Creation or Evolution?, Which do you believe in? |
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 Apr 17 2004, 11:20 AM
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 Quand j'étais jeune...  Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272  |
QUOTE How do you know something made god? How else would he exist in the first place? 
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Apr 17 2004, 01:34 PM
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 Mr.Politicly Incorrect Group: Member Posts: 579 Joined: Sep 2005 Member No: 8,405 |
Hmmmmm wow...its been awhile since i came to see what ppl been sayin and it looks really interesting what ppl have said..
oOyunieOo...look up the book HyperSpace by Michio Kaku.....it really interesting and says how they think that god maybe even be a voice in the 10th dimension.....its interesting if you can follow it but i dont think you woukld have ne problems.....and i have to say i agree with what you sayu totally.....its really interesting...... |
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Apr 22 2004, 01:59 AM
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 uhm, yeah... Group: Member Posts: 65 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 2,270 |
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Apr 22 2004, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE I'm just saying that everything is created by something and that something is alos created by another and it just goes on. Because if god was just there, why is he just there? Who made him in the first place? IF he just appeared, then who made him appear? Its like: the following is true the previous is false never ending cycle. But now think outside of the cycle. I just wrote that meaning it was created even though it never has a beginning or end. Complicated I agree....In my own opinion, I think the establishment called religion is just a way for the world to cope with what they dont know. Who tells a person that they must have a religion...generally it's their parents, who in turn get it from their own parents. This is how religion has survived for so long. When you ask a religious person about evolution, the main source of their answers are from the bible. Apparently there is an answer for every question. I once asked a friend "there is evidence of Dinosaurs dating back to millions of years, but yet , according to the bible the world is only thousands of years old?".....He responded by telling me about the seven days of creation..which wasnt really seven days but years and years of creation. The Bible has many fallacies that ordinary people like myself fail to see, yet the theory of evolution can be accounted for. We cannot ask the question of "who created God?"...the answer falls well beyond our comprehension, because nobody knows if He really exists. It's all a matter of faith, as some people would say. A philosopher said "God is not tangible, God has no judgement, God has no emotions. He is only a manifestion of one's mind and social well-being". And...nobody knows if Heaven exists...only the dead. So basically, there's no way in proving that. So...i guess I'm on both sides, though im leaning more towards evolution. My belief in a higher power was established by my parents when I was a young child, but now, as an adult I see things differently. I no longer pray everynight before going to bed, but I guess everyone grows out of that. I rarely think about God when I go through my daily routine, though I know someone is there, but I don't know who. It's just hard to believe that everything around me is the result of a single "person", and not a long process that took millions of years. Just my opinion... 
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Apr 22 2004, 09:55 PM
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Mr.Politicly Incorrect Group: Member Posts: 579 Joined: Sep 2005 Member No: 8,405 |
Wow its rare that i agree with someone like that but i have to say i do agree with that last comment.....i do strongly believe in evolution....that just how i am i have never been able to believe in something i could never see.....i never really believed in santa after the age of 5...Sad i kno but that is just how i am...im the Odd ball of the family.....As for a believe...i believe that there maybe a high power yes....but i feel that all people have to believe in is there self....if you feel you can do nething...and you believe you can do nething....well then you can...do what ever you set your mind to....Many people as a hole have a fear of dealin with the unknown...that is why so many people do not like the idea of government spending soo much money on space exploration....because that dont kno....but until you see something and experience it you'll never kno for sure.....Evolution can be seen all around us....ei. The Galapagos Islands......evolution is always happening there.....it happens all around us we just never pay enough attention to it...it happens fast sometime...sometimes so slow you never realize it.....but its there......On way to how that all liveing creatures came from a common ansestor...is by researchin Embryology....at about 2 weeks into the brith cycle all embryos look the same...Human, Fish, Lizard, Mammals, Birds.....they all have Gill slits and a Tail....then there genes kick in and they develop into different organisms.....Life is interesting always changing...Forever changing....we can only hang on for the ride and enjoy the time we got.....
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Apr 23 2004, 12:43 AM
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 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 233 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 10,543 |
God created me and you and you and you and you and you *takes a breath* and you .. nd so on
of course i beleive in CREATiON .. kuz i love God!! |
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| *Kathleen* |
Apr 27 2004, 08:00 PM
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Yes, but we're questionning his very existence in this topic.
 The points in this topic are getting repetitive. 
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Apr 27 2004, 08:03 PM
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do you evolutionists really believe you came from apes?
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| *Kathleen* |
Apr 27 2004, 08:08 PM
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Haha...evolutionists...umm...yes, they would believe we came from apes...but in a sense, we all evolved from one organism. Um...why do you say "do you really"?
 We are 98% related to them by DNA. Is that not proof enough? At least that you can prove...you can't prove creation. All you have is a book you are made to belive in. Oh well, I'm repeating myself...I said I was before...I am now...
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Apr 27 2004, 08:14 PM
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 We are the cure. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,936 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,456 |
QUOTE(v@por @ Apr 27 2004, 9:03 PM) do you evolutionists really believe you came from apes? do you sheep always think inside the box and believe in a nonexistent being that supposedly created everything, ever though we have never seen him, have never heard from him? the only proof we have is the bible, and that's questionable. |
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Apr 27 2004, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(v@por @ Apr 27 2004, 6:03 PM) do you evolutionists really believe you came from apes? Do you creationists really think that you came from something made of nothing but energy? Really now, no matter what the bible says, creation is still more farfetched than evolution. There's just isn't any proof. So that leaves you with what? faith? And when you stack up faith against hard genetic facts, what then? Here's another thing to think about: If Adam and Eve were the first ever humans, then that makes everybody related. So basically everyone's going to hell because everyone's committing incest. Sucks huh? - Chinkieeyedpnoi |
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Apr 27 2004, 08:36 PM
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 Mileage Runner Group: Member Posts: 1,316 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 9,458 |
Since I believe in God, I've been debating this in my head and it came to the result of.....
...don't care, we're here, we're living. The end. |
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Apr 27 2004, 08:36 PM
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We are the cure. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,936 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,456 |
here's something else.
we refer to god as a male, right? but doesnt being male mean you have a penis? oh no, im going to hell. but one would think, are there any women angels up there that are just a liiiitle provacative? what would he exactly do with a penis? 
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| *Kathleen* |
Apr 27 2004, 08:40 PM
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Haha...nice theory, Nick.
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Apr 27 2004, 08:48 PM
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 Anime Freak Group: Member Posts: 247 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 12,476 |
evolution all da way baby! dont believe in those stuff w/ god and stuff. im atheist
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Apr 27 2004, 08:50 PM
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We are the cure. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,936 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,456 |
QUOTE(waccoon @ Apr 27 2004, 9:36 PM) here's something else. we refer to god as a male, right? but doesnt being male mean you have a penis? oh no, im going to hell. but one would think, are there any women angels up there that are just a liiiitle provacative? what would he exactly do with a penis? addon, wouldn't god having sex be a sin? since he's not married? or does god have his own set of rules? you know, since hes the ruler of everything, and can make everything and anything happen. so god, strike me down. that is, if you exist. |
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Apr 27 2004, 08:52 PM
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Mr.Politicly Incorrect Group: Member Posts: 579 Joined: Sep 2005 Member No: 8,405 |
QUOTE(v@por @ Apr 27 2004, 9:03 PM) do you evolutionists really believe you came from apes? Nobody ever came from apes.....first thing ne good Biologist will tell you bout evolution is that Humans, and apes have a common ancsestor...not that we evolved from apes.....Evolutions works on the basic principle that when part of a population of one species is isolatied from the rest it adapts to that....it changes....evolution is that progression of adaptations that worked...if they didnt work that creature died....adaptions inturn start as genetic mutations.....and extra chromosome...or a mix up in the DNA sequence....if the mutation works you pass it on to your children and they inturn with have it and so one.....its basic genetic variation Now on the topic of if there is a "God" or not......im sorry but someone needs to stick up for the Christains.....it may not be what they want to her bout its what they are goin to hear....Over the last few years since bout 1995 scienctist have discovered about 13 dimensions....now before you go sayin its sci-fi shit...its not.....you are raised thinkin we live in a 3d world...well you are tought wrong....we live in a 4d world.....they never used to teach you that Time or Space-Time is a Dimension we cna measure...look at your watch....Well there are Scientist that are theorizing that "God" Maybe a Voice inthe 10th dimension that passed through some how......This can be tied into the bible in the fact that if we hear the voice of god we would be destroyed or what not....well if the 10th Dimension theory is correct...well then that statement in the bible is too....we as 3-4d creatures which ever you prefer....but we can not persieve a higher dimensional being...so in a sence the bible is right but in many more its wrong.... |
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| *Kathleen* |
Apr 27 2004, 08:53 PM
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You know...in The DaVinci Code, they say that Jesus was actually married to Mary Magnolin (sp? haha yeah I haven't read it yet, but I know stuff about it), and there are even clues in DaVinci's artworks to prove he was hinting at that. So...if Jesus was married, is he not a regular human?
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Apr 27 2004, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ Apr 27 2004, 6:53 PM) You know...in The DaVinci Code, they say that Jesus was actually married to Mary Magnolin (sp? haha yeah I haven't read it yet, but I know stuff about it), and there are even clues in DaVinci's artworks to prove he was hinting at that. So...if Jesus was married, is he not a regular human? Kathleen, that book's fiction though. I'm reading Breaking Da Vinci's Code right now. It's by another author, its about the facts and such. - Chinkieeyedpnoi |
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| *Kathleen* |
Apr 27 2004, 09:00 PM
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Yeah, but who says it's not based on true things?
 Hmm...Breaking DaVinci's Code...when did that come out? |
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Apr 27 2004, 09:36 PM
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We are the cure. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,936 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,456 |
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Apr 27 2004, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(waccoon @ Apr 27 2004, 7:36 PM) Wanna bet on that coon? - Chinkieeyedpnoi |
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Apr 27 2004, 11:23 PM
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 i'm susan Group: Official Member Posts: 13,875 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,029 |
omq seriously i cant stop makin` banners... pls dont stop me im havin` fun hahha
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Apr 27 2004, 11:30 PM
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 Liv's Secret Lover *shhhh* Group: Member Posts: 201 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,229 |
I believe in creation...
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Apr 28 2004, 12:07 AM
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 I <3 Kirby Group: Member Posts: 652 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,421 |
i personally believe in creation by God, but at school im taught about evolution...
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