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Death sentence..., What happens to those who kill killers?
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post May 14 2005, 02:07 AM
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OK well for those who don't know, When some one is sentenced to the death sentence there has to be at least one person there to kill the Person on death. But if the person being killed is being killed because he killed soem one, shouldn't the person killing the murderer be put to death. And if that happens we will end up killing each other out of existance untill only one person is alive then he had to kill himself. Doesn't that seem a bit odd?


Ok just toclear things up. I don't mean that there shouldn't be a death sentence.
 
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post May 14 2005, 01:25 PM
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Yes, logically, yes. However, that is a rare occurrence. The security in prisons holding death row murderers is more stringent even than POW camps.

It doesn't happen often.
 
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post May 14 2005, 04:37 PM
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So you mean that the person who flips the swith to the electric chair or the person who administers the lethal injection is guilty of murder?

Is that what you're trying to say?
 
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post May 15 2005, 01:19 AM
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Oh, I thought she meant prisoners killing other prisoners.

Whoops -- disregard anything I said.
 
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post May 15 2005, 09:39 AM
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But if the person being killed is being killed because he killed soem one, shouldn't the person killing the murderer be put to death.


It depends on what your definition of murder is. If you believe capital punishment is outright murder, then i guess you would view it that way.
 
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post May 15 2005, 09:44 AM
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chaa there should be deatch sentance. would u awnt soemeon who lives who killed a pregnant women?
 
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post May 15 2005, 04:40 PM
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You do have a point.
But the person who is killing that person who is in death sentenced shouldn't get killed him/herself. I think that because that person who is killing the death sentenced person is doing something good - keeping the world a little more safer from killers. Murderers kill innocent people. The people who kill the murderers kill guilty people. There's the difference.
 
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post Jun 9 2005, 12:57 PM
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Well...from a religious standpoint, isnt justice being served? Why should the ones who are killing the guilty be condemed? even though the justice system isnt perfect and innocent have died, but what right do they have on this planet, and i would rather take death than life in prison.
 
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post Jun 9 2005, 01:16 PM
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there is a difference between killing somone and murdering them...look at the definitions. wink.gif

murder - The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice

kill - To put to death

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post Jun 17 2005, 06:14 PM
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Well if you were that concerned about it, you could just make a machine that runs off a timer so no one has to flip a switch. laugh.gif
 
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post Jun 17 2005, 06:40 PM
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Um, I find this pretty stupid because you're not killing the person for your own reasons, you're killing them because it's the law. Murder is unlawful killing of another person, but if you're given permission to be an executioner by the people who actually put the killer in death sentence, then you're okay.
Like CrackedRearView said, if everyone were so concerned, you might as well waste thousands of dollars making an electronic timer for every prison.
 
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post Jun 26 2005, 05:59 AM
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Logically, if you think the executioner deserves to die, then so does the judge who mandated the sentence and the jury who chose to convict with the option of the death penalty.

To even consider that is irrational. Before a person even commits a crime that warrants the death penalty, the laws of this country say that certain crimes may carry a sentence of death. So, it's not like the punishment is retaliatory. It is preset. You do A, you get B. Who cares who facilitates B?

To pull the Ten Commandments argument is faulty also. The Hebrew word used in the Ten Commandments is 'murder', not 'kill' as so many people are falsely convinced. Why would a God who ordered His Chosen People into battle say it's not right to kill? I bring up the Ten Commandments because many of our founding fathers used biblical tenets in the process of framing our country's primary documents that established justice and government. stubborn.gif
 
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post Jun 26 2005, 12:24 PM
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is it right that a person kills someone because that person killed somone else? it's very confusing, i can see both sides to this. but do people rape the rapist? no, i don't think so. blink.gif
 
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post Jun 26 2005, 08:17 PM
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From what I know, you don't get the deathsentence for just murder. You usually get life for murder.

Death sentence is usually for serious crimes like multiple murder/man slaughter. Tourture ect.

I thought this was going to be a "Is the death sentence letting them off easy" deal. But, no, the guy killing isn't doing anything really wrong. People usually do this as a technical selfdefense. For people who are too dangerous to be kept alive, therefore if they are dead your defending lives.
 
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post Jun 26 2005, 10:08 PM
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^ He's right. The people doing the killing are doing a justice to the people.
 
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post Jun 26 2005, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(nerdxcore @ Jun 26 2005, 12:24 PM)
is it right that a person kills someone because that person killed somone else? it's very confusing, i can see both sides to this. but do people rape the rapist? no, i don't think so.  blink.gif
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I really hate it when people say this because it's so illogical that it's sickening. Why would anyone want to degrade themselves to rape a child rapist? When a killer is put on death row, at least the murderer gets put to death in the most humane way possible. Is rape ever humane?

If you want to talk about what is right, then let me ask you, is it right that a child rapist/killer gets to live in a place with cable tv and free meals? If that's justice, then this is a pitiful world of illogical idealists. That, or crazy, nonsensical sentimentalists.
 
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post Jun 29 2005, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Jun 17 2005, 4:14 PM)
Well if you were that concerned about it, you could just make a machine that runs off a timer so no one has to flip a switch. laugh.gif
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like my microwave oven..........*ding..*sniff "bagels done?"........"no"...."but the prisoner is!"

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I think killing murderers is the best thing in the world. An eye for an eye. Like people have said up there, there's a difference of murder and justice.
 
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post Jul 4 2005, 10:33 PM
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Yes! That thing confused me so much because I used to think that. It made no sense because if you killed someone for killing, then your the killer and its a never ending chain of killing. Then again, I think locking someone up for most of their life is wrong too...
 
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post Jul 4 2005, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(lAzN YiN YanGl @ Jul 4 2005, 10:33 PM)
Then again, I think locking someone up for most of their life is wrong too...
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Why?
 
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post Jul 5 2005, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(lAzN YiN YanGl @ Jul 4 2005, 9:33 PM)
Yes! That thing confused me so much because I used to think that. It made no sense because if you killed someone for killing, then your the killer and its a never ending chain of killing. Then again, I think locking someone up for most of their life is wrong too...
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Did you even read what everyone else said? I think CrackedRearView and ikayto pretty much made the point though.

They're killing for a good purpose; for justice. MURDER is something people get punished for. The person flipping the switch shouldn't be punished because they're doing the society good by ridding of someone who's a threat to other people.
 
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post Jul 5 2005, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(AkaRyux @ Jul 5 2005, 12:17 AM)
Did you even read what everyone else said? I think CrackedRearView and ikayto pretty much made the point though.

They're killing for a good purpose; for justice. MURDER is something people get punished for. The person flipping the switch shouldn't be punished because they're doing the society good by ridding of someone who's a threat to other people.
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I know but I am just saying that is what I thought when I was younger because...long story but I just don't think its right to do it. In my eyes killing someone because they kill is unjusitfyable and sets a bad example. I just don't believe in that because how is it doing society good when you tell people that when something isn't right you just take them out. It just doesn't fit for me

QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 4 2005, 10:36 PM)
Why?
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I don't want to sound cruel but people die all the time. Yes it is a sad thing, but what is locking them away for the rest of their life going to do? Ok they won't kill again if they wanted to because they would be locked up, but what would really be accomplished?
 
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post Oct 23 2005, 01:49 PM
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"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Religious or not, everyone should hold that standard. If you hit someone, they have the right to hit you back. If you take something from someone, they should have the right to take something of yours. But since you kill someone, they cant be there to kill you back, so they have a representative. That person acts on there behalf and administers the justice they and their families deserve. Sounds kinda like the American government doesnt it? Everyone has the right to life, and when you infringe on someones rights, ur rights should be infringed on. Somebody once said "My right to swing my fist ends where another mans nose begins." If somebody starts kickin ur ass, you have every right to kick their ass back. If you're being attacked on the streets and you feel your life is threatened, you kill them, you can plead self defense. If you get killed, the executioner acts like the lawyer, pleading self defense and getting justice. Im all for the death penalty.
 
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post Oct 23 2005, 03:19 PM
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this is a good topic, i never thought about what happens to the person that kills the killers! its quite krazy! why are u putting someone in prison for killing someone, but then u have someone kill the killer. thats weird! ermm.gif
 
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post Oct 24 2005, 12:55 PM
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Death sentence should be abolished. Sure, i want a murderer to be killed but still sometimes things go wrong. What if the the "murderer" wasn't really the murderer, so there goes an innocent life. A criminal should be put to jail for the rest of his/her life. Tortured or whatever, but not "killed". Why kill? It's useless.
 
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post Oct 24 2005, 06:23 PM
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^Killing isn't really useless...it helps lower overpopulation (as cruel as it sounds)

The executioners are paid to kill. No one will have to kill them. Besides, nowadays, it's the electric chair...
 

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