9/11 movies Options

[*kryogenix*]

Oh man. They better not screw this up. Documentaries are fine (except for movies like Fahrenheit 9/11). If they make a love story, I'm going to be pissed. I have a feeling some of them are just exploiting 9/11. They better not have a political message. I have a bad feeling the Oliver Stone is going to screw this up. And if they bash the United States, or justify the attacks in any way, I'm going to be pissed.

[technicolour]

Question: What the hell are you talking about?

[*kryogenix*]

I guess you haven't seen the news.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2...11-movies_x.htm

Hollywood Studios are already making movies based on 9/11.

[technicolour]

AWW HELL NO!

Hollywood + anything political = Bullshit

[aera]

i like the documentaries, like the flight that fought back. but movies about it? i agree, it better not be some love story.

[sadolakced acid]

aww pooh. if you can let hollywood make a movie about the crucifiction of christ, let them make a movie about 9/11.

i, for one, hae been waiting for one, and i hope it pays tribute to the unsung heros (as well as the sung ones, you know).

[Looow]

I hope its not a love story. Come on.

[yellowgurl]

AWW HELL NO!

Hollywood + anything political = Bullshit

i agree.. they usually make something not really realistic to the issue

[illumineering]

Oh man. They better not screw this up. Documentaries are fine (except for movies like Fahrenheit 9/11). If they make a love story, I'm going to be pissed. I have a feeling some of them are just exploiting 9/11. They better not have a political message. I have a bad feeling the Oliver Stone is going to screw this up. And if they bash the United States, or justify the attacks in any way, I'm going to be pissed.

What are you complaining about? Michael Moore and Oliver Stone are nothing alike. I don't understand your beef w/ Farenheit 9/11. Why can't he make a documentary that's based on his perspective of the issue? If you don't like it, don't bring it up. Why are you anticipating being pissed? The film isn't even out yet. This seems more like a rant as opposed to a debatable issue.

[*kryogenix*]

The questions: 1) Are we ready for movies based on 9/11? 2) Do you think Hollywood is exploiting the issue?

What are you complaining about? Michael Moore and Oliver Stone are nothing alike. I don't understand your beef w/ Farenheit 9/11. Why can't he make a documentary that's based on his perspective of the issue? If you don't like it, don't bring it up. Why are you anticipating being pissed? The film isn't even out yet. This seems more like a rant as opposed to a debatable issue.

How can you not understand my beef with F. 9/11? It was a propaganda film.

If I don't like it, why shouldn't I bring it up? I'm warning people to look out for BS. And it's not like I said I'm not even going to give the film a chance. I probably will watch it to form my own opinion.
It's just that if the reviews say it's political, or it distorts what really happened, then I will not like it.

aww pooh.  if you can let hollywood make a movie about the crucifiction of christ, let them make a movie about 9/11. 

i, for one, hae been waiting for one, and i hope it pays tribute to the unsung heros (as well as the sung ones, you know).

How are you going to screw up the crucifixion of Christ, all the details are pretty much set in stone?

I don't mind a movie about 9/11. I'm looking forward to see National Geographic's documentary on it (They're spending 4 hours on it). But if any of these films warp the truth, it's not good. And the fact that Oliver Stone is behind the scenes in one of these movies worries me. They've announced that the film is not going to be political, but his JFK movie and some of the quotes he said after 9/11 scare me.

[illumineering]

The "truth" you refer to is a matter of perception. It's not a law of nature.

[*kryogenix*]

The "truth" you refer to is a matter of perception.  It's not a law of nature.

The truth is that the people who were in the towers were the victims. If he tries to suggest that the corporations inside were the true villains, would that not be false?

[illumineering]

The truth is that the people who were in the towers were the victims. If he tries to suggest that the corporations inside were the true villains, would that not be false?

No, it wouldn't. If the "attack" was meant for the corporations that the towers represent, the people would still remain victims as they were the unintended targets.

[*kryogenix*]

No, it wouldn't.  If the "attack" was meant for the corporations that the towers represent, the people would still remain victims as they were the unintended targets.

I think you misunderstood my post. Oliver Stone has justified 9/11 in the past by saying it was a stand against corporations. That is warping the truth. You cannot justify the attacks with that.

[The Voice]

How can you not understand my beef with F. 9/11? It was a propaganda film.

Every film that mentions America in it, on some level or another…is a propoganda film. The Captain America comic books were propoganda. This was simply one of the first times that a documentary was made opposing the current leader of our country. I'm not going to go into my stance on the film and it's merit..because that's irrelevant...but of course it's propoganda. The point of a documentary is to make someone see things from the perspective of the director/writer. He stressed his views, and take them how you like. That's the point of it. I also hope that they don't screw up the 9/11 movie. And you're right, with Oliver stone it's a possibility. I just pray that it's not another Pearl Harbor. Also, I think it's a bit premature to write the film...and for it to have any merit...because it seems like there is still a great deal of investigation ongoing. If they are to simply focus on the act itself, and the people who's lives were destroyed...that's fine...and on the firemen and police officers that sacrificed their lives...then once again...that's wonderful. But I hope it doesn't become a political thing. I hope that they don't make claims that will nto truly be proven or disproven for another 10 to 20 years.

[napoleon034]

What are you complaining about?  Michael Moore and Oliver Stone are nothing alike.  I don't understand your beef w/ Farenheit 9/11.  Why can't he make a documentary that's based on his perspective of the issue?  If you don't like it, don't bring it up.  Why are you anticipating being pissed?  The film isn't even out yet.  This seems more like a rant as opposed to a debatable issue.

well, the problem there is if a republican made a documentary on abortion, you'd hate that movie.

and actually, i agree with you, documentaries are strongly biased, and no one can change that. so no one should hate the documentaries, just the people who made them.

[SkaironFrenzy]

i bet they're going to say its g. bush's fualt. hmm... liberals.

[The Voice]

i bet they're going to say its g. bush's fualt. hmm... liberals.

See, and I assume that it's somehow going to try connect 9/11 to Iraq…and then through focusing on the hero aspect…attempt to make the whole movie into a recruitment drive. At least that's what I worry about. Hmm…conservatives.

[napoleon034]

See, and I assume that it's somehow going to try connect 9/11 to Iraq…and then through focusing on the hero aspect…attempt to make the whole movie into a recruitment drive.  At least that's what I worry about.  Hmm…conservatives. 

Recruitment drive for...George Bush? Soory, last time I checked, only two presidential terms are allowed.

[The Voice]

Recruitment drive for...George Bush? Soory, last time I checked, only two presidential terms are allowed.

Umm…I was talking about a recruitment drive for the military. I'm sorry, but I have no idea what you're talking about. I can assume to know, but I don't see where you got that idea from my post.

[*disco infiltrator*]

1. You may not like Fahrenheit 911, but it is true, from that perspective. You don't agree and that's fine. Michael Moore expressed himself. I roll my eyes when one of George Bush's speeches interrupts the Daily Show, but that doesn't mean whatever he says is untruthful - I just don't agree.

2. Many people will be ecstatic about the 9/11 movie, probably. It'll show the "heroes" in a good light, making them out to have saved millions of people or something. Personally, I don't think much heroism was done since so many people were not saved, and that may not be others' opinion but oh well, it's mine. It's a movie, of course it's not gonna show anyone but the terrorists in a bad light. That's what happens. Oh well. Don't go see it.

[zepfel]

just take the film with a pinch of salt... it's a film, so it's primary purpose is entertertainment, and since it's hollywood, it's going to try to appeal to as many people as possible without upsetting anyone.

so obviously, it will be crap, but does it really matter?

oh, and in response to the "exploiting 9/11" thing, every film has a story, some of them are true. people will watch if it's a famous story, but not so many people if the film's particularly bad. war films have been made about death, you could say schindler's list was exploiting nazi terror. i wouldn't.

[*kryogenix*]

Every film that mentions America in it, on some level or another…is a propoganda film.  The Captain America comic books were propoganda.  This was simply one of the first times that a documentary was made opposing the current leader of our country.  I'm not going to go into my stance on the film and it's merit..because that's irrelevant...but of course it's propoganda.  The point of a documentary is to make someone see things from the perspective of the director/writer.  He stressed his views, and take them how you like.  That's the point of it.  I also hope that they don't screw up the 9/11 movie.  And you're right, with Oliver stone it's a possibility.  I just pray that it's not another Pearl Harbor.  Also, I think it's a bit premature to write the film...and for it to have any merit...because it seems like there is still a great deal of investigation ongoing.  If they are to simply focus on the act itself, and the people who's lives were destroyed...that's fine...and on the firemen and police officers that sacrificed their lives...then once again...that's wonderful.  But I hope it doesn't become a political thing.  I hope that they don't make claims that will nto truly be proven or disproven for another 10 to 20 years.

If a documentary maker wants to make money from a documentary he's making, he'd avoid using misleading statements, controversy, and a political agenda.

Reading more into it, I don't think there will be any "Pearl Harbor" type films with a love story and what not.

  1. You may not like Fahrenheit 911, but it is true, from that perspective. You don't agree and that's fine. Michael Moore expressed himself. I roll my eyes when one of George Bush's speeches interrupts the Daily Show, but that doesn't mean whatever he says is untruthful - I just don't agree.

2. Many people will be ecstatic about the 9/11 movie, probably. It'll show the "heroes" in a good light, making them out to have saved millions of people or something. Personally, I don't think much heroism was done since so many people were not saved, and that may not be others' opinion but oh well, it's mine. It's a movie, of course it's not gonna show anyone but the terrorists in a bad light. That's what happens. Oh well. Don't go see it.

1. Fahrenheit 9/11 is pretty misleading, if not untruthful. Just type in fahrenheit 9/11 lies in a search engine. There are exaggerations and outright lies in that movie. The movie was made to push an agenda, not to educate the masses about an issue in an unobjective manner. The fact that it's helping the terrorists is even worse.

2. Again, I will repeat, I do not mind a 9/11 movie as long as it remains truthful and properly respects that day and those that died on it.

[The Voice]

If a documentary maker wants to make money from a documentary he's making, he'd avoid using misleading statements, controversy, and a political agenda.

I wish that were the case…but unfortunately, lies and fiction have always had a tendency to rake in more money than truth and honesty. I agree, that truth is key importance in documentaries…however, everyone has a different version of the truth. There is no absolute definate, universal truth...so someone will always view whatever you do with some level of skepticism. That's a huge difference between conservatives and liberals. They both look at the exact same thing, and see something entirely different. I'd personally like to consider myself a Star Bellied Sneetch. Oo Sorry, couldn't resist Dr Seuss.

[*mipadi*]

1. Fahrenheit 9/11 is pretty misleading, if not untruthful. Just type in fahrenheit 9/11 lies in a search engine. There are exaggerations and outright lies in that movie. The movie was made to push an agenda, not to educate the masses about an issue in an unobjective manner. The fact that it's helping the terrorists is even worse.

How is it "helping the terrorists"?