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 Jul 11 2005, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE "We did everything we could to hold our fire," McDonnell said. i agree, thats CACA!That's  poor little girl.. why did they fire SO many shots ? if they had to absolutley KiLL the man, why not one clear shot to the head or something ? 300 , 30 or 3 were not need, but thats only in my opinion. |
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Jul 11 2005, 05:56 PM
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Bay Area YadadaDiiiig. Group: Official Member Posts: 4,249 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 103,202 |
QUOTE "We did everything we could to hold our fire," McDonnell said. i agree, thats CACA!That's poor little girl.. why did they fire SO many shots ? if they had to absolutley KiLL the man, why not one clear shot to the head or something ? 300 , 30 or 3 were not need, but thats only in my opinion. |
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Jul 11 2005, 06:11 PM
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 Hi! I'm Dani :) Group: Member Posts: 5,637 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,369 |
Oh my gosh that's so wrong. I feel sorry for the kids mother.
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Jul 11 2005, 06:13 PM
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A police officer should never shoot if there's a child in the line of fire
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Jul 11 2005, 06:57 PM
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 dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
a man has a shotgun and a 9mm automatic pistol. he has his 17 month old todler and starts shooting at the police. what the f**k are the police supposed to do? just stand there and let him shoot him?
with handguns, you don't just shoot once. he may still be alive, and will probably still be able to shoot. you make the decision to take out someone with a gun- you fire as many shots as you can. i'd like to see everyone who says the police did wrong to be given a gun, and have someone start shooting at them. are you sure you'd hold your f**king fire? |
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Jul 11 2005, 07:29 PM
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 dakishimetainoni... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,322 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 75,318 |
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 11 2005, 1:50 PM) 1. if someone is high and is running at you shooting with a gun, is it unreasonable to shoot back, even if he's using a shield? 2. 300 shots isn't a lot. probably 3 seconds to get that many. 27 rounds in a magazine; probably 15 or so officers if you start shooting, why stop? if you didn't kill him, he has a gun and will shoot you.  i completely agree...they didn't just go "hey this dude is annoying, let's kill him," they tried talking to the man for HOURS but that didn't work. you can't help it if someone puts another person's life in danger. the man kept firing off his gun, if the police didn't try to stop him he could've taken many lives. including his little girl because he obviously did not care about her welfare when he used her as a shield. i hate it how the woman is probably going to sue for millions, it's just ridiculous. money isn't going to make your daughter come back and if you really, truly felt bad about the incident how are you going to bring yourself to spend that money? |
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Jul 12 2005, 02:54 AM
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 Wife of Legolas Group: Member Posts: 1,290 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 10,190 |
*shrugs*
i say, can't blame the police honestly, you cannot have a diognised man waving a gun around. it's a 'you die, or i die' situation. besides, they paid their debt. They're going to live with it for the rest of their lives. but the kid.. damn, that's so unfair! >=[ unfair unfair unfair unfair unfair unfair! |
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Jul 12 2005, 04:14 AM
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It was just one of those un-necessary mistakes that the police had to overcome.
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Jul 12 2005, 05:52 AM
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he was using his baby as a freakin shield?!
 geez, what do fathers do these days? why did they shoot 300 shots? that's not right. by the way, I never read that. where did you find it?
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Jul 12 2005, 08:24 AM
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 boo Group: Member Posts: 5,512 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 71,765 |
Well, the father should've saved his child rather then being a chicken and using the toddler as a shield.
Plus, if the officer knew there was a child, why the hell did he comtinue shooting? |
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Jul 12 2005, 11:35 AM
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Also, it's unknown whether it was a police bullet or the father's bullet that killed the child.
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Jul 12 2005, 11:48 AM
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 RiKACHANtEL Group: Member Posts: 3,876 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 51,230 |
oh i heard about this yesterday...so damn sad
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Jul 12 2005, 12:01 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE(BrokenDream @ Jul 12 2005, 5:52 AM) he was using his baby as a freakin shield?! geez, what do fathers do these days? why did they shoot 300 shots? that's not right. by the way, I never read that. where did you find it?300 shots aren't a lot if there were 30 policemen. |
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Jul 12 2005, 12:18 PM
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don't police have bullproof vests? An intoxicated man with a crappy little handgun shouldn't do THAT much damage. Why didn't they try to taser him or send in a team to surround the guy and shoot him from behind where it might not harm the child or shoot him in the foot so he dropped the kid? Something?!
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Jul 12 2005, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE([Mediocre]Artist @ Jul 12 2005, 12:18 PM) don't police have bullproof vests? An intoxicated man with a crappy little handgun shouldn't do THAT much damage. Why didn't they try to taser him or send in a team to surround the guy and shoot him from behind where it might not harm the child or shoot him in the foot so he dropped the kid? Something?! So quick to judge. It is not our place to make judgements on this issue, yet so many people do. You weren't there. I wasn't there. Therefore, I give the police the benefit of the doubt. And even still, you didn't even bother to read. If you did, you would have seen: "The man had a 9 mm handgun and a shotgun and was intoxicated on drugs and alcohol, police said." A shotgun! That's lethal force. |
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Jul 12 2005, 12:32 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE([Mediocre]Artist @ Jul 12 2005, 12:18 PM) don't police have bullproof vests? An intoxicated man with a crappy little handgun shouldn't do THAT much damage. Why didn't they try to taser him or send in a team to surround the guy and shoot him from behind where it might not harm the child or shoot him in the foot so he dropped the kid? Something?! imagine you're wearing a bulletproof vest. hang on... you relize it's a vest, right? waist down, neck up, sholders out aren't protected. what would happen if a man shoots a shotgun at the head of someone with a bullet proof vest? and a bullet proof vest isn't like, bullets just bounce off of you. it's like the bullet hits you. and cuts into the vest. and pushes in a grapefruit size hole in you. the bullet stays lodges, your body bounces back, but is heavily bruised. |
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Jul 12 2005, 12:33 PM
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He was drunk! And high! I've got relatives that can't shoot someone standing right in front of them when they're "intoxicated"! I guess if this guy somehow had the ability to accurately shoot under those conditions, then fine - The cops can kill him. He'll rot in hell anyway for using a human (toddler at that) shield. *shrug*
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Jul 12 2005, 12:36 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE([Mediocre) Artist,Jul 12 2005, 12:33 PM]He was drunk! And high! I've got relatives that can't shoot someone standing right in front of them when they're "intoxicated"! I guess if this guy somehow had the ability to accurately shoot under those conditions, then fine - The cops can kill him. He'll rot in hell anyway for using a human (toddler at that) shield. *shrug* he doesn't have to hit a cop. he has to hit any random person within firing distance. if he was firing towards like... 5 civilians, the cops would fire regardless of the girl. triage. minimize losses. |
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Jul 12 2005, 12:48 PM
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mood: content Group: Member Posts: 2,063 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 42,325 |
That poor baby, how can someone use a baby as a shield??! I'm not a baby-fanatic myself, but it's just a baby, c'mon.
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Jul 12 2005, 03:12 PM
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Sad society hahahah.
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Jul 12 2005, 03:30 PM
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omg that is so sad..another life wasted
cops should held their fire tsk tsk |
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Jul 12 2005, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(quyen101 @ Jul 12 2005, 3:12 PM) Sad society hahahah. What The F? QUOTE omg that is so sad..another life wasted cops should held their fire tsk tsk And have more lives killed? |
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Jul 12 2005, 05:15 PM
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Jeebus.
 That horrible. |
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Jul 12 2005, 06:33 PM
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300 shots? unbelievable!
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Jul 12 2005, 06:34 PM
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Eh, the police didn't really have a choice, but 300 shots is beyond crazy.
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