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stupid grammar rule., POOH.
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post Oct 7 2005, 12:16 AM
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this sentence is punctuated correctly:
Did Bob say "lemmings"?

this sentence is punctuated correctly:
Bob really said "lemmings"!

this sentence is punctuated incorrectly
Bob said "lemmings".

the correct way is:
Bob said "lemmings."

which is the stupidest rule every.

Why?

because of why punctuation rules with quote work.

if the quotation is a sentence, end it in the quote. also end the sentence containing the quote.

Bob said, "I am a lemming.".

however, that is redundant and the last period is left off, leaving

Bob said, "I am a lemming."

however

Bob said "lemmings". is the proper way to punctuate it, and then there is no redundancy, and no periods to remove.

so why the f**k do you have to move the period inside the quotations?
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 12:19 AM
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shush and just follow the rule
shows how confusing english is
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 12:20 AM
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yeah that is pretty retarded never looked at it that way
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 12:29 AM
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yeah, i have noticed that. thats my worst grammar mistake.
it just shows how confuzing the english language is.
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 01:05 AM
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is this correct?

why did bob say "purple"?

i alwys get confused with this because the question mark isn't in the quote and i've always been taught that everything goes into the quotations _unsure.gif
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 01:46 AM
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Yeah, that's right.
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 04:17 AM
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oi...i thought the questionmarks and exclamationmarks went inside the quotation marks. well, i learned something new today.
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 06:52 AM
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Well because in the first two sentences, the actual sentence itself is a question or exclamation, so it would not make sense if the mark was placed inside the quotation. However, in the third sentence, it's just a statement, so the period goes inside.
Acutally, I'm not so sure about that...
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 07:22 AM
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^ No, you're right. The period punctuates all of it, so it belongs in the quotations. The question and exclamation marks punctuate only the sentence.
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 07:25 AM
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^

then do you say:

Bob asked, 'what is a lemming?'

?
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 07:34 AM
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^ yes you do.

i get it...i actually do write it the correct way. hahah.
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 07:59 AM
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Way to confusing for my small brains :P havent even had that on school
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 08:14 AM
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hmmmm i never knew about that . about the question mark and exclamation point .
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 08:36 AM
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If we lived in England, that wouldn't be the case. I recommend reading Eats Shoots and Leaves
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 09:45 AM
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Man the English grammar gets really deep...
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 09:54 AM
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^Since we're talking about grammar, you need a comma after "man."
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 10:03 AM
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There are actually cases in which it is appropriate to place the punctuation mark outside the quotes, such as when lemmings is a special term. However, it is never incorrect to place it inside quotation marks, and it should definitely go inside if the period is also part of the quote (just as a question mark or exclamation point goes inside the quotes if it is actually part of the quotation).
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 11:29 AM
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eh, perfect english isnt always needed. my teachers probably dont even know about it.
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 11:31 AM
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Bah. Grammar is confusing. wacko.gif
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(tweeak @ Oct 7 2005, 9:54 AM)
^Since we're talking about grammar, you need a comma after "man."
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Ha Ha Ha, really funny....

lol

BTW, Julia don't you have school?
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(incoherent @ Oct 7 2005, 11:29 AM)
eh, perfect english isnt always needed. my teachers probably dont even know about it.
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Mine definitely do. We get massive points taken off if we don't punctuate around parenetheses correctly.
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 11:34 AM
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^ Yeah same here, especially since I'm in college.
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 11:35 AM
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Last year, my English teacher was incompetent, and this year, I have one who's reeeeally picky about things..

Anyway, you shouldn't just speak well for grades. Speak well because it sets a better example of yourself to others.

I had a half-day yesterday and today. _smile.gif
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 11:35 AM
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Nopee. Today is a teacher workday. =]

After reading this, I've noticed that I've made a lot of mistakes in my essays for school...and my teacher doesn't correct them. wacko.gif
 
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post Oct 7 2005, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Oct 7 2005, 11:35 AM)
Last year, my English teacher was incompetent, and this year, I have one who's reeeeally picky about things..

Anyway, you shouldn't just speak well for grades. Speak well because it sets a better example of yourself to others.

I had a half-day yesterday and today. _smile.gif

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I had that too. In 8th grade, I had a teacher who knew less about grammar and things than I did, and in 9th my teacher was not particularly concerned with specifics to last year one who picked a couple of points to dwell on and then just graded hard altogether. I haven't gotten any of my papers back to keep this year yet, so in my minimal viewing I'm not sure just how picky my teacher is, but I'm willing to bet she'll be just as bad as my current one.

I have a 4 day weekend as well (obviously, since I go to the same school as Julia)
 

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