God Options

[cleec]

i don't know if i believe in god because the idea of him is so fake..i mean one person who created every single person on the planet and created the entire universe, i know i should believe it but i don't..maybe i do i dunno anymore.

also what i don't get is if god is supposed to forgive everyone of their sins then why is there even a hell?

[lilb]

I can explain it all...but you have to honestly wanna know. If you ask questions like that and really sincerely wanna kno the answers, read the bible, then it will all make sense.

[Fireshrieker]

If there were a solid middle ground, then I would be standing right on it.

Why, you ask? Because since I have been raised in a christian background, I have the entire god thing engrained in my mind, but I was never SERIOUSLY religious, so its not that overwhelming.

I mean, i believe the bible and everything, I just really don't like the entire book of Genesis. I'm strongly one way for evolutionism, but my idea is that if God didn't create it, then it at least HELPED us to become who we are now, as the human race. I mean, think about it- how could humans suddenly evolve from neanderthals to the extreme dominant race in such a short time? (this is looking at a universal standpoint, where a few thousand years is nothing compared to the billions of years the universe has been in existence). And so on. I really don't think I need to talk more about this.

On another note, evolution and phylogeny. Seeing as that 97% of our DNA is the same as chimpanzees and they even have a small degree of intelligence as us, how exactly did we evolve from the chimps and how did they stay as they are? Whatever happened to homo erectus, neanderthals? Shouldn't they still be alive too if chimps are? What allowed the chimps to survive with their current form? Why is there an unbridged gap (as of modern day) between us and chimpanzees? I believe this is where God comes in.


whoo. I love a good debate.

[tkproduce]

disproving what is written on the Bible does not disprove God. Like I've said, the Bible was written by HUMANS, not God. If the people who wrote the Bible believed in hell, then let it be so. God is whatever the human mind wants it to be - God could be male, female, genderless. As long as the human imagination has no limits, than there will be no limits on what God can be or do. Can you picture 4 dimensions in your head? How about 10? or 23? Whatever God is, it's beyond whatever you can picture in your mind, but isn't it assuring to feel that there is something that is just beyond our level of intelligence?

[tofumonzter]

We are all created by God, and there's God. Why?

Well, a lot of you might have think that we are form from monkeys. Yes a lot of people believe in me, but have you(people who believe in we are from monkeys) found any half monkey, half human creature? Well, if you can find me one tell me.

^ This statement can easily prove that there's a God, because we are not form from monkeys.

[waccoon]

We are all created by God, and there's God. Why?

Well, a lot of you might have think that we are form from monkeys. Yes a lot of people believe in me, but have you(people who believe in we are from monkeys) found any half monkey, half human creature? Well, if you can find me one tell me.

^ This statement can easily prove that there's a God, because we are not form from monkeys.

we were genetically mutated from monkeys over many years, so the process was gradual. it didnt go BAM theres your human, no more monkey.

[Fireshrieker]

we were genetically mutated from monkeys over many years, so the process was gradual. it didnt go BAM theres your human, no more monkey.

yes, but check my post, the second large part of it. That's my argument against evolution being the only factor in the creation of humans.


EDIT: fine, here it is.

On another note, evolution and phylogeny. Seeing as that 97% of our DNA is the same as chimpanzees and they even have a small degree of intelligence as us, how exactly did we evolve from the chimps and how did they stay as they are? Whatever happened to homo erectus, neanderthals? Shouldn't they still be alive too if chimps are? What allowed the chimps to survive with their current form? Why is there an unbridged gap (as of modern day) between us and chimpanzees? I believe this is where God comes in.

think about that.

[tofumonzter]

we were genetically mutated from monkeys over many years, so the process was gradual. it didnt go BAM theres your human, no more monkey.

Can you find me a half monkey, half human creature?

[waccoon]

i told you long, read my post. there isnt any because we slowly mutated from them. and they we are much superior in intelligence because our brain is similar, but not the same to them. we developed language and a culture, and went on from there. do me a favor, and read darwin.

[Fireshrieker]

i told you long, read my post. there isnt any because we slowly mutated from them. and they we are much superior in intelligence because our brain is similar, but not the same to them. we developed language and a culture, and went on from there. do me a favor, and read darwin.

WHY don't you people read what i said? grarrrrrr

[tofumonzter]

How did the evolution stop?
In the Bible it's written clearly that God created human on the 6th day.

[tofumonzter]

and how did it start?




sorry for the double posting.

[onenonly101]

I believe in God. He has always been there. He gives me the choice to make the decisions i make wether good ones or bad ones. He is a loving God for the fact that he shows us mercy and grace. Mercy is Him not giving us what we do deserve for our actions and grace is Giving us things we do not deserve. He is real. I have proof, you not might believe my proof but it is true. God has brought me through alot of things, without him I would be another one of these pregnant girls running around my school. He has given me so many miracles I cannot even reacconut them for you. God is like the wind, there but you can't see Him even though some poeple might believe he isn't there he still is. No matter what. I can't even explain everything I feel about God because it is unexplainanle. He is the reason that I am who I am today. He is the reason I am alive. He is the reason for everything there is.

okay, im gonna start something new. if i go murder some child, why should i have to go to hell for it? after all, god is perfect. god knew that i was going to kill that little kid. if he knew it was going to do it, then i couldn't have possibly changed my mind. if i changed my mind and let the child live, god would have been wrong. and god is perfect. so why should i go to hell for my 'mistakes'? i shouldn't. whoever thought up god should have thought a little harder.

What you have wrong is that we go to hell for our mistakes. You don't go to hell for your mistakes. When you become a Christian(accepting Christ into your heart because you believe he dided on the cross for all of our sins and you want the holy spirit to live in you and direct your paths) your name is written in the Book of Life. When God writes your name in it it is like inl you can't erase it. No matter what you do you will not go to hell. That is why God is a merciful God. Jesus died on the cross for all our sins because he loved us so much and in that he will never forget us. God even loves those who hate him and it is never to early to accept Him in your life. All I can say is God has always been there and will always be there.

[waccoon]

and how did it start?




sorry for the double posting.

asexual cellular reproduction? about four billion years ago. molecules could reproduce and replicate themselves, eventually creating the first cell, which in turn creates the first animal.

[onenonly101]

^^Or God made them

[Fireshrieker]

asexual cellular reproduction? about four billion years ago. molecules could reproduce and replicate themselves, eventually creating the first cell, which in turn creates the first animal.

that's true. Ever hear of Stanley Miller? He made an experiment where he emulated early earth's chemical atmospheric conditions, with no organic compounds. After he performed the experiment, he discovered something strange: amino acids were being created. As this builds, some sort of mutation would have created one-celled creatures (____ --EDIT- sorry.)and the stone rolls on.

[waccoon]

that's true. Ever hear of Stanley Miller? He made an experiment where he emulated early earth's chemical atmospheric conditions, with no organic compounds. After he performed the experiment, he discovered something strange: amino acids were being created. As this builds, some sort of mutation would have created one-celled creatures (not animals, nick.) and the stone rolls on.

i believe i said in turn. eventually.

[onenonly101]

What confuses me is how people can believe science and one cell forms in to an animal then into a human and gases composing and making the earth and what not, but people find it hard to believe in God

[Spirited Away]

What confuses me is how people can believe science and one cell forms in to an animal then into a human and gases composing and making the earth and what not, but people find it hard to believe in God

I believe it because I can see it. I can look into a microscope and see it happening, while God is no where to be seen...

Then again, I'm not saying that God doesn't exists because he cannot be seen, but usually I believe things that have been experimented many times and I can trust that if I perform the same experiement it will yield the same result.

[AmesBond]

Ok, I'm not a religious person, but I suppose there is a "God." Who am I to say that he doesn't exist. I don't know for sure. And besides, if he gives hope to billions of people, then why not let there be a "God"?

[katers]

I believe in God/Jesus. Know why, because He came into my life. Something that doesnt exist doesnt just come into your life. What Roxanne said, I totally agree with. Faith is about believing when you can't see. It's not a coincidence that so many people feel a change in their life, and feel that it's Jesus coming to them. A sad thing though is that the main cause of atheism in the world is Christians. So many Christians that give a false message of having to be good to have God in your life. Or having to be a perfect person to be a Christian. None of that is true. I pray for you guys.

[waccoon]

why do you find it hard to believe? we have proof.
there isnt a god, he gives hope to billions of people, and they're wrong, they're sheep.

[onenonly101]

I believe it because I can see it. I can look into a microscope and see it happening, while God is no where to be seen...

Then again, I'm not saying that God doesn't exists because he cannot be seen, but usually I believe things that have been experimented many times and I can trust that if I perform the same experiement it will yield the same result.

you can't look into a microscope and see evolution, or even see all cells and molecules. It is like geometry in a sense, it is all made up

why do you find it hard to believe? we have proof.
there isnt a god, he gives hope to billions of people, and they're wrong, they're sheep.

proof? you base your decisions on what others have said before you so how do you know that is true? I am a sheep it says it in the bible, The followers of Christ are sheep, and he is our shepard. He doesn't just give me hope he gives me truth, and comfort and so many other things

[katers]

and if evolution was real and there was a "big bang" things wouldnt be in order. planets would be tilted. an example is if you threw pieces of a pusszle with letters on them on the ground. they wouldnt automatically fit together. most of them wouldnt make words. some would be upside down. thats why there is a hand that puts the peices of the puzzle together, just as the world was made.

[Spirited Away]

you can't look into a microscope and see evolution, or even see all cells and molecules. It is like geometry in a sense, it is all made up

I'm not saying that I see evolution, but what do you mean I can't see cells... what were those things then in biology class I wonder?

Evolution can be seen through archeological findings.

Geometry is made up?