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[*disco infiltrator*]

Well then, like I already said, they can keep it off the forums or put it in humor if it's supposed to be so humorous.

[J-DraGoNz]

^ Indeed.
When you're with friends, don't tell me you never clown on your friend. Is that "friend bashing"? C'mon guys, seriously, I can see and atleast understand the basis of everyone's point of view but do you really dislike hip hop so much in that you have to be so blatantly against battling? I'm usually not one to assume but I think some of you are just using the "member bashing" as an excuse to get rid of the threads because of the fact you are just hating on emcees/rap.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Um, that's not why I'm saying it..

We just don't want a lot of negativity on the forums. Even if you're just joking, others might take it seriously and be mad at Person A for saying something bad about Person B, etc. Yea..

I'm not against hip-hop or rap, even though I don't usually listen to it..I do listen to Missy Elliot, Kanye West, and Ciara on occasion, though. I'm just saying..

To me, this is the definition of member bashing:

Directly insulting a member by name, including name-calling, racism, discrimination, etc.

According to that definition in my little brain, the rap battles constitute as member bashing. If you guys just like, did on AIM or something, there wouldn't be a problem at all..

[melface]

People are thinking this through way too deeply. If the mods don't want it in writing... then it's up the to mods to move it. If you don't want this so called "member bashing" then delete every thread that contains member bashing... I suppose then we wouldn't have this problem, right?

[*disco infiltrator*]

I'm not the one who closed them; people are wondering why they were closed, though, and I'm explaining why it's considered to be member bashing by some people. I don't think that form of member bashing is that big of a deal though; like, it's not that offensive..

[racoons > you]

sammi, i didnt say when someone insulted someone, i said when someone takes offenseat something meant lightheartedly.

two different things

[*disco infiltrator*]

...Offensively? I don't know what offenseat means.

[racoons > you]

yes.

no clue what happened there. wow.

sorry

[Paradox of Life]

Bah whatever. I'm backing out of this. I still think it's stupid but I'll keep my opinions to myself and I just won't read them.

[*basick*]

To me, this is the definition of member bashing:

Directly insulting a member by name, including name-calling, racism, discrimination, etc.

According to that definition in my little brain, the rap battles constitute as member bashing. If you guys just like, did on AIM or something, there wouldn't be a problem at all..

Or maybe you just don't want the writing forum clouded with these stupid topics. I said this many times, the point of a rap battle is to degrade and humiliate your opponent, whethere your opponent is your friend or a stranger. It's just like sports, you try and beat the opposing team. Both sides know not to take it personally because it's the point of the battle, and I think the people who are against it because of "member bashing" are the same people who don't understand hip hop culture or don't like rap music.

[*disco infiltrator*]

If the point is to humiliate and degrade someone, that is member bashing, whether you want it to be or not.

[*basick*]

If the point is to humiliate and degrade someone, that is member bashing, whether you want it to be or not.

No it's not. There are topics in forum games called, "diss the member above you", 'burn", and "say something positive or negative about the person above you". It's all in good fun. When you play an individual sport, the point of the game is to beat your opponent. I won't say you hate rap, but maybe it's an unfamiliarity with hip hop culture. Are we supposed to be unintellegent to the point where we do not recognize the difference between an offending statement and a playful war of words? Isn't that what debate is all about anyways?

As long as both parties involved in the battle agree to the battle, there should be no problem. While the spectators might take it as member bashing, the participants do not take any offense. If it is an diss to a member for no reason, then it should be closed. Like when Jason make a member about Jordan in lounge for no reason and Jordan not knowing about it, if a member made a topic in writing like that it should be closed. I admit that the writing in these battles are subpar but since when are topics in writing closed because the content in it is not the greatest? I think that is more offending than a "rap battle" anyways.

[wayne]

Oh well. As if I give a damn if it's a freestyle or not. And quite frankly, I don't know why I'm wasting my time here either, but I have a lot of free time, so why not? Alright then, I'll give constructive criticizm, but I can't help but be a little mean in my responses. I won't bitch about actually closing the topics, but I can almost assure you, there will not be one rap that'll impress me. I know I sound really arrogant, but it's the truth. For me at least. What can I expect from Jason and DJ? The "rap artists" here on CB... 

if anyone has a problem with the freestyling on hte boards... then say hello to my lil freind...




no point it crying over a thread... get out the house instead of crying over a rap battle thread...

[*basick*]

I apologize for wayne's stupidity.

[wayne]

^^ LMAO

[*disco infiltrator*]

No it's not. There are topics in forum games called, "diss the member above you", 'burn", and "say something positive or negative about the person above you". It's all in good fun. When you play an individual sport, the point of the game is to beat your opponent. I won't say you hate rap, but maybe it's an unfamiliarity with hip hop culture. Are we supposed to be unintellegent to the point where we do not recognize the difference between an offending statement and a playful war of words? Isn't that what debate is all about anyways?

As long as both parties involved in the battle agree to the battle, there should be no problem. While the spectators might take it as member bashing, the participants do not take any offense. If it is an diss to a member for no reason, then it should be closed. Like when Jason make a member about Jordan in lounge for no reason and Jordan not knowing about it, if a member made a topic in writing like that it should be closed. I admit that the writing in these battles are subpar but since when are topics in writing closed because the content in it is not the greatest? I think that is more offending than a "rap battle" anyways.

And all of those are in forum games. So everyone understands it's just a game. When someone posts something in Writing, it's meant to be a serious, thought-out artistic piece. Not something that's meant to be a joke.

[*basick*]

And all of those are in forum games. So everyone understands it's just a game. When someone posts something in Writing, it's meant to be a serious, thought-out artistic piece. Not something that's meant to be a joke.

What about a diss track that is deep, thoughtful, hard hitting, creative, and funny?

[*disco infiltrator*]

If someone actually wrote a rap that wasn't part of a battle meant for fun, then yes, it would belong in Writing. However, from what you people have explained to me, rap battling is a game meant to make people laugh. Here:

My dad is such a loser. He's just a big boozer. He only likes his beer. We talk and he can't hear.

That rhymes, but is that an artistic venture? No, it's just a rant insulting my dad. It's meant to either make people laugh at my dad or entertain people with my complaining. If I posted that in Writing, would you agree that it should be there?

[*basick*]

However, from what you people have explained to me, rap battling is a game meant to make people laugh.

Rap battling is an integral part of Hip-Hop which involves quick thinking and writing abilities. Calling it a "game meant to make people laugh" ... SMH. SHAKING MY HEAD. Punchlines are meant to induce humor at the expence at your opponent, but it is not a "whoever tells the funniest joke" event. Maybe Jason and Dejay don't realize it, but line structure, multi - sylabble rhyming, using double meanings, and flipping the other person's words are just as important as humorous punchlines. It's much more than rhyming two words.

Topics in writing shouldn't be deleted because of the quality of the piece. If a joke in humor is not funny at all, it won't be deleted. If a recipe in food tastes nasty, it won't be deleted. If a outfit you make in fashion is horrible looking like Ciara at the BET awards, it won't be deleted.

[xquizit]

No. Putting the Rap Battle threads in the Humor or Game forums would be an insult. I'd much rather keep them in the Writing forum.



How about this, next time you create a Rap Battle thread, add some rules and a disclaimer. One of the rules should be that members are not to post in the thread unless they're participating. This is to prevent the "oh, he's such a loser" posts that are considered to be member bashing. The disclaimer should warn participants that insults and member bashing will be involved and that they shouldn't take offense. When two people agree to battle, they must agree to these terms.

[*CrackedRearView*]

I think Roxanne and Steven shut it down.

Shut what down?!

It's already over; we've stepped down.

Have your fun. I don't care any more.

[Spirited Away]

The disclaimer should warn participants that insults and member bashing will be involved and that they shouldn't take offense. When two people agree to battle, they must agree to these terms.

But Roxanne, even if the two agree to their own madeup terms, the community guidelines state that no member bashing is allowed. Are we to tolerate the bashing if people involved do not take offense to it? What I mean is, are we making this an exception?

[*basick*]

But Roxanne, even if the two agree to their own madeup terms, the community guidelines state that no member bashing is allowed. Are we to tolerate the bashing if people involved do not take offense to it? What I mean is, are we making this an exception?

So then would a playful insulting comment towards another member in any other thread constitute as member bashing as well? Both parties know it is a joke but spectators might think you are bashing. I see it happen all the time.

[xquizit]

But Roxanne, even if the two agree to their own madeup terms, the community guidelines state that no member bashing is allowed. Are we to tolerate the bashing if people involved do not take offense to it? What I mean is, are we making this an exception?

You're right. But both parties can agree to take it as lighthearted fun as James put it.

[Spirited Away]

So then would a playful insulting comment towards another member in any other thread constitute as member bashing as well? Both parties know it is a joke but spectators might think you are bashing. I see it happen all the time.

You're right. But both parties can agree to take it as lighthearted fun as James put it.

But playful bashing doesn't take a whole thread. If that kind of thread exists, then you know as well as I do that it's closed, with the exception of the member hate thread because that is strictly monitored.

As you can see, not only is there a "diss" one, but a "diss two" thread exist for the sole purpose of "battling", which is a form of member bashing. If I happen to start bashing Justin by making a thread, and say that we're just having a friendly battle, wouldn't that be closed? I mean:

1) it's a waste of space
2) it's pointless thread wasting
3) it may contain obscenity
4) it would be bashing

all of which are against the community guidelines, as you can see. Maybe I'm just not understanding this very well.