modding: what does the job entail Options

[*disco infiltrator*]

Relate it to policemen.

They do the same, no? They have to keep the peoples' respect and still enforce the law. They know the people and interact with them, still punishing those who deserve it.

[Spirited Away]

i don't really see why the two should be linked...
it's asking mods to be the axe man and the PR rep at the same time...

and i don't see why they must be separated. i understand where you're coming from. you're saying that it's more efficient to place a person who's good at socializing in the position to socialize, and a person who's good at laying down the rules should work on laying down the rules. but why do that when cB can have a person who has more merit, thus more deserving, because he/she is good at doing both at the same time?

[sadolakced acid]

in policemen, aren't there the beat cops, whose job is to walk around and know the place, and aren't there the swat cops, whose job is to do a specific, more dangerous, less nice job?

and i don't see why they must be separated. i understand where you're coming from. you're saying that it's more efficient to place a person who's good at socializing in the position to socialize, and a person who's good at laying down the rules should work on laying down the rules. but why do that when cB can have a person who has more merit because he/she is good at doing both at the same time?

who says you can't have that person too?

don't have to completely seperate... you could have people in both groups.

but i think it'd be more efficent to have one person good at socializing, and one person good at the rules than one person good at both, simply because one person can only be online so much.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Well yea, there's the tough job guys, but I'm talking about your local cops. Your town doesn't have its own SWAT team, does it?

[sadolakced acid]

well, we have the cops we drive around in patrol cars and we only see when they pull us over, and then we have the cops to go to schools and talk and walk around the mall and help escort funerals...


some cops will, of course, do both. but there is some degree of seperation...

[*disco infiltrator*]

The cops that drive around in the cars are the cops that go to schools and do talks. They're the same people. They just separate when they do which.

And even when pulling someone over, they don't provocate the people into fighting, do they? No, they have to be respectful while still enforcing the law.

[Spirited Away]

who says you can't have that person too?
don't have to completely seperate... you could have people in both groups.
but i think it'd be more efficent to have one person good at socializing, and one person good at the rules than one person good at both, simply because one person can only be online so much.

Of course you can, but rememeber that the number of staff is limited. why give the job to two people when one can happily fufill it? as for the problem of inactivity, a person of "merit" would be one who is dedicated enough to be on as much as he/she can.

[sadolakced acid]

why should the number of staff be limited, exactly?

would it really hurt tohave 50 mods?

[*disco infiltrator*]

But why would you have 50 when you don't need to? Why can't we just appoint people who do both? Why is it so necessary to separate?

[Spirited Away]

*rubs imaginary beard*... Hmmmmmmmm. 50 mods...

[sadolakced acid]

But why would you have 50 when you don't need to? Why can't we just appoint people who do both? Why is it so necessary to separate?

you could reduce the number of cops in a city by forcing them all to work overtime...

look, i'm just trying to make the modding job a little less of a chore, as it seems like now, that way mods can enjoy cB a little more.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Usually people who actually dislike the job quit.

Those of us who stay don't really dislike it. There's just some aspects of things we don't like, but it's the same with any other thing. If we really didn't want to do it and it was a chore, we'd quit.

[sadolakced acid]

and some good people have quit over the times.

why have 12 people when you could have 24?

[*disco infiltrator*]

Why have 24 when you could have 12?

Hot damn this moves faaast.

[sadolakced acid]

because you're more likely to have someone online with 24.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Or you could just hire 12 people who vary with the times they're on.

[sadolakced acid]

but why bother?

[*disco infiltrator*]

Well let's see, it's 1 AM...

And I'm on.

We have people in school not on from 8-3 on weekdays, but then we have people in college who are on during the day.

We do have people who vary. Why have more just to cover EVERY SINGLE MOMENT of time? We don't need it. Everything gets covered, and if it doesn't, it's not cause of the times of the day that people are on.

[sadolakced acid]

why not have more?

what's it hurt, really?

i don't see that as hurting anything. if tehre are qualified candidates, why not?

[*disco infiltrator*]

1) What's it hurting not having more? Why does it have to change?
2) There aren't that many qualified cantidates, certainly not enough to double us all.
3) Did you read my earlier point about having to still be respectful/nice even when enforcing, with the PMs back and whatnot?

[sadolakced acid]

yea, i read that...

i'll take that into consideration... tommorrow. i have to go now. got stuff to do.

but i think anyone who meets the qualificationsn and is agreed would make a good mod should be modded.

cus really, inactive people staffers don't hurt anyone.

[*mzkandi*]

I mean, sure there will times when there arent as many mods online at certain times, but see there is thing called "having a life" and well not everyone can spend all their time on cB like its some alternative universe (something that has overstated many times). I see what you are saying by simplying stating that it would nice to have forums moderated all times but with the current staff we have now, the forums are well moderated and we dont have a zillion people on staff, it simply isnt neccessary and you cant seriously think that any like that would implicated. Because as part of the committee I will be the first to say I wont support it.

[Heathasm]

i don't see a problem with the number of mods we have now and their jobs...before the new mods were hired we were noticabley short handed due to step downs and the such but with a good 4 new people staffers a mod is on at almost all times.

i've never been to a large forum that had a really large amount of mods...i doubt we could pick THAT many trustworthy people and not have some sort of riot like when cb was hacked before, i really do

[KissMe2408]

I almost completely agree with Justin. In my mind, a moderator's job is to maintain order on the boards. Being responsible and mature is an important quality, although it is more of a quality than "something the job entails" .... The job of a moderator is to keep things from getting out of hand, which generally entails moving/locking topics, warning members, and generally making sure rules and guidelines are followed.

Yes, and the "moving/locking topics, warning members, making sure rules and guidelines are followed," That does take responsibility to do that job, no?

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But really...being someone who interacts with the community is a mod duty. If you're a big bitch all the time, how are you supposed to represent the community in decisions? How are you going to expect people to listen to you when you set the rules? How are you going to expect people to look up to you and follow your example? I mean, you don't have to sugar-coat things and make everything seem peachy keen, but you can't be rude for no reason without provocation and you can't go around starting unnecessary fights. That is a requirement.
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^exactly.

ah, and that whole "2 groups" of mods, thing. ah....don't you understand? you shouldn't have to have 2 groups, the mod should be both of those combined. and upper and lower house...man, i won't even start. and 50 mods? that's just way too many...too many cooks in the kitchen....there is no NEED for 50 mods. And usually we have enough mods on at the same time, i think this place is pretty well run.

[sadolakced acid]

lack of need is not a good reason.

what i see is an arbirary limit on the number of mods.

wouldn't it be better if you weren't shorthanded when a few mods step down?

what would it hurt to have 5 extra people staff?

i very often hear mods complain that they have lives and such and they can't be online all the time.

will more mods, it would provide a little leeway.

and as far as grouping mods, i can see how that might not work, but i can also see how it would work.