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Grand Theft Auto, Promoting Bad Behavior?
*mipadi*
post Jul 18 2005, 12:39 PM
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Drive illegally, that is.
 
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post Jul 18 2005, 01:09 PM
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show me a garden thats bursting to life
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Teaches you to drive wild and crazy like a maniac. Gees. I can do that without the video game thank you very much.
 
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post Jul 18 2005, 01:11 PM
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Well, no one can deny the fun level of the game.

I can't, at least.
 
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post Jul 21 2005, 03:11 PM
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tell me more.
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i just saw on the news that Grand Theft Auto San Andres isnt supposed to be sold to people under 18 or something. i dont really care because i dont play video games, but i dont think 10 and 11 year olds should be playing that one.
 
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post Jul 21 2005, 04:42 PM
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^Uh, I believe all M rated games aren't suppost to be sold to kids under 18. huh.gif
 
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post Jul 21 2005, 04:52 PM
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The new Grand Theft Auto is now rated AO (adults only).
 
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post Jul 21 2005, 04:55 PM
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it got pulled because of the hot coffee mod or somethin' i dont care cause i had that game along time ago. its fun, people that naver played the game are the ones that think its only about driving crazy and killing and hookers rolleyes.gif
 
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post Jul 21 2005, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Jul 21 2005, 5:55 PM)
its fun, people that naver played the game are the ones that think its only about driving crazy and killing and hookers  rolleyes.gif
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So what else is it about? What other tasks in the game are there, that don't require driving crazy or killing people?
 
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post Jul 21 2005, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 21 2005, 4:52 PM)
The new Grand Theft Auto is now rated AO (adults only).
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first one with that rating!


haha nice. it's a deathblow. no major retailer will stock it now. well, at least, walmart won't.

gotta get your GTA from online now.
 
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post Jul 21 2005, 06:05 PM
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The rating is M for mature, so you shouldn't play it if you're not mature, and if you're mature, that means you won't let it affect you.
 
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post Jul 21 2005, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 21 2005, 5:58 PM)
So what else is it about? What other tasks in the game are there, that don't require driving crazy or killing people?
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first of all GTA is a game not a how to guide to committing crimes.
what u need to think about is out of how many people that buy GTA, one of the most highest selling games in history, commited any crimes that they say they got the idea from the game. out of the the rest that didnt. rolleyes.gif
sry to tell u, ya cant blame crime on a game, marylin manson,rap music.


here are some comments that politicians and people like u made.
and here are the responses.


During a public hearing, Love held up a held up a copy of the popular game Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, in which a character named CJ goes on a barrage of shootings, heists and dalliances with prostitutes.

No he doesn't. The person playing GTA can choose to move CJ and chooses what CJ does, using the controller. CJ himself does not do anything. CJ can be a very civil citizen if the controller is in the hands of a person who wants CJ to be a civil citizen. Now in movies, which are completely different, a person cannot choose anything, and there a character named CJ might indeed go "on a barrage of shootings, heists and dalliances with prostitutes." In a video game however, CJ cannot do that unless the player wants to.

'Kids these days ... are wasting their spare hours ... with immoral trash like "Grand Theft Auto." As Sen. Hillary Clinton explained last week at a forum hosted by the Kaiser Family Foundation, "They're playing a game that encourages them to have sex with prostitutes and then murder them."

Hilarious Hillary. At this point I would like to quote a webmaster at GTANet: "You know I've played through that game twice now, and I've never ONCE picked up a hooker! Nobody does. It's just one of those small things that some people do when they're bored." Don't they just love to go on about the prostitutes? For heavens sake! I've played all three games in the franchise and I can safely say that the game is NOT about encouraging players to have sex with prostitutes and then murder them. A game encouraging such a thing does not exist.

As criminal Tommy Vercetti in the video game "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City," players roam 1980s Miami killing, stealing and hiring hookers in search of drug money.


ARE YOU KIDDING ME??
GTA Vice was NOT about "roaming Miami," killing hookers in search of drug money. You weren't searching for anything. You were performing jobs for the underground and earning money. "Killing, stealing and hiring" hookers did not take place. There even is no stealing hookers in the game. The day that these people will play GTA and stop talking out of their backsides will be the day that I calmly sit on my couch and lay an egg.

Have a nice day.
im gonna play gta now
 
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post Jul 21 2005, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Jul 21 2005, 7:07 PM)
here are some comments that politicians and people like u made.
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The reason why your argument ad hominem is amusing is because you accuse me of making comments that I don't believe I ever made. You also seem to assume that I have never played the game, which is also grossly inaccurate. While I don't play them often, simply because they are not my style, I certainly don't find games like GTA to be disgusting (for players of the appropriate age range). However, I think we should stay clear of arguing that there is more to GTA than killing and violence, because really, there isn't a whole lot more. You can make the argument that the violence isn't dangerous to a player of age, a statement with which I wholeheartedly agree, but the fact is that it's still there, and that's definitely a focus of the game.

A tip, though: you shouldn't make assumptions about a person in a debate, or attribute to them statements that they never made.
 
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post Jul 22 2005, 12:22 AM
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If I'm old enough to get drafted, I'm old enough to buy a GTA, gotdamnit.
 
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post Jul 22 2005, 12:13 PM
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How stupid. Games rated 'M' are directed toward people 17 years of age and up.

Games rated 'AO' are directed to people 18 years of age and up.

The ESRB is truly saving our moral youth by doing this... rolleyes.gif
 
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post Jul 22 2005, 12:38 PM
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An AO rating is much worse than M, actually. Most retailers, like Wal-Mart, for example, will sell M-rated games; but almost no retailers will sell AO-rated games. One report suggests that Rockstar's parent company, Take Two, stands to lose $500 million over the recent GTA scandal.
 
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post Jul 22 2005, 12:42 PM
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ya he's right^
my dad works for Best Buy and he said they wont sell it again.
on mtv news they said the sex sequence was no worse than thatn anything you would see on late night cable or a rated R movie. rolleyes.gif
 
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post Jul 22 2005, 12:57 PM
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but the difference between a movie and a videogame is in a video game YOU make the action. the character on the screen is YOU.

a movie is lucky if you even sympathise with the charaacter on screen.


so the 12 year olds playing GTA who download the hack that opens up the sex scene- the twelve year old is thinking "i'm having sex"

the 12 year olds who download porn are thinking "that guy's having sex"

see the differnece?
 
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post Jul 22 2005, 01:13 PM
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but the 12 year olds wouldnt jack off to the grand theft auto sequence. lol
but who knows. rolleyes.gif lol
the point of that is that they still wouldnt see it as real. because i know when i was 12 i wouldnt be aroused by video game sex,and i knew less about sex than any of my friends. we were all 12 once would you be all corrupt by it.lol
it wouldnt make me any less or worse of a person to see it. and besides i wouldnt even have a clue of how to get to that sex scene.( i still wouldnt) if i wanted to see a sex scene then i would of just pulled out some movie or somethin'.
i dont think u can control CJ in the sequece can you?
they're making grand theft auto harder to access than porn.
why didnt they do this with "State of Emergency" that game was totally only about killing and much more gorey.
 
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post Jul 22 2005, 01:32 PM
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No, you do control the main character. It's a mini-game. Something happens when you make him hit the "excitement" bar high enough.
 
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post Jul 22 2005, 01:51 PM
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lmao thats sounds fun^ well i didnt know that. lol
but how do u even get the sequence? most people dont know how to get to it anyway. lol
 
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post Jul 22 2005, 01:57 PM
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it was an impossible to get to mini game on the PS2.

then the PC version came out an people figured out a hack.

you download it and it's unlocked for you.
 
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post Jul 22 2005, 02:05 PM
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then why are they taking off all versions?
 
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post Jul 22 2005, 02:15 PM
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Because the ESRB gave them an AO rating for putting that content in the game.
 
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post Jul 22 2005, 02:16 PM
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but its not in the ps2 and xbox versions. why didnt they just take the pc version?
 
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post Jul 22 2005, 02:19 PM
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It is is in the PS2 and Xbox versions, too, but it's just not (as easily) accessible.
 

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