face transplant Options

[hi-C]

I'm not sure if this is right for debate so I'll post this here. If I'm wrong, I know a wonderful mod will put it in the right section

Doctors are going attempt a radical new surgery: a total face transplant. They're going to take the face of a dead person and put it on the face of someone (as of yet not selected) whose face was horribly disfigured in some accident. You can read the article here.

When I saw this I was like "Holy crap" and actually felt a little sick to my stomach. Is the desire to look nice worth risking your life? And then the whole thing about it being the face of a dead person... I think that's effed up.

What do you guys think?

[rinchan089]

You may want to look at this slideshow from the Discovery Health Channel website about the show they did. It shows the results of one partial face transplant (it was her own face which had been detatched and put back on) and a severly disfigured woman who is waiting for a face transplant.

This may disturb some viewers. Viewer discretion is advised.

Face Transplant slideshow

Rin-chan

[WindSorcerous]

I heard about this...sounds too risky and gross to me...

[Gigi]

rinchan089 - Excellent link! Should open some eyes to the operation.

[mocassinsx29]

Well, it's more of skin than actually face I suppose...

[BeyondElite]

That's messed up. Just wasting your money just to get a face of a dead person.

[*mipadi*]

Please... you didn't say anything about the growth of scar tissue. If you infer something, we're suppoed to read your mind? Comparitavely speaking, [to me] the two are just alternatives to each other. I don't necessarily believe one's better than the other. It's my opinion. I'm sorry if it disagrees with yours, but hey. Thats life.

Not to be disagreeable, but actually, I did specifically mention scarring:

How are you going to shape it so there are no seams or scars?

[whooooshy]

that is soooo creepy. who in the world would want to do that? not only the whole face transplant, but from a dead person?? oh my goodness...

[Ington]

Oh my god.

Gigi, Mipadi, and a couple of more members and I have tried to explain the procedure to you all. BUT YOU REFUSE TO READ.

Freaking ignoramuses.

[Gigi]

^ You got that right.

[rinchan089]

rinchan089 - Excellent link! Should open some eyes to the operation.

Thanks! I had just seen the show on Discovery Health Channel like a week and a half ago and I see this thread! lol

And, really, if people actually read anything I or a few other members have said, they would be for the procedure as well.

I think they're just saying what all their friends are saying... You know, mob mentality. I didn't really have an opinion on this topic before I saw the show but I thought it would be unethical for someone to have someone else's face. Then they described the procedure and showed the one sucessful version of it and how they plan to do it and everything. When you think about it, putting anyone else's body part on someone else can be seen as unethical.

Doctors are now performing hand transplants. That's a dead guy's hand the patients are now using. But, I don't think it matters to them who's hand it is, as long as they can do everyday things.

I bet that if you didn't have a face, you would want the surgery too. I would post the picture of someone waiting for the surgery on here but I really don't want to have people make fun of her.

Just watch the slide show. It'll be very hard to say no to it afterwards.

Rin-chan

[hammers and hear...]

HAHAH INSTEAD OF TRADING SPACES IT WOULD BE TRADING FACES. wow thats creepy.

[rinchan089]

^^^ I didn't find that very funny...

Rin-chan

[totallyxticxtac]

that would be kinda gross cuz somebody might think ur that dead person. haha

[Gigi]

^ Oh dear.

[lbjshaq2345]

YESSSS.
Now I just have to wait until Rachel or Elba die.

felicia you dont need no face transplant you fine as hell anyway

HAHAH INSTEAD OF TRADING SPACES IT WOULD BE TRADING FACES.

^^^ I didn't find that very funny...

i found it f**kin hilarious

[PinkTrash]

uh yeah :/ won't a dead person's face be dehydrated and wrinkly anyway? But, they could probably fix that anyway. Scary; especially if somebody thinks you're some dead person

[*mipadi*]

uh yeah :/ won't a dead person's face be dehydrated and wrinkly anyway? But, they could probably fix that anyway. Scary; especially if somebody thinks you're some dead person 

Reading the article will clarify both these issues: the face is just like an organ, in that it is "fresh"; and it is the bone and muscle of a face, not the skin, that determines how a person looks, so they will not look like the deceased donater.

[OhXiet_ItzDonnA]

Ugh. That is real nasty. Why would someone take something from the dead? Isnt that disrespectful?

[doork]

shouldnt a dead person be left alone now since they're dead ? its jus my opinion ..

[*mipadi*]

Ugh. That is real nasty. Why would someone take something from the dead? Isnt that disrespectful?

Reading the article will reveal that the face is not "taken"; it's donated, just like a kidney or a heart. It's no more disrespectful than using organs that a person has donated, which is not disrespectful at all.

[angel-roh]

Wow.... and that doesn't like sound debate. You're just telling us what's going on about it.


But what the heck, who wants a dead face? Well maybe some people do. Like Chuckie the Doll. LOL hahaha. KIDDING!

He's not real and he's a doll lol.

Anyways, but that sounds really scary. If my crush died. And someone was using my crush's face... OMG!!!!! I would be so terrified. But who knows, that guy might have different personality, a better personality ;] hahaha just kidding. But NO THAT'S MESSED UP!! -_-;;

[Rachel]

Ugh. That is real nasty. Why would someone take something from the dead? Isnt that disrespectful?

shouldnt a dead person be left alone now since they're dead ?  its jus my opinion ..

Wow.... and that doesn't like sound debate. You're just telling us what's going on about it.
But what the heck, who wants a dead face? Well maybe some people do. Like Chuckie the Doll. LOL hahaha. KIDDING!

He's not real and he's a doll lol.

Anyways, but that sounds really scary. If my crush died. And someone was using my crush's face... OMG!!!!! I would be so terrified. But who knows, that guy might have different personality, a better personality ;] hahaha just kidding. But NO THAT'S MESSED UP!!  -_-;;

READ THE GOD DAMN ARTICLE AND WATCH THE SLIDE SHOW. AFTER YOU'VE DONE BOTH, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAKE A GOOD RESPONSE. Idiots.

[yuna*]

I think it's wrong. Why should you alter your face features that you are borned with? WTH..this is eff up, geesss people should learn to live with what they have. Even if you are involved in a accident, it's too bad then.

[Rachel]

^Borned isn't a word.

And what the hell does a dead person, who gave their consent for someone to use their body/face for science, need with a face?

[rinchan089]

I think it's wrong. Why should you alter your face features that you are borned with? WTH..this  is eff up, geesss people should learn to live with what they have. Even if you are involved in a accident, it's too bad then.

No offense, but you are ignorant. The people who would be recieving face transplants have faces and bodies that can barely be considered human (no offense to them either, I'm fighting on their behalf). I'm sure if you were in their situation, you would give your life for a new face.

It's not your fault you were hit by a drunk driver when you were in your twenties and your car exploded into flames. After recieving second and third degree burns all over your body, having massive amounts of decaying skin removed, living through immense amounts of pain and suffering, and being forced to give up the bright future you longed for just because you don't look at all normal, I think you'd rather die than live another minute without a face.

OhXiet_ItzDonnA  Posted Sep 26 2005, 4:27 PM
  Ugh. That is real nasty. Why would someone take something from the dead? Isnt that disrespectful?

Has anyone been reading ANYTHING that has been said in this conversation? Geez...

By what you have just said, you think that if your kidneys failed or you had congestive heart failure, you wouldn't have the right to recieve a new organ just because someone else isn't using it anymore.

My beloved, but sadly deceased, grandfather had many health problems later in life. He had 2 heart attacks, a lung removed, kidney failure and a heart transplant. If he didn't have the heart transplant when he did and was given 10 more years to live, he would never have seen my parents get married. He would never have have lived to see his grandchildren grow older. He would have missed out on what he would later call the best years of his life.

If he did not recieve a heart from a brain dead 17 year old boy who died soon after he drove into a tree, my grandfather would have died a week before my parents wedding. My life would be forever changed and so would everyone else he touched.

So, in conclusion, I believe it's okay to take from the dead if it will allow someone else to have a better quality of life.

Rin-chan