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post Sep 16 2005, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Sep 16 2005, 11:25 PM)
Hahahahaha, did you make that yourself?
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Noo. I found it off another MB that Im posting on about the controller. haha.
 
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post Sep 17 2005, 08:55 AM
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Here's the controller cradle I was talking about yesterday:

 
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post Sep 17 2005, 12:03 PM
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That's a lot nicer. Personally I feel that gaming consoles reached an epitome with the design of the GameCube's controller, at least as far as controllers are concerned. It was the perfect combination of size and functionality.
 
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post Sep 17 2005, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 17 2005, 12:03 PM)
That's a lot nicer. Personally I feel that gaming consoles reached an epitome with the design of the GameCube's controller, at least as far as controllers are concerned. It was the perfect combination of size and functionality.
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Oh, I forgot to mention that the picture is only a mockup. Maybe it will be like that, but that's not the final design.
 
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post Sep 17 2005, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Sep 17 2005, 2:00 PM)
Oh, I forgot to mention that the picture is only a mockup. Maybe it will be like that, but that's not the final design.
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I dont know why theyd make it like that since the gamecube controller is already supported.

Although if they DID do that type, it would eliminate the ports, which could either make the system smaller, or make more room for something else?
 
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post Sep 17 2005, 03:10 PM
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sry i made another topic on the controller itself. actually i didnt know this was still being posted in.

but i dont think it will be similar to the GC's controller. hopefully the cradle will look a little different. but i love how they constructed the contoller. i just dont know about holding that in the other hand yet. lol i tried to do it with the controller for the GC and the one of the tv to see how it would work. but its so awesome they are going out there with this controller. i didnt even think the controller was going to look like that. i thought both of them were giong to be attached, like parts to a puzzle, not like a wire.

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i think if they used the same kind of controller it would kind of be bulky especially the plug in of the new controller, and it would be kind of repetitive.

imagine FPS games. the shooting would be more accurate than ever. it would kind of suck if you had a cast on your arm. lol
 
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post Sep 17 2005, 10:16 PM
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woahh...that's AWESOME. i love the whole remote idea. clever, clever.
 
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post Sep 18 2005, 08:08 PM
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nice nice...

i can just see a game... knights of the old republic.

imagine one where you can actually swing the light saber in real time...

man..

all combat games with swords on the revolution will rock now...

then all they need is a pistol grip add on, and then all FPS games will rock.

and then a steering wheel add on and all car games will rock...
 
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post Sep 18 2005, 08:54 PM
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ohh man that light saber would be awesome . droolz.
 
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post Sep 18 2005, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 18 2005, 8:08 PM)
nice nice...

i can just see a game...  knights of the old republic. 

imagine one where you can actually swing the light saber in real time...

man..

all combat games with swords on the revolution will rock now...

then all they need is a pistol grip add on, and then all FPS games will rock.

and then a steering wheel add on and all car games will rock...
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http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=5567

Oh, and

 
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post Sep 18 2005, 09:38 PM
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well, if i'm going to buy a console, it's going to be a revolution.

who cares how good the guy looks? or how real the blood is? i don't even have a HD tv...

one of my TVs is at least 15 years old if not more...
old tube's still going strong.
plasmas, however, burn out, have imprintations, etc.


yea.

i think nintendo is going towards true gaming, where microsoft and sony are going towards interactive movies.
 
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post Sep 18 2005, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 18 2005, 10:38 PM)
well, if i'm going to buy a console, it's going to  be a revolution.

who cares how good the guy looks?  or how real the blood is?  i don't even have a HD tv...

one of my TVs is at least 15 years old if not more...
old tube's still going strong.
plasmas, however, burn out, have imprintations, etc.
yea.

i think nintendo is going towards true gaming, where microsoft and sony are going towards interactive movies.
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Exactly.

Sony just wants the PS3 to be a huge entertainment and media center.

And the xbox is just an over hyped computer/ISP.

Nintendo is the family console. It is there to get families together around the warm glow of the TV and have some fun! Jumping around playing tennis, slashing swords, shooting bad guys, and finding the hidden items. Gaming isnt just a sit down hobby anymore. Its time to get up and get active! Become part of the game!
 
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post Sep 18 2005, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Sep 18 2005, 8:59 PM)


kryo were do you find these things. do you make them?? you always have an illustration that is very ironic to the thing that we are tlaking about lol.
 
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post Sep 19 2005, 02:09 AM
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I'm not really sure how I feel about this new controller. I guess I should hold off judgement until I actually use it, but to be honest, I don't see what was wrong with the traditional style. I don't really want to swing a remote control-like thing in a baseball game, or use it like a gun or a fishing rod or any other item. I just want to push a couple buttons and relax with a sweet videogame.

That's one thing I do really like about Nintendo--instead of making all their games incredibly complex and flashy, they focus on intuitive gameplay and, most importantly, the story. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker is a perfect example: in an age when all the other companies are trying to outdo each other, Nintendo releases a game with relatively simple graphics that focuses on the story. That's why Nintendo is awesome. I'm not saying that this new style of controller with keep them from continuing that tradition, but to me, it just seems kind of pointless. I just want simple games like I used to play, not something brand-spanking-new and incredibly innovative like a motion-sensitve controller.
 
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post Sep 19 2005, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(pandamonium @ Sep 18 2005, 10:17 PM)
kryo were do you find these things. do you make them?? you always have an illustration  that is very ironic to the thing that we are tlaking about lol.
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Google Images, other message boards, etc.

QUOTE(mipadi)
  I'm not really sure how I feel about this new controller. I guess I should hold off judgement until I actually use it, but to be honest, I don't see what was wrong with the traditional style. I don't really want to swing a remote control-like thing in a baseball game, or use it like a gun or a fishing rod or any other item. I just want to push a couple buttons and relax with a sweet videogame.

That's one thing I do really like about Nintendo--instead of making all their games incredibly complex and flashy, they focus on intuitive gameplay and, most importantly, the story. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker is a perfect example: in an age when all the other companies are trying to outdo each other, Nintendo releases a game with relatively simple graphics that focuses on the story. That's why Nintendo is awesome. I'm not saying that this new style of controller with keep them from continuing that tradition, but to me, it just seems kind of pointless. I just want simple games like I used to play, not something brand-spanking-new and incredibly innovative like a motion-sensitve controller.


Luckily, there will be a bundled "shell" that is more like a regular controller in case you don't like moving your arms. If you saw the video, for the person controller Mario jumping, that didn't look to comfortable. In that case, I'd use a regular controller. But if I wanted to play ping pong with a friend? I'd use the gyroscopic controller. In fact, you could even just turn the controller sideways to play NES.
 
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post Sep 19 2005, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Sep 19 2005, 2:52 PM)
Luckily, there will be a bundled "shell" that is more like a regular controller in case you don't like moving your arms. If you saw the video, for the person controller Mario jumping, that didn't look to comfortable. In that case, I'd use a regular controller. But if I wanted to play ping pong with a friend? I'd use the gyroscopic controller. In fact, you could even just turn the controller sideways to play NES.
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You know for sure itll be bundled?

All the articles Ive seen say that they hope it will be, but nothing that says it will for sure.
 
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post Sep 19 2005, 10:00 PM
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nintendo probably will, because seasoned gmaers will prefer having the buttons and stuff.
 
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post Sep 19 2005, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 19 2005, 11:00 PM)
nintendo probably will, because seasoned gmaers will prefer having the buttons and stuff.
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But the whole point of the remote is to make games based on its functionality.

Having the buttons and the shell constantly in use wont utilize the remote functions at all.

The cradle isnt for all games, its more for the downloaded games and whatever other games use them.
 
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post Sep 21 2005, 09:42 AM
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The Revolution is very interesting. but I think that Nintendo is releasing too many systems. ex: GBA, SP, DS, Gamecube, and now Gameboy Micro.

I was indifferent with the controller at first. But thinking of the possiblities of what it can do, it just amazes me. hah, first person shotters would be awesome.
 
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post Sep 21 2005, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Sep 19 2005, 11:25 PM)
But the whole point of the remote is to make games based on its functionality.

Having the buttons and the shell constantly in use wont utilize the remote functions at all.

The cradle isnt for all games, its more for the downloaded games and whatever other games use them.
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I think they'd lose a lot of gamers if they didn't have a traditional controller.
 
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post Sep 21 2005, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 21 2005, 12:01 PM)
I think they'd lose a lot of gamers if they didn't have a traditional controller.
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Thats not the point. They WILL make a controller style shell for the remote.

The point is that the games are going to be made for the remote, and if they make all the games for the controller instead, that takes away credibility from Nintendo, for they make this revolutionary remote and then turn around and dont use it.

The point of the remote is to create new ideas, and breathe fresh air into gaming. All that gets trampled if they use the controller for most of the games.
 
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QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Sep 21 2005, 1:21 PM)
Thats not the point. They WILL make a controller style shell for the remote.

The point is that the games are going to be made for the remote, and if they make all the games for the controller instead, that takes away credibility from Nintendo, for they make this revolutionary remote and then turn around and dont use it.

The point of the remote is to create new ideas, and breathe fresh air into gaming. All that gets trampled if they use the controller for most of the games.
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Well, I guess part of being "revolutionary" is making something new that developers (and gamers) will take advantage of. To me, this controller seems to be a good idea conceptually, but I don't find it to be very practical. I know I'm not really interested in sitting in my living room and pointing a controller like a gun, or swinging it like a golf club or baseball bat, or anything else. It doesn't really seem geared towards the casual gamer.
 
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post Sep 21 2005, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 21 2005, 3:15 PM)
Well, I guess part of being "revolutionary" is making something new that developers (and gamers) will take advantage of. To me, this controller seems to be a good idea conceptually, but I don't find it to be very practical. I know I'm not really interested in sitting in my living room and pointing a controller like a gun, or swinging it like a golf club or baseball bat, or anything else. It doesn't really seem geared towards the casual gamer.
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I think its geared more towards casual gamers than anything.

Youre going to get the harcore console guys who are gonna talk about how they miss their controller and that they cant get used to the remote, evn though its a fairly simple idea, with almost a nil learning curve.

I think over all most people are psyched about the control, besides the few morons who talk in sentence fragments and numbers when they say, "t1s ug1y!!! t2h c0n+ro11er 1s s0 gh3y!" etc etc, but they hardly count, theyre all getting 360s anyway.

The cradle will probably be used for few games, mostly for the downloaded classics. And when it is used, most of the time it will combo the 3D pointing and the controller together. So youre still going to have to move around etc. If they really took most of the games and made them for the cradle use, theyd lose ALOT of credibility, like I said.

Developers are already jumping on this, with many of them speaking praise for the remote.
 
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QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Sep 21 2005, 3:23 PM)
I think its geared more towards casual gamers than anything.
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But it definitely requires a different mindset than using a traditional controller. I'm just saying that, speaking from the point of view of a casual gamer, I'm not interested in swinging some controller around to do stuff. I've been using a traditional controller since I was three, when the Nintendo was released, and I'm comfortable with that. I'm not interested enough in gaming to want to learn a new style of play, and I think that's the same for most casual gamers. I actually disagree with your statement: I think most hardcore gamers are heralding this controller, whereas most casual gamers are a) uninterested or b) don't like it.
 
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post Sep 21 2005, 07:51 PM
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well, i'd rather swing a remote thing to make the character swing a light saber than press A B up left left, or something like that.
 

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