Abortion Options

[tkproduce]

Different places in the world have different laws on abortion. Some states allow abortion up to a certain age of the foetus, while others don't allow it at all.

So what do you think? Are you in favor of it or against it? When does the baby, which starts off as a ball consisting only of a few cells inside the womb, actually start to count as a human being? Please give some explanation behind your point of view, putting into consideration things such as unwanted pregnancies.

[AmesBond]

People die during aboritons

That's a risk they choose to take.

[*Kathleen*]

Yes, Elba, but why would you take it out on the baby whose life is someone else when it's not their fault? I know you're saying that you might not be finanically stable or whatnot, but there is adoption agencies, you know. Yes, you'll probably say that the kid might grow up without someone adopting him, but still...at least...he's living.

Michelle - if the child comes out to be a terrorist/murderer all that you said above, there are ways to contain him and make him stop doing that. There are always people like that. There are not a lot of people that can come up with the cure to AIDS. Think about it.

[onenonly101]

Having an abortion is not "fixing" it. Have you ever known someone who has had an abortion. I have. She is depressed because of the fact she had an abortion. She actaully does miss her child or feuts as some say. The after affects of abortion is so inement and dangerous that why would you do it. Sure there are the surface reasons, my parents would kill, me not ready...but like i said before if someone who did not make the mistake of having sex without protection and was raped can keep their child there is no reason someone who had sex on their own will can't keep the child

grow up to be the next serial killer/terrorist leader/child molestor/kidnapper

they sure could but that is too much could and if. And if they do that is not your fault. They have free will abd they made that choice

[*AngelicEyz00*]

Yes, I have known plenty of people who have had abortions. My brothers girlfriend has had a couple, and this one woman I knew had one too. They've made mistakes, and they shouldn't have the burden of going through an unwanted pregnancy... I have too many neices and nephews as it is, and if abortion is something that's going to help contain that number then so be it

Yeah, some women are gonna be depressed and all, but I think that if you're not ready, then you shouldn't be forced to keep it. And, if i were to be forced to keep it, i certainly WOULD NOT put it up for adoption, in that case, i'd rather keep it...

I understand that it is killing a life and all that stuff, but... I believe the woman has a right to do what she thinks is best for her, it may be selfish, but ultimately it is her decision

[onenonly101]

I belive it is her decision because I do belive we have the "right" to choose someones life, but then again i don't belive we have rights, we have privledges

[lilb]

I am for abortion. It is the decision of the pregnant woman whether she wants to continue along with the pregnancy or whether she wants to terminate it.

No matter how the woman got pregnant, whether she was sleeping around, or got pregnant because she didn't use protection, or got raped or whatever, she has a right to do what she wants to do... Everyone makes mistakes, and yes... if you get pregnant, and you really don't wanna go through with it, then obviously you've made a mistake, and if there's a way to "fix" it, in this case, get an abortion, then go for it!

Here in California, if you're a minor, you don't even need permission from your parents to have an abortion. You DO need to notify them, but you don't need to have their permission.

Personally, if i would have gotten pregnant, and of course I wasn't ready, I would have found a way to get an abortion.... Reasons for wanting one... too young, not financially stable, need an education first, my parents would kill me if they knew i was pregnant, etc, etc.....

So for those same reasons, you're probably wondering, "If those are you're excuses, then you're not ready for some consequences of having sex, so you shouldn't even be having sex, right?" Wrong. We're human, and part of being human is making mistakes. (ok, i think i've been using the word "mistakes" too much, but bare with me) Also, we're human, and we like sex. Humans and dolphins are the only species that have sex for pleasure, other species do it for reproduction,so yeah... We can't help it if we get the urge to have sex once in a while, and we can't help it if we make the mistakes of not taking the proper precautions to avoid an unwanted pregnancy.... but abortion is an option which is availble, and since it is availible, then go for it if you need to.

Now, There is an extent to how much I support this, if you're constantly using abortion as your birth control method, then i think that's where i'd draw the line. If you have an abortion after on, two, or maybe even three mistakes, then I guess that's ok...

I don't think abortion is ever gonna be outlawed here, and if it ever is, then I would be pretty upset....

I'm not saying you are, but I am saying "that" is selfish. Look at Martin luther king, what would happen if his mother had an abortion, blacks would still be discriminated and that would be horrible cuz i am in love with one, what would happen if all of the improtant history makers that made us free, that gave women rights, that destroyed racism and things that tore nations apart were killed, because a mother a woman made a mistake and messed up and didnt want to pay the price, it is selfish and immature, its like a little kid who does something their not suppose to and throws a fit when they have to be punished, except this is much bigger, this is a childs life, a humans life.

[AmesBond]

^ That is certainly not true, if not Martin Luther King, Jr., then surely someone else would've fought for civil rights. He did not single handedly wipeout discrimination because that still exists today.

[*Kathleen*]

Yes, but there wouldn't have been a Martin Luther King Jr. in the first place. Same thing with all the great leaders we look back on - many of them did do things single-handedly.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

Yes, but we will never know what will happen, so why are we gonna start with the "what if"s?

[*Kathleen*]

We do know that it is life no matter what. That's not a "what if".

[lilb]

I think it is wrong that ppl think that they have the right to take a human life and destroy it, to take a living creature and kill it.

[*CrackedRearView*]

But what about in a situation of rape or insest?

Regarding this comment, and since I haven't seen any hard proof or evidencial material to substantiate any of your claims yet...

According to Kansas City Star (this was an editorial on the February 13th edition of my hometown's paper):

"Of all abortions committed from Jan. 1990 (when clinics began logging causes of abortions) to Dec. 2003:

86% Unwanted pregnancy (female choice)
12% Health risks (to mother)
1% Fatal health risks/deformalities (child)
1% Rape cases"

Read the print in bold.

I can't remember, I think some 10,000+ abortions have happened in that time period.

Allow the whopping 14% of mothers with legitimate abortion reasons to have them.
Arrest/fine the 86% that needlessly murder children every week.

[*Kathleen*]

Yes, that's what I think I said before. Still, either way, even if it is rape or incest, the child deserves to live - it's not its fault.

[kirbymuixo]

well...it depends cuz there are many different viewpoints out there...many people are pro-choice and prefer that women should be given a choice as to whether they want an abortion are not. other people are pro-life, meaning that they regard the fetus as a potential human and that it is morally wrong to kill lives. for me, i believe that women should be given a choice to decide for themselves what they want to do because of the freedom of choice in America. but the other side of me contradicts this belief cuz i also do believe it is wrong to have an abortion because it is considered murder, both in the moral and biblical sense. because im a christian, i believe that having an abortion would be killing a life as also stated in the Bible, and therefore, i am against it...

however, if someone was raped, i think it would be justifiable since the victim did not have a choice of whether they wanted to be pregnant or not, wheraes, if a woman had sex just for the fun of it and became pregnant, it would be a different story...so it all depends...

but everyone deserves to live...

[*Kathleen*]

Okay, so if you're pro-choice, the baby doesn't have a say in this. You know if it could talk, it would pick life...why not? Everyone deserves to live, and everyone should.

[Spirited Away]

I'm pro choice only because there's a danger in passing a law that will ban abortion.

Young woman, who were raped or desperate enough to kill the fetus, will find ways to have an abortion. They could die in an ally trying to do it themselves.

[*Kathleen*]

That's true, but there's a flaw to every system. More people are dying with abortions.

[WhiteChocolate]

Abortion is one of the issues that enrages me the most. These are babies that you kill! I hate it that people call the baby a "Fetus" which is some stupid term that a doctor somewhere made up to desensitize us to the fact that these are human BEINGS!

*sighs*

The rape/incest argument is invalid. Like Kathleen said...its only 1%, and even so...How can you justify killing the baby? It's not the baby's fault in the least bit that his mother was raped. If it's too painful emotionally for the mother to keep the baby, then she can adopt the baby out.

There are so many simple solutions, that absolve the "need" for killing these babies. I still don't understand how these people can be so callused...

I know I just repeated all of the arguments that have been cited so far, but I don't care.

[sweetlyz]

i dunno .. i`m on both sides. i`m mainly against abortion because as a catholic i do believe its wrong. but then again, there are some circumstances where it seems reasonable. there`s never nothing right about taking a life .. but if a girl was raped, then abortion is reasonable. but if she was pregnant merely by having sex with someone willingly, then i believe its wrong .. even if she doesn`t want the baby or isn`t ready. have the baby and give him/her up for adoptiong, don`t take his/her life.

[casssy]

I remember doing my history project on abortion.. and it sickened me how they kill the baby.. i mean the older it is.. the worse it gets.. blah i dont even wanna talk about it now.. I can see if someone got raped and then they got pregnant.. but then again.. its hard to say ..its still wrong

[dasturbd]

The rape/incest argument is invalid. Like Kathleen said...its only 1%, and even so...How can you justify killing the baby? It's not the baby's fault in the least bit that his mother was raped. If it's too painful emotionally for the mother to keep the baby, then she can adopt the baby out.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard!! It's easy to say that when you're not the one who has to carry it. It's not the babies fault...no DUH!! So it's the woman's fault she got raped?? It's not bad enough that she had to go through something that horrible in the first place but now she has to carry a baby that was conceived out of violence, push it out and give it up?? Puhleeze!!

[shawty_redd]

i am AGAINST abortions...killing an innocent person that hasn't even been born yet is wrong and cruel....

[*Kathleen*]

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard!! It's easy to say that when you're not the one who has to carry it. It's not the babies fault...no DUH!! So it's the woman's fault she got raped?? It's not bad enough that she had to go through something that horrible in the first place but now she has to carry a baby that was conceived out of violence, push it out and give it up?? Puhleeze!!

Heh...I'm pretty sure I added that it's not the woman's fault, either. I agree, it will be painful, but at least through this tragedy, you could bring another life into this world. Granted, you don't have to keep it, but still...it's a life we're talking about here.

[dasturbd]

Heh...I'm pretty sure I added that it's not the woman's fault, either. I agree, it will be painful, but at least through this tragedy, you could bring another life into this world. Granted, you don't have to keep it, but still...it's a life we're talking about here.

that quote wasn't off of yours it was white chocolates...and yes it is a life;however, the mother's life and well-being are to be considered also. I'm just saying that I don't care if it's 1% or 50%...the choice should be there. why should the woman be punished twice...first by being raped and secondly by being made to carry a child made through violence and resentment. She will have a constant reminder in her head of what has happened to her, let alone made to live carrying a creation against her will

[rivendell]

Regarding this comment, and since I haven't seen any hard proof or evidencial material to substantiate any of your claims yet...

According to Kansas City Star (this was an editorial on the February 13th edition of my hometown's paper):

"Of all abortions committed from Jan. 1990 (when clinics began logging causes of abortions) to Dec. 2003:

86% Unwanted pregnancy (female choice)
12% Health risks (to mother)
1% Fatal health risks/deformalities (child)
1% Rape cases"

Read the print in bold.

I can't remember, I think some 10,000+ abortions have happened in that time period.

Allow the whopping 14% of mothers with legitimate abortion reasons to have them.
Arrest/fine the 86% that needlessly murder children every week.

Look, I never said I was going to offer any hard proof or evidence. I didn't even make a claim. I just asked a question. Jeez.

I'm not trying to change what you believe; you're allowed to believe what you want, whether I agree or not. I was simply making a statement as to what I personally believe.