Christian Propaganda Options

[bebopspike14]

what if the bibles were translated by false christians? like, king james, who wanted to use it to conquer a country?

The holy spirit, I again say, serves to check this in those translating the bibles, and those reading this. Thus, christians with a real relationship with god would have no problem in defering between what is a false bible.

people shouldn't vote based on their religion.

Yes. Every day people shouldn't. But Chrisitians should, so that god may have his way with our country.

people shouldn't believe certain things because their pastor tells them.

True. Thats why Real christians don't.

[*disco infiltrator*]

i don't want god to have his way with my country. o_o

[strice]

just wanted to clear up that percentage thing. this is from the CIA world factbook.
Protestant 52%, Roman Catholic 24%, Mormon 2%, Jewish 1%, Muslim 1%, other 10%, none 10% (2002 est.)
76% is high, but it's not 90.
crazymonkey really is crazy.

[lbjshaq2345]

weaker ppl are the ones that r easily swayed because they need something to depend on to lean on to give them some support because they are too weak to believe they can survive w/o help 90% of america obviously doesnt believe in God or christianity because we as a nation are growing stronger and growing away from God i'm not saying we need to be weaker but i do think we should come closer to God cuz America is goin to hell as it is and i'm not the best example but at least i can admit that the way i live is wrong

[*Libertie*]

Pastors aren't using their religious standings to make sure people HAVE to vote one way. They are comparing what the BIBLE says to what the ELECTION PEOPLE say. [the people who are running.] Pastors = church = Christianity [in this case] = Bible.

And what exactly non religious things are they doing? They aren't doing anything wrong.
I'd love to know about this too.

That's what I'm saying, though! My pastor IS telling us that we HAVE to vote one way in order to get into heaven. If you think he's not doing anything wrong, then you must agree with him in that if I don't vote for someone who is against abortion and gay marriage, then I'm going to hell. It apparently doesn't matter that I've lived my entire life being the best Christian I can be. Apparently living a Christian life without wanting to meddle in other lives just isn't good enough.

I think telling me that I won't get into heaven because I stand up for something that I believe is right is a sin in itself, and I believe that he will be held accountable for every person he turned away by using this method of teaching.

Oh, and something I forgot to mention.. I didn't fly off the handle; I simply emailed asked my pastor to cite his source for his 90% claim. He responded with this link:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6650997/site/newsweek/

Apparently he took this article way out of context. It shows how many people believe in Christianity, but does not say anywhere what percentage actually practices the religion. Here are some more accurate and more recent links:

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0102-06.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_prac2.htm
http://www.leaderu.com/ftissues/ft9610/reeves.html

I looked these over and included more than one link to make sure I don't appear biased. On average, he's off by about 10-13%.

Anyway, I don't want us to lose our tempers here; we obviously both know what we're talking about and I'm in no way trying to insult your intelligence.

[bebopspike14]

i don't want god to have his way with my country. o_o

Too bad. God wills it. (snigger snigger)

That's what I'm saying, though! My pastor IS telling us that we HAVE to vote one way in order to get into heaven.

Then this being the, case, just go to a different church or something. That's a bad pastor.

Christians often forget that people have choice. Yes, they should be confronted, and yes, they do need to be save from spiritual damnation, but we can't force people to do things like that because then there is no faith.

[Spirited Away]

Too bad. God wills it. (snigger snigger)

Really? And here I thought He gave us free will.

[technicolour]

That's what I'm saying, though! My pastor IS telling us that we HAVE to vote one way in order to get into heaven.

Did he REALLY say this? Vote for Bush or YOURE GOING TO HELL!! Or did you mis-interpert something?Just wondering..

Apparently he took this article way out of context. It shows how many people believe in Christianity, but does not say anywhere what percentage actually practices the religion. Here are some more accurate and more recent links:

Christianity is based on BELIEF. I BELIEVE that Jesus is my savior. etc etc..

But yes, the 90 percent is a little whacked up.

[Mulder]

Yes. Every day people shouldn't. But Chrisitians should, so that god may have his way with our country.

and why exactly, should god have his way with our country? so even though a christian presidential candidate may be the worst president in history, all christians should vote for him because hes christian? or were u being sarcastic? i just woke up, i cant really tell the difference.

[technicolour]

and why exactly, should god have his way with our country? so even though a christian presidential candidate may be the worst president in history, all christians should vote for him because hes christian? or were u being sarcastic? i just woke up, i cant really tell the difference.

Honey, God isn't going to have his way with the country. He's going to have his way with the world. Revelations, but then again there is a while other thread saying that's propaganda as well.

No one is saying we should just vote for him cause he's christian. he stands for christian beilefs, [the no abortion and gay marriage stuff].

[sadolakced acid]

2006, roy moore plans to run for alabama governor. and i'm going to be too young to vote against him, and by a few months only. that sucks.

roy moore is an example of religon gone bad. he's compromised his state, and cost the state half a million dollars or more for fines and court fees that the state had to pay. he used his political influence for religious reasons- opposite of her pastor.

both her pastor and roy moore crossed the line between church and state. they believe, because they're christian, that they can do this. please tell me, can they? do you believe this country should be christian?

[technicolour]

Ok. I'm willing to hear you out if I could get a full story. Thats just little bits and pieces.

[*Libertie*]

Did he REALLY say this? Vote for Bush or YOURE GOING TO HELL!! Or did you mis-interpert something?Just wondering..

He literally said in last week's sermon that he believed that anyone who didn't vote for Bush in this past election is in true danger of being sent to hell and needs to seriously rethink his or her life.

Christianity is based on BELIEF. I BELIEVE that Jesus is my savior. etc etc..

But yes, the 90 percent is a little whacked up.

Yes, true, but many of those who were surveyed could have believed those things without necessarily practicing the ideals. It goes both ways; belief is the foundation, but a Christian can't live a worldly life. But you know this already, I'm just clarifying my point. I just think he should do his research a little better.

[technicolour]

Ok. Your pastor's a d**k. He is using his "voice" a little too far. That is political bullshit. We've been arguing about all the wrong things. but THAT is taking it over the top.

[*Libertie*]

Then, we both agree that he was out of line. I just hope that there aren't other pastors out there like him.

[technicolour]

That is WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY outta line. No one has the RIGHT TO SAY THAT. Off with his head.

My pastor doesn't directly say that. I know one who does though, but he usually puts the auditorium to sleep in like a minute. he's so boring.