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 Sep 11 2005, 10:41 PM
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 dripping destruction  Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929  |
you can explain jesus's ressurection the way the muslims do, by saying the romans killed the wrong person, and then the grave was robbed.
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Sep 11 2005, 10:59 PM
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you're getting yourself into some deep shit just by starting this topic.
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Sep 11 2005, 11:08 PM
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^yeah. and i want a duck.
not sarcasm. look at his signature! QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 11 2005, 11:41 PM) you can explain jesus's ressurection the way the muslims do, by saying the romans killed the wrong person, and then the grave was robbed.  but jesus would have said they killed the wrong person. i don't really understand. |
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Sep 11 2005, 11:24 PM
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 hojax to the max Group: Member Posts: 330 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 98,858 |
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 11 2005, 11:41 PM) you can explain jesus's ressurection the way the muslims do, by saying the romans killed the wrong person, and then the grave was robbed. okay...is this relating to something i'm missing? because pardon me for being rude if it is. or maybe you were trying to spark the debate again? in that case, good work  anyways there is no way that they killed the wrong person. jesus was a highly targeted man for claiming that he was the son of god and such...i dont think that they would make a mistake that big. |
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Sep 12 2005, 04:40 PM
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 My name's Katt. Nice to meet you! Group: Member Posts: 3,826 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 93,674 |
QUOTE(dancerellie714 @ Sep 11 2005, 8:08 PM) do you know for a fact whether homosexuality is a choice or not? that's a who other debate in itself. Who the hell would choose homosexuality with all the discrimination going on? I was talking to Frankie about what it was like being gay. He says he thinks girls are cool and sexy and stuff, but would never want to be in a relationship with them. That's how a straight person would think of someone their own gender. You can think someone's cool and sexy, but I doubt you'd actually want to end up marrying them. Anyway, back on topic. I think Jesus might be gay and might be straight, but does it really matter? Not really. The fact that homosexuality actually exists could lead to this question. Jesus could've actually contributed to the evolution of the gay culture or something of that sort. The fact that this isn't so obvious could say that maybe he was gay and the writers of the Bible and etcetera are trying to cover it up by condemning it. |
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Sep 12 2005, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Sep 11 2005, 8:19 PM) nature v nurture debate  Seriously. QUOTE(AkaRyux Posted Sep 12 2005 @ 4:40 PM ) The fact that this isn't so obvious could say that maybe he was gay and the writers of the Bible and etcetera are trying to cover it up by condemning it. I'm sorry, but that sounds more like a conspiracy theory. but then again, why not? Most people think that Christianity in itself is entirely a conspiracy. QUOTE(Anubis @ sometime...) you're getting yourself into some deep shit just by starting this topic. Ha ha. Thank you soo much for making my day. |
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Sep 12 2005, 06:20 PM
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I think its pretty clear when it tells you homosexuality is wrong in the bible so by saying is jesus gay is kind of an insult but I shall not pass judgement I don't think jesus was gay I think he was to himself.
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Sep 12 2005, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(jsmooth4ever @ Sep 12 2005, 6:20 PM) I think its pretty clear when it tells you homosexuality is wrong in the bible so by saying is jesus gay is kind of an insult but I shall not pass judgement I don't think jesus was gay I think he was to himself. In the bible they say homosexuality is wrong, but we've also been debating whether it is the act of homosexuality or the state of being that is forbidden. If it was only the act, then Jesus could have been gay as long as he didn't act on it. |
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Sep 12 2005, 06:40 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE(dancerellie714 @ Sep 11 2005, 11:24 PM) okay...is this relating to something i'm missing? because pardon me for being rude if it is. or maybe you were trying to spark the debate again? in that case, good work anyways there is no way that they killed the wrong person. jesus was a highly targeted man for claiming that he was the son of god and such...i dont think that they would make a mistake that big. did they have polaroids back then? did jesus sit down for hours and let the romans paint his mug shot, and then have that repainted tons and tons of times? was jesus on TV? the soldiers who killed jesus might not have actually seen jesus ever. all you need is a drunk guy claiming he's jesus. and what better way to affirm divinity than to 'rise' from the dead? if i were jesus, and i were pretending to be the son of god, i wouldn't say they killed the wrong person. i'd say i rose from the dead. |
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Sep 12 2005, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(mai_z @ Sep 12 2005, 6:36 PM) In the bible they say homosexuality is wrong, but we've also been debating whether it is the act of homosexuality or the state of being that is forbidden. If it was only the act, then Jesus could have been gay as long as he didn't act on it. But.. if your father was almighty and could wipe you from existance would you even think of being gay and not acting on it? |
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Sep 12 2005, 06:47 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
god only condemns the act.
you can be gay all you want. |
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Sep 12 2005, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 12 2005, 6:47 PM) god only condemns the act. you can be gay all you want. How could you be gay and never act on it? |
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Sep 12 2005, 07:02 PM
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^ I'll just use guys for example.
You can think guys are hot all you want, but if you have, ew, sex, double ew, w/ another guy then seriously. that's a no no. |
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Sep 12 2005, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 12 2005, 7:02 PM) ^ I'll just use guys for example. You can think guys are hot all you want, but if you have, ew, sex, double ew, w/ another guy then seriously. that's a no no. Can't be given a title when you haven't acted on anything cause how would you know if you are or not if you never ever acted on it so I doubt that jesus is gay not to say he had gay thoughts just pointing out sure you could have a thought in your mind that might come off thats gay to someone else but totally love woman thinking something does not make you gay acting on it does am I false? |
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Sep 12 2005, 07:51 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
gay= when a man likes a man.
the sin which is forbidden by the bible is when a man has sex with another man, to put it in laymans terms. |
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Sep 12 2005, 07:59 PM
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Point well taken
 might of wanted to use the word intimate though cause anybody can like anybody or have deeper feelings for don't mistake me for some of these un-educated folks.
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Sep 12 2005, 08:17 PM
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hojax to the max Group: Member Posts: 330 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 98,858 |
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 12 2005, 7:40 PM) did they have polaroids back then? did jesus sit down for hours and let the romans paint his mug shot, and then have that repainted tons and tons of times? was jesus on TV? the soldiers who killed jesus might not have actually seen jesus ever. all you need is a drunk guy claiming he's jesus. and what better way to affirm divinity than to 'rise' from the dead? if i were jesus, and i were pretending to be the son of god, i wouldn't say they killed the wrong person. i'd say i rose from the dead. actually, Judas, one of his disciples who said he would "commit his life to following Jesus and learn to be like him", was the one who lead the guards to Jesus. Judas had followed Jesus for a very long time and he betrayed him. Judas would DEFINATELY not get the wrong man. |
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Sep 12 2005, 08:52 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
^ by accident.
what if judas wanted the romans to stop hunting jesus, by leading them to the wrong man? the soilders wouldn't have known the difference. |
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Sep 12 2005, 10:03 PM
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hojax to the max Group: Member Posts: 330 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 98,858 |
there are quite a few passages that foreshadow the betrayal of Judas and talk about it afterwards....and it was by no means an accident.
and cruxifiction is a terrible way to die. if they had gotten the wrong man whether he was drunk or not he would have definately resisted. i have yet to see a report that Jesus (or on your side...the random man) struggled in the least bit and there were tons of witnesses. even if Judas had set up the wrong guy that guy would have definately struggled the slightest bit. there is no way Judas could have "payed off" someone because obviously they would have to die to get their "reward" and obviously when they're dead they dont need money. |
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Sep 12 2005, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Sep 12 2005, 7:51 PM) gay= when a man likes a man. the sin which is forbidden by the bible is when a man has sex with another man, to put it in laymans terms. You sound like a jungle man. "when Man has sex with man" Har har. Anyways. I'm sorry..but how do you not know you aren't gay? You like the same sex.  Is it really that hard?But Justin already took what I was going to say. Damn you. I'm confused. I read the thread, but i'm still confused. Who brought up Judas? |
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Sep 12 2005, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 11 2005, 3:43 PM) Shanin: He couldn't have been simply a man. A normal man can't be brought back to life. I forgot the fancy term. Shahin*. Yeah, a normal man can be brought back to life. If he has God, who can do all things behind him. QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Sep 11 2005, 5:19 PM) um, what? have you ever heard of the trinity? no? strange. You make me laugh. |
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Sep 13 2005, 09:13 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE(dancerellie714 @ Sep 12 2005, 10:03 PM) there are quite a few passages that foreshadow the betrayal of Judas and talk about it afterwards....and it was by no means an accident. and cruxifiction is a terrible way to die. if they had gotten the wrong man whether he was drunk or not he would have definately resisted. i have yet to see a report that Jesus (or on your side...the random man) struggled in the least bit and there were tons of witnesses. even if Judas had set up the wrong guy that guy would have definately struggled the slightest bit. there is no way Judas could have "payed off" someone because obviously they would have to die to get their "reward" and obviously when they're dead they dont need money. and if the bible didn't detail judas's betrayal then you'd probably say there would be no way one of jesus's deciphels would betray him. mayhaps, to get the romans to stop hunting jesus, that story was spread, so that judas would be believed. and then it was written into fact by someone hearing it as fact. and judas could have been paid off. some people can be chivarous. man gambles his family into slavery. he can't live with himself. this judas needs someone to die for jesus. the man is happy to help, and in return judas pays off his debt so his family can go free. there are many ways to explain the ressurection of christ. QUOTE(sprinkle-the-stars @ Sep 12 2005, 10:15 PM) I'm sorry..but how do you not know you aren't gay? You like the same sex. define like then.
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Sep 15 2005, 09:35 PM
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Homo Jesus?? Sure why not? Anyway, I don't think he was homosexual but I do think he had hormones like us.
Homosexuality wasn't even defined back in his age. Homosexuality by nature is accepted in the Bible, but sex on a homosexual is rejected. |
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Sep 17 2005, 09:30 AM
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show me a garden thats bursting to life Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,303 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 115,987 |
Jesus was kinda like a nun. Nun's aren't allowed to have sex or husbands or whatever after they take their final vows...
Jesus was a nun. Ok that was purely an anology. God I can't spell. QUOTE(Justin) define like then. Like? As in I like a guy? Or was that a trick question? Oh Shahin! Sorry I mispelt your name. I wasn't wearing my glasses. |
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Sep 17 2005, 10:41 AM
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^ i wouldnt say jesus was a nun..
but then, what do i know, im jewish. i think its possible but very unlikely that jesus was gay. i really doubt that his message would have spread as well...had he been found out. people were just as prejudiced then as they are now. i do think that he wasn't celibate. i just can't believe that he never had sex. im not saying i believe what the da vinci code says (which is one of the best freakin books ever) but....that he was gay............ not really i can say whatever i want, and not be afraid that god'll strike me down. hehe.  sometimes being the only jew..talking about a christian topic..is fun! 
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