Moderator Performance, V.1, Suggestions/Complaints/Compliments Options

[sadolakced acid]

^ i know. but i mean, when mods say things and refer to backstage, like if a member says an idea and a mod says "oh we talked about that backstage", that's not really going to tell the member anything other than (percieved) "you can't know what we said cus you're not a mod"

i know it's not that way, but if backstage is mentioned, then that starts to happen. not intentionally, but just because.

i think backstage either needs to go public (which isn't really viable), or fake a death.

if mods don't refer to backstage, it can't appear to members like an exclusive club.

[racoons > you]

now here's something to actually complain about.

why does everyone treat modship like an exclusive club?  it's like, i want to be a mod and be part of the mod team and post in the private forum!

i'm tempted to try to start an "anti-mod" team, with our own private forum which we will constantly refer to like "oh we posted that in the private forum, you should have know about it".  or a "you don't really understand because you're not part of the club."   except i've done enough mocking style satirical things to know they don't work, even if they are fun.

people complain about teams and such on cB.  but the ultimate team is the moderating team, with it's own private forum. 

ahh go yell at me about how i don't know what it's like to be a mod and how hard it is or something and how i don't know what goes on backstage so i can't really give an opinon.  s`alright.  i get it.  i'm not ' in the club' so i don't understand.

have i mentioned that i like him?

meh, though... although i agree with justin on principle, and i do think there are certain parts of 'mod business' in which non-staff should play a greater role, i personally would rather not have cb clutered with just another forum which talks about oversized sigs... i mean, members cant actually act on a sig that was reported, so why waste my time looking at it?

It's always been this way. There's always been a backstage and members can never see it.

by the way... that jus tseems like a really pointless argument... i mean, just because something has 'always bee that way' desnt necssarily mean its the best way of doing things... in this instance, i think it probably is, but just in general

2. Don't apologize. If you're that desperate, then you're desperate. Can't help that. We just don't think you should be a mod. Can't help that either.

umm... shouldn't you really be sayin, 'try harder to improve, then we will reconsider', rather than just telling him that he will never be considered worthy? surely he CAN help the way peope think about him, by following frankie's advice about being less irritating, rather than you just telling him to shut up

[whomps]

Who the hell treats modship like an exclusive club ? Member were the ones that found out about backstage first. Mods didn't tell.. why would they ? Don't tell me you think backstage should go public.. what's so wrong with having a forum only for mods ? Moderators run CB. It seems like you only feel inferior because you can't see it. Backstage isn't like some lounge. There are some things you just can't tell members. Jeez.

That's nearly one of the lamest things to complain about. Backstage.

[*mipadi*]

^ i know.  but i mean, when mods say things and refer to backstage, like if a member says an idea and a mod says "oh we talked about that backstage", that's not really going to tell the member anything other than (percieved) "you can't know what we said cus you're not a mod"

i know it's not that way, but if backstage is mentioned, then that starts to happen.  not intentionally, but just because.

i think backstage either needs to go public (which isn't really viable), or fake a death.

if mods don't refer to backstage, it can't appear to members like an exclusive club.

Every place of business has some sort of "backstage" where people conduct the business of the organization in private. It's a necessary part of any operation.

[gelionie]

Every place of business has some sort of "backstage" where people conduct the business of the organization in private. It's a necessary part of any operation.

I agree. It's not that just because the moderators are of similar ages as us and are voluntary will make members be able to interfere with the backstage at all.

I hope I phrased that right.

[racoons > you]

Every place of business has some sort of "backstage" where people conduct the business of the organization in private. It's a necessary part of any operation.

its true justin... come to think of it, you havent called for the editor's lounge to go public at CBNews...

[Spirited Away]

Every place of business has some sort of "backstage" where people conduct the business of the organization in private. It's a necessary part of any operation.

That's exactly what I'm saying. For some reason, people don't seem to grasp that.

Once again, curiosity is hardly a reason to be angry (and all other negative feelings) at mods for having backstage.

The only people who think moderator-ship is "exclusive" are those who are not moderators. We certainly don't see it that way. The reason why Frankie said "mod business is mod business" is the same reason people who are working towards a goal would say "our business is my our own". And so long as we're not spamming, creating havoc, or freaking out on members, I don't see why our business is anyone else's.

I'm sure everyone on this forum value some modicum of privacy, let us have ours.

[*disco infiltrator*]

^ Our business is my our own, Fae?

And James, Alvin said I don't do much and I'm not a good mod, obviously I'm not going to be in the best mood towards him. I have feelings too. I am a human.

Sorry, I'll be all sunshine and butterflies towards every person now cause I'm supposed to be a robot cause I'm a mod..

[racoons > you]

sorry, i'll be all sunshine and butterflies to every policy on CB because im not a mod...

GOD that james is so disrespectful. what an ass

[*disco infiltrator*]

That's the point..you don't have to. But that doesn't mean I won't be annoyed, just like you're annoyed with me. People get annoyed.

If he's talking about how I don't do anything and how bad of a mod I am, I'm going to say why I don't think he'll be a good mod.

And when did I say he'll never be worthy? I said we don't think he should be a mod..that would be present tense. Right now, that's our decision.

[Spirited Away]

^ Our business is my our own, Fae?

Shush, Sammi. It was fairly early in the morning.

[sadolakced acid]

` sigh.

i don't call for the solutions i 'offer'.

but when moderators answer questions like, "i posted it backstage, so don't complain about things you don't know about", that kinda instills the sense of an exclusive club.

please note:

- i know it's not a club.
- i know it can't be public
- i know it's essential
- i'm NOT calling for anything. i'm just pointing it out.

and all that blah de blah

but does anyone see my point? if it's constantly referenced, then it instills this feeling of exclusiveness?

[YourSuperior]

` sigh.

i don't call for the solutions i 'offer'.

but when moderators answer questions like, "i posted it backstage, so don't complain about things you don't know about", that kinda instills the sense of an exclusive club.

please note:

- i know it's not a club.
- i know it can't be public
- i know it's essential
- i'm NOT calling for anything.  i'm just pointing it out.

and all that blah de blah

but does anyone see my point?  if it's constantly referenced, then it instills this feeling of exclusiveness?

I see what you mean.

[Spirited Away]

but when moderators answer questions like, "i posted it backstage, so don't complain about things you don't know about", that kinda instills the sense of an exclusive club.
please note:
- i know it's not a club.
- i know it can't be public
- i know it's essential
- i'm NOT calling for anything.  i'm just pointing it out.
and all that blah de blah
but does anyone see my point?  if it's constantly referenced, then it instills this feeling of exclusiveness?

How about not thinking of it as "exclusive", just "privacy"?

[*tweeak*]

but does it matter if it feels a bit exclusive? if you're a good enough member, you can earn it as well. whining about things and spamming won't get you there, though.

[Paradox of Life]

Does it matter? Roxanne and all the other staff members are trying their hardest to improve cB. Whatever they think should be done, will be done. Whether or not it's discussed backstage exclusively shouldn't matter because if they really believe you should be promoted to be staff or something of that sort, it wouldn't be such a hard decision. There's a reason why everyone that applied isn't suddenly staff.

Sorry, that's just what I wanted to say.

And that dani#### child needs to be kicked out of staff. I don't understand why she's still on staff. She doesn't contribute to cB anymore than a regular member.

[YourSuperior]

Does it matter? Roxanne and all the other staff members are trying their hardest to improve cB. Whatever they think should be done, will be done. Whether or not it's discussed backstage exclusively shouldn't matter because if they really believe you should be promoted to be staff or something of that sort, it wouldn't be such a hard decision. There's a reason why everyone that applied isn't suddenly staff.

Sorry, that's just what I wanted to say.

And that dani#### child needs to be kicked out of staff. I don't understand why she's still on staff. She doesn't contribute to cB anymore than a regular member.

Well said Catherine. I totally agree with you 100% percent about Dani. She's like NEVER online.

[whomps]

` sigh.

i don't call for the solutions i 'offer'.

but when moderators answer questions like, "i posted it backstage, so don't complain about things you don't know about", that kinda instills the sense of an exclusive club.

please note:

- i know it's not a club.
- i know it can't be public
- i know it's essential
- i'm NOT calling for anything.  i'm just pointing it out.

and all that blah de blah

but does anyone see my point?  if it's constantly referenced, then it instills this feeling of exclusiveness?

i think backstage either needs to go public (which isn't really viable), or fake a death.

^That's what you want. And I've only see ONE moderator say that.

And we'll make our own decisions about removing staff. We have a policy.

[*tweeak*]

^seriously

Does it matter? Roxanne and all the other staff members are trying their hardest to improve cB. Whatever they think should be done, will be done. Whether or not it's discussed backstage exclusively shouldn't matter because if they really believe you should be promoted to be staff or something of that sort, it wouldn't be such a hard decision. There's a reason why everyone that applied isn't suddenly staff.

Sorry, that's just what I wanted to say.

And that dani#### child needs to be kicked out of staff. I don't understand why she's still on staff. She doesn't contribute to cB anymore than a regular member.

"Roxanne and all the other staff members?" so...I want it to remain like it is now? no. 'Fraid you're wrong again. Stop jumping to idiotic conclusions. I may sound mean and bitchy, but that's only because you push my buttons more than anyone. What you're saying isn't even a response to what I said. No, it has to be excluive. Just because one lives in America does not mean one has the right to know everything that goes on behind running it. Welcome to reality. You honstely make little sense. Of course not everyone who applies for staff doesn't get the position, and of course there are reasons why.However, some people can't grasp that concept no matter how many times we tell them why we won't mod them. *cough* No, we're not going to discuss the modding process of the entirety of cb. How much more stupid could that possibly be? we can't have simple discussiions peacefully, let alone improtant ones. It would get out of hand just like everything else, people would get their feelings hurt, people will quit, and no one in their right mind would want to join (except maybe someone like James, but that's beside the point). This may have made no sense. I don't know, it's late and i only get 4 hours a sleep a night these days and I can't even figure out what I'm rebutting

[Paradox of Life]

^ Actually, you are making little sense and knowing your nature, I just KNEW you were going to find some way to pick on me. I'm not going to suck up to you and sugarcoat anything. Truthfully, I'm losing patience with you and your arrogance as well. But considering I don't know you that well, I won't jump to conclusions.

I understand that she has a virus on her computer, but never in the 7 months I've been here has she ever seemed significant as a people staff member. She's done the least modding actions as well. There are several other people who deserve a modding position and are helping out more than she is as OFFICIAL or even REGULAR MEMBERS.

I don't understand why it seems you're always out to get me and that I seem to be such a nuisiance. But then again, I don't really care.

Edit//

And you're not that special. I'm not trying to contradict you as much as you try to contradict me. What I said had nothing to do with your replies. I said I was simply stating my opinion.

[*tweeak*]

I don't expect you to suck up to me. I just don't want you to argue with things for no apparent reason. No, we will not share modding discussions and other things that go on backstage, period. I honestly do not understand how people can want to become mods and then cannot seem to get along with them. Questioning authority is fine. Expecting to be rewarded by said authority for it is another.

Now, Justin, I respect you in many ways, but I cannot express how little I appreciate this whole "cb revolution" attitude that still continues even after you've dropped it. If you suggest ridiculous things like making backstage public, people will jump on the bandwagon and decide it's a good idea just because it seems to be in their favor. You of all people should be aware of this human nature, and so you really need to be careful what you start. No, Katt, none of this has anything to do with you

I'm not always out to get you. I'm an arguementative person, and if you cannot drop something, I will continue responding, because no matter how badly written it comes out, I likely will have a response. Maybe you've noticed, since you're so familiar with "my nature"?

I don't want to be villified. I try to be nice. I try to be a good mod. Just don't f**k with me. I'm quickly losing all pacience.

Oh, and while dani may be inactive, it's not your place to determine how good a mod she is or isn't. I don't either. I'm not so arrogant and self-richeous as you think.

I don't think you were here during the whole modding dani ordeal to begin with. Poor girl. I agreed with them to an extent, but I do know when it is or isn't my place make a big deal out of something that could actually be offensive to someone

In response to your edit, why did you quote me then? I assumed that since you were questioning something i said that you were, well, questioning something i said

oh, and i had nothing against you personally. i am a nonpartitian-disagreered. I just happen to disagree with you more often than i do most

[Pulchritude]

gosh its just a online forum...

LIGHTEN UP FOOO'S

[whomps]

gosh its just a online forum...

LIGHTEN UP FOOO'S 

Yeah, uh no. I believe we are all VERY aware this is an online forum.

[racoons > you]

katt... your not sugar coating everything would be amuch more effective tactic were you, in fact, right.

my take is this: i dont think dani should have been modded, and i've made that apparent numerous times.

HOWEVER

i dont think that calling for her to be demodded here is the best way to go about it... i dont support IN ANY WAY trying to drive people out of their positions by telling them they are shit, in manor of jeff or ashley

like eve said, the mods know who is doing a good job fulfilling the criteria they have set. true, this is a mod evaluation thread, and as such, you should say how you feel a mod is doing in their role.

however, once you have posted your snippet, just leave it, and let the admin/head staff take it into whatever degree of account they feel it deserves. dont continually type the same thing over and over when the only result will be to hurt feelings, and cause unnecessary resignations

i miss jeff.

*edit*

oh i jus tread that through, and it sounded to me like the whole thing was aimmed at katt. it wasnt, it was just in general after the first sentence

[toodlepops.]

I don't know if Brianna is on holiday, but I haven't seen her around lately.