE NEVER EXISTED

DUMMIES

[*mipadi*]

WOW GUys

this isn't even a discussion
Jesus can't be gay cuz HE NEVER EXISTED

DUMMIES

Well...there is pretty strong evidence to suggest he at least existed; whether or not he is divine would be the issue.

Besides, what is existence except a belief that one existed? Since enough people believe in Jesus, one way or another, the point of whether the man actually existed is moot--he exists because so many people belief he exists.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Oh my God....(no pun intended) I dont mean to sound rude here, but...How can you even begin to think that? Jesus didnt "go with girls" because ANY sexual act outside of marriage is against God...Jesus is God's son, sent to spread His Father's word, why would he do something against it?  The disciples were all men because frankly, women were crapped on back then.  Men were the important ones, the strong, intelligent, all that other stuff that pisses feminists off stuff, and men did all the preaching(because it was ungodly for a woman to instruct men in a church). And also he chose 12 men because the 12 tribes of Israel were all headed by males, and obviously thats where the Jews come from.  Jesus was abstinant, and I don't recall the definition of abstinant being gay.  Jesus was human, he was made in the image of Man, and therefore he faced the same challenges and temptations all humans face...an example of that would be when he was in the desert for 40 days with no food, and Satan came, remember that? I'll end this with a question...How many people follow somebody who is a hypocrite?

There's a lot of hypocritical things throughout the entire Bible. If you want an example...

Noah's ark was supposedly 2 football fields long. If the ark carried every kind of animal in existence, how in the world did they all fit? If you do the math, it doesn't work.

So there's just one of the many, yet people still follow Christianity. Soo..I don't think using "people wouldn't follow a hypocrite" as a reason makes it any less true.

[zepfel]

i never thought the bible was supposed to be taken literally, by any means.

it's more of an anthology of short stories, all of a similar message (be nice).




and jesus didn't have any sexual preference, that's kind of the point.

[vash1530]

Well...there is pretty strong evidence to suggest he at least existed; whether or not he is divine would be the issue.

Besides, what is existence except a belief that one existed? Since enough people believe in Jesus, one way or another, the point of whether the man actually existed is moot--he exists because so many people belief he exists.

ahh well to tell you the truth, there is actually no documentation by historians in the place and time of when jesus' life supposedly occured, that says that he was alive. The only actual recoreded record of jesus is...... guesswhat....The bible!!
oh and what ur saying about existence could go 4 santa as well....[he exists because so many people belief he exists.]

[*mipadi*]

ahh well to tell you the truth, there is actually no documentation by historians in the place and time of when jesus' life supposedly occured, that says that he was alive. The only actual recoreded record of jesus is...... guesswhat....The bible!!
oh and what ur saying about existence could go 4 santa as well....[he exists because so many people belief he exists.]

No documentation, you say? There is not a lot, but some, documentation on a man known as Jesus. Whether or not he was divine is arguable, certainly, but it's almost definite that he existed.

Furthermore, Santa isn't the same thing. Aside from young children, very few people honestly believe in Santa. People may pretend to believe for fun, but very few people would form a religion around the worship of Santa--and that is the reason why Jesus' existence is, in essence, a moot point. People not only believe in Jesus, but worship him, and follow his purported teachings. It really doesn't matter whether he existed or not, because his legacy has become so influential that he may've well have existed, even if he didn't (which is unlikely).

[vash1530]

if you could cite some documets supportig jesus existing, then i lose this argument becuz id be happy to give you some references to books by historias who promptly state that there is no documents refrencing jesus christ
basically, christianity was, in my opinion(which is supported somewhat by facts), created by power seekers uaing Zoasterism as a guideline.
Don't believe me ?
Look it up.

[vash1530]

i never thought the bible was supposed to be taken literally, by any means.

by saying this ur side stepping any direct questions at the bibles faults. biblic historias do the exact same thig. pretty sad.

[*mipadi*]

if you could cite some documets supportig jesus existing, then i lose this argument becuz id be happy to give you some references to books by historias who promptly state that there is no documents refrencing jesus christ
basically, christianity was, in my opinion(which is supported somewhat by facts), created by power seekers uaing Zoasterism as a guideline.
Don't believe me ?
Look it up.

Actually, I did provide a link to sources which note that Jesus did exist, but to spell it out:

http://www.bede.org.uk/price1.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus#endnote...xistenceOfJesus

I hate to sound snooty, but since you brought it on--I do believe that you have lost this argument.

[MeLoNiSyUmMy]

i dont beleive in god, miracles, heaven, or hell.

[vash1530]

Actually, I did provide a link to sources which note that Jesus did exist, but to spell it out:

http://www.bede.org.uk/price1.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus#endnote...xistenceOfJesus

I hate to sound snooty, but since you brought it on--I do believe that you have lost this argument.

[/quote]

hahaha really u won well let me throw this in your face... The first page's name is scholarly OPINIONS of Jesus
the 2nd says that," To what degree the gospels are reliable as historical documents is disputed, and all other known sources, of which there are few, provide only limited, second-hand information. Nevertheless, the majority of scholars agree that Jesus did, at least, exist."THis is also these people's opinions seeing as the actual historical evidence is obviouly limited to second hand info
the 3rd link is totally bogus. so please before u announce ur victory next time, make sure you won.

[vash1530]

i dont beleive in god, miracles, heaven, or hell.

at leat some ppl aren'thave't been fckin brainwashed.

[*mipadi*]

hahaha really u won well let me throw this in your face...  The first page's name is scholarly OPINIONS of Jesus
the 2nd says that," To what degree the gospels are reliable as historical documents is disputed, and all other known sources, of which there are few, provide only limited, second-hand information. Nevertheless, the majority of scholars agree that Jesus did, at least, exist."THis is also these people's opinions seeing as the actual historical evidence is obviouly limited to second hand info
the 3rd link is totally bogus. so please before u announce ur victory next time, make sure you won.

Uh...all of them provide evidence that Jesus, as a man, did exist. Even the quote you extrapolated: "To what degree the gospels are reliable as historical documents is disputed, and all other known sources, of which there are few, provide only limited, second-hand information. Nevertheless, the majority of scholars agree that Jesus did, at least, exist." So yes, most scholars do believe he existed. To what capacity is the issue, but if you follow the links, these are not opinions--they are supported by historical documentation.