Moderator Promotion and Demotion Options

[*disco infiltrator*]

Yes I know. But if you do find inactive mods, then you can PM an Admin/Head about it. How many times we run roll-calls has nothing to do with people who don't participate in them. Yes, the activity of a mod affects you, but there's really no solid way to make actual LAWS about the activity mod, seeing as there could be very different case-by-case situations for each person.

[racoons > you]

i said improved transparency. not 'let's get rid of backstage and have direct democracy on every issue'.

it will still be up to admins/heads to ensure that these rules ar enforced. including them in teh bylaws means that members have a degre eof insight as to how the site is run, and that it is being done so effectively

[racoons > you]

But if you do find inactive mods, then you can PM an Admin/Head about it

lovely in theory, but if ever a mod is pointed out as being noticably absent by multiple members in the mod performance thread, we are jus totld they have lives and not to worry about it

why would one member pming an admin make the slightest bit more impact?

[*disco infiltrator*]

Well, even if it's just this issue, I don't think there needs to be a law about it at all. Admins can handle it. They do it whenever they think it needs to be done. That may end up to be 10 times a year, it may end up to be 2. We don't know. If everyone seems to be active, why do one just to fill a quota?

[racoons > you]

so that members can be confident that mods are being consistently held to account.

[*disco infiltrator*]

But we just told you it happens and how it does. That should tell you. If you think someone or multiple people are not being active, you could PM a mod and ask when the last roll call was. If it's too far back, you PM an Admin/Head and ask for one to be made now.

[racoons > you]

yes, yes.

you've told me exactly how it happens and that it does happen. i have no reason whatsoever to believe you.

writing it down gives faith that it is happening, and that im not being bullshitted.

as for pming an admin/head, a member would be told that the concern was appreciated, mods have lives, and that admins will decide when a mod is inactive enough to be demodded. isnt that what you would say if i pmed you about an activity concern?

[racoons > you]

ooh this is odd.

i can see my post, but even when i refresh, it is still showing sammi as the last person to hae posted

[*Azarel*]

^ Try clearing your cache.

[racoons > you]

*is embarrassed that he doesnt know what cache means*

[*disco infiltrator*]

On your browser...

Tools > Internet Options > Delete Temporary Files

I believe.

[racoons > you]

indeed. ah well, it is fixed now... thanks, anna.

back to the topic

[*mzkandi*]

Ok, one the main reasons for admin demotion is inactivity, how long is it to be considered inactive? And how does one go about petitioning that an admin be demodded? I much prefer that an admin should know they are not active enough and voluntarily resign from their postion rather than some sort of petition for demotion (most likely among mods) to take place. Whatever the process is, the issue of inactivity should apply for all staff postions.

As far as actual promotion, well the high ups judgement call on who they think is best fit for the positon plays a major role so its not like we can set actual requirements for that, whomever that deem the best fit for the postion will get it (this concerns promotion to head staff and admin positons).

[*disco infiltrator*]

Well I think Admins/Heads should take notice if someone is reasonably inactive and confront them about it themselves either telling them to improve or be demoted.

[*mzkandi*]

^
I agree....as much as a hate to admit it, and I believe Frankie brought it up somewhere, a few mods activeness and overall modness I call into question sometimes especially when there are people willing to take their job and be much better at it :/

[*disco infiltrator*]

There's more than a couple that I question myself...

[demolished]

If any mod had their internet cut off, computer damages, … and had been inactive for a month. Do they lose their moderator power? Should we hire substitute mods ?

[*incoherent*]

If any mod had their internet cut off, computer damages,  … and had been inactive for a month. Do they lose their moderator power? Should we hire substitute mods ?

i dont think so. frankie had problems mostly over the summer, but there are enough mods to cover the loss of one person for the time being.

[coconutter]

Besides, it would be totally out of the way to set up a system that makes someone a mod for a certain amount of time, or to take away their moding privlages when they come back, I think you guys have enough mods to cover for that one person, also.

[Retrogressive]

I agree, I think inactivity for around a month and a half minus any computer problems of that sort is enough for the people to petition for de-modding. But I think the mods should really be the ones who notice their fellow staff member's activeness or abscence.

-Also as a side note, I feel as if by-laws is bringing the backstage happenings more into light to the rest of CB. But I to do not believe that everything should be brought into the light. Somethings can only be decided by the admins and mods.

[*incoherent*]

^
its kind of late to be letting us know that now since were almost finished...and jusun left it opened so the community, like you, could leave input.

and besides, there are head staff on the bylaws committee...the bylaws were set up so the community could have a say so in what happens and not just leave it to the admins. there was also no limit to what could and couldnt be brought up.

[Retrogressive]

I know that's my bad. I was skittish around by-laws and only reading for a while because I'm not on the committee or an official member. Thank you for yet again pointing that out Spencer.

[*incoherent*]

I know that's my bad. I was skittish around by-laws and only reading for a while because I'm not on the committee or an official member. Thank you for yet again pointing that out Spencer.

what? what am i pointing out?

[demolished]

I know that's my bad. I was skittish around by-laws and only reading for a while because I'm not on the committee or an official member. Thank you for yet again pointing that out Spencer.

It doesn’t matter whether you're an official member, committee or not. Suggestions are always appreciate in feedback.

[*mzkandi*]

Ok, so does anyone have any further feedback on moderator promotions and demotions?