do you think this is sexist-, for women to be painted nude but not men |
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do you think this is sexist-, for women to be painted nude but not men |
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![]() Always Move Fast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 167 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 192,635 ![]() |
ok i know this is a weird topic to talk about. I am in art class right now and arguments have been going on and on and on about this topic. I just want to get different views. Lets now screw this up and act all silly and everything please.
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![]() Always Move Fast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 167 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 192,635 ![]() |
whoops sorry i posted so much...my computer.
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it's not sexist. it depends on what the artist wants. if someone wants to paint nude men, then no one would really care. it's just that not many people do/have.
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*disco infiltrator* |
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It might be just me, but I think the woman's naked body is..prettier than the guy's. Penises are really ugly.
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![]() dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 ![]() |
^ not just you
but anyways; you know guys are painted naked too. at least the greek style ones... |
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![]() Call me Elsie Mae ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 936 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 207,655 ![]() |
hmm yes i always wondered why there's alot of girls nude instead of guys..
maybe it's a little difficult.. well.. i duno i'm not an artist.. so i wouldn't knoe.. |
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It's not sexist; it's just the artist's opinion on which figure looks physically better...the same way it wouldn't be opinionated if I were to sketch a green apple or a red one.
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*kryogenix* |
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![]() My name's Katt. Nice to meet you! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 3,826 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 93,674 ![]() |
So you'd rather see male genitalia displayed more often?
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 ![]() |
if i'm writing a book and the best point of view i can write in is that of a female so my books are pretty much from a female's pov, am I sexist? no. if i'm an artist and i see a certain beauty in one model but not the other, guess which model i'm going to paint?
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![]() unify and defeat... divide and crumble ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,759 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 6,379 ![]() |
There are plenty of nude male subjects in art, I know I've studied a shit load of them. It all depends on the artist's personal opinion of which subject is more in their interest, or they find pleasing to paint. Of course, personally I find the female body more pleasing to the eye, because of the way the curves are placed, and it's a much softer figure. However, I don't mind seeing the chiseled figure of a nude male in a painting once in a while either. Basically, there's no discrimination in art subject matter, because it's like asking "Why would people rather paint flowers than dust bunnies?"
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Sexist is a bit extreme, but I would still say women are more preferred.
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*xcaitlinx* |
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QUOTE(mai_z @ Aug 24 2005, 2:39 PM) There are plenty of nude male subjects in art, I know I've studied a shit load of them. It all depends on the artist's personal opinion of which subject is more in their interest, or they find pleasing to paint. Of course, personally I find the female body more pleasing to the eye, because of the way the curves are placed, and it's a much softer figure. However, I don't mind seeing the chiseled figure of a nude male in a painting once in a while either. Basically, there's no discrimination in art subject matter, because it's like asking "Why would people rather paint flowers than dust bunnies?" Well said. Sexisism is a function of stereotyping and discrimination. The choice of subject matter is not inherently sexist. |
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![]() dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 ![]() |
nudes are mostly renassaince. in the renaisance, (sexistly) artists were male. males generally wished to appear to think females are
ergo, female nudes. to which i have no complaint, but there you go. |
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QUOTE(GEEK iN THE PiNK @ Aug 22 2005, 7:28 PM) ok i know this is a weird topic to talk about. I am in art class right now and arguments have been going on and on and on about this topic. I just want to get different views. Lets now screw this up and act all silly and everything please. First of all, many men have been painted nude. In fact, men themselves were sculpted nude. Second of all, when a woman is painted nude, it doesn't mean something about sexism but a meaning of "art". It either meant something about how beautiful a woman is, or how their role in earth and history is important.. it really depends on the artist. |
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if u think about it, a penis is ugly when compared to the rest of the body
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^ that's true. it's been proven in studies that people prefer female bodies more (not that male bodies aren't beautiful in their way) because of the well rounded proportions. i mean, if you think about it, a woman has all her privates bascially covered up while a man has his penis just hanging there.
don't sweat it guys. i love your bodies. =) |
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its not sexist, womens bodies are considered beautiful and graceful.
and mens are well... not lol. it is wired how its like taboo though, to show a naked man. im talking about how we see naked women all the time in some R movies but u practically NEVER see a naked man. but hey im not complaining ![]() |
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![]() cB Assassin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 10,147 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,672 ![]() |
Men do get painted nude, I see plenty of them..
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i think women nude are more beautiful nude, now im not saying just because they are women, but women are more curvier then men, they are more beauitfully structured. they are vulupcious, and i am saying this from an artistic point of view, not purverted.
but i have seen alot of muscular men painted nude, but not showning their penises. and believe me i have been to a lot of art museums. |
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QUOTE(headphones @ Aug 22 2005, 6:21 PM) It might be just me, but I think the woman's naked body is..prettier than the guy's. Penises are really ugly. I'd have to agree with you on that as well. But there are some parts of the male body I do like to see. (; The female body is seen as a work of art. The male body really isn't. There are nude paintings of men, but I actually see more nude men in sculptures than woman. It's just what the artist sees as beautiful. |
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Its completely up to the artist.
And anyway, its well known that women are beautiful, and men are hairy and lumpy and shouldn't be seen by the light of day. |
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QUOTE(headphones @ Aug 22 2005, 8:21 PM) It might be just me, but I think the woman's naked body is..prettier than the guy's. Penises are really ugly. yeah exactly. Besides, I've seen a lot of nudes with men before. But overall they just arent as pretty. Females have loads and loads of curves. Soft round shapes are naturally more appealing. |
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![]() dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 ![]() |
you're right... this is sexist.
people who paint nude men should automatically be elligible for a grant from the government to subsidise thier art, this way, a 50/50 balance can be achived, and diversity is wanted by all. (sounds absurd? go ressurect the affirmative action thread.) |
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