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Prayer In School, are you against or for prayer in school
Should There Be Prayer In School?
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chelle
post Mar 23 2004, 10:37 PM
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ok. so i'm doing an english project for school on the oh so controversial topic of prayer in school. and since we LOVE to debate ( biggrin.gif ) i was wondering what everyone's stand in this is.

Pro School Prayer Positions:
1)Our Government is based on Religious Principles
2)The Free Exercise Clause Protects School Prayer
3)Banning School Prayer Leads to Moral Decline
4)Majority Should Rule

Anti School Prayer Positions:
1)State-Sponsored School Prayer is Unconstitutional
2)Prayer in School is Already Legal
3)State-Sponsored Prayer Will Lead to Religious Intolerance
4)Moral Decline and School Prayer are Unrelated
TO SEE THESE ARGUMENTS IN DEPTH GO HERE


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i am against school prayer. big surprise. happy.gif lol. public schools exist to educate, not to proselytize. children in public schools are a captive audience. making prayer an official part of the school day is coercive and invasive. what 5, 8, or 10-year-old could view prayers recited as part of class routine as "voluntary"? religion is private, and schools are public, so it is appropriate that the two should not mix. our schools are for all children, whether catholic, baptist, quaker, atheist, buddhist, wiccan, jewish, agnostic. the schools are supported by all taxpayers, and therefore should be free of religious observances and coercion. when religion has invaded our public school system, it has singled out the lone jewish student, the children in the minority. families who protest state/church violations in our public schools invariably experience persecution. it was common prior to the court decision against school prayer to put non-religious or nonorthodox children in places of detention during bible-reading or prayer recitation. the children of supreme court plaintiffs against religion in schools were beaten up on the way to and from school, their families subjected to community harassment and death threats for speaking out in defense of a constitutional right. we know from history how harmful and destructive religion is in our public schools. individual, silent, personal prayer never has and never could be outlawed in public schools. it is coercive for schools to schedule worship as an official part of the schoo day, school sports or activities, or to use prayer to formalize graduation ceremonies. such prayers are more "mandatory" than "voluntary." the radical school prayer amendment would negate the first amendment's guarantee against government establishment of religion. most distressing, it would be at the expense of the civil rights of children, america's most vulnerable class. it would attack the heart of the bill of rights, which safeguards the rights of the individual from the tyranny of the majority. those in the minority would be compelled to conform to a religion or ritual n which they disbelieve, to suffer the humiliation and imposition of submitting to a daily religious exercise against their will, or be singled out by orthodox classmates and teachers as "heretics" or "sinners" for not participating. should the government become "prayer police"? the school prayer debate seems calculated to deflect attention away from the more pressing economic questions facing our nation. some politicians like to blame everything bad in america upon the absence of school prayer. it is a quick fix. it is irrational to charge that the complicated sociological problems facing our everchanging population stem from lack of prayer in schools. our political system is a democratic republic in which we use majority vote to elect certain officials or pass laws. but, we do not use majority vote to decide what religion, if any, our neighbors must follow. imposing prayer-by-majority-vote is flagrant and insensitive abuse of school authority. such schools should be teaching students about the purpose of the bill of rights, instead of teaching them to be religious bullies.
 

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chelle   Prayer In School   Mar 23 2004, 10:37 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(baller30 @ Jun 13 2005, 7:10 PM)actuall...   Jun 13 2005, 09:34 PM
suddenly she   i believe in creationism and natural selection at ...   Jun 16 2005, 11:19 PM
sammi rules you   mr. baller, how old are you? just wondering since ...   Jun 13 2005, 09:34 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jun 13 2005, 9:34 PM)...   Jun 13 2005, 09:41 PM
sammi rules you   well i'm just wondering cause if he's like...   Jun 14 2005, 10:57 AM
ghetosmurph   i support prayer in school, not as like you must s...   Jun 15 2005, 10:10 AM
sammi rules you   ^ a moment of silence is one thing. a moment of pr...   Jun 15 2005, 01:26 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(ghetosmurph @ Jun 15 2005, 10:10 AM)on ...   Jun 16 2005, 09:56 PM
vehvih   Before 8th grade, I studied in an all girls privat...   Jun 19 2005, 10:40 PM
broken inside   NO. I don't need some religious freak teacher ...   Jul 23 2006, 07:42 PM
aubbob.   were required to have 'chapel' every other...   Jul 25 2006, 11:32 PM
gt3k145   I will be if I am forced to. If I were to get in t...   Jul 26 2006, 09:43 AM
Evil_One1   Absolutely not. If you want to pray in school, go ...   Jul 31 2006, 10:46 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(Evil_One1 @ Jul 31 2006, 7:46 PM) A...   Mar 10 2007, 03:41 AM
Teenage Mutant Ninja Meg   you want prayer? go to a bloody church. it's r...   Aug 2 2006, 07:51 PM
just_rissa   Of Course! Everyone should be saved!   Mar 10 2007, 03:48 AM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 10 2007, 2:41 AM) Tha...   Mar 10 2007, 08:02 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Mar 10 2007, 5:0...   Mar 10 2007, 10:28 AM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 10 2007, 9:28 AM) I k...   Mar 10 2007, 04:21 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Mar 10 2007, 2:2...   Mar 12 2007, 02:19 PM
I Viddy Horrorshow   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 10 2007, 3:28 PM) I k...   Mar 10 2007, 06:02 PM
Stuckie   When America first started out, public schools wer...   Mar 11 2007, 05:40 AM
I Viddy Horrorshow   ^ When America first started out, black people wer...   Mar 11 2007, 09:13 AM
Stuckie   QUOTE(I Viddy Horrorshow @ Mar 11 2007, 9...   Mar 12 2007, 03:29 AM
I Viddy Horrorshow   QUOTE(Stuckie @ Mar 12 2007, 8:29 AM) Tha...   Mar 12 2007, 04:38 PM
RAWRstephishere   Not a memorized prayer that everyone has to say. T...   Mar 11 2007, 11:25 AM
I Viddy Horrorshow   ^ well, yes, but a moment of silence and a declare...   Mar 11 2007, 12:17 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   The moment of silence still pisses me off.   Mar 11 2007, 02:23 PM
I Viddy Horrorshow   ^ Personally, any excuse to put my head down and s...   Mar 11 2007, 03:33 PM
JakeKKing   First of all, why was prayer in public schools to ...   Mar 13 2007, 01:32 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 13 2007, 11:32 AM) ...   Mar 13 2007, 03:18 PM
I Viddy Horrorshow   ^ How is a government which takes sensitivity into...   Mar 13 2007, 01:52 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(I Viddy Horrorshow @ Mar 13 2007, 2...   Mar 13 2007, 05:28 PM
I Viddy Horrorshow   Yea, I know about JI. And actually, they can be i...   Mar 13 2007, 05:35 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(I Viddy Horrorshow @ Mar 13 2007, 3...   Mar 14 2007, 02:44 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(I Viddy Horrorshow @ Mar 13 2007, 6...   Mar 14 2007, 11:33 AM
I Viddy Horrorshow   Yes, i know that, which is why i asked specificall...   Mar 14 2007, 08:19 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(I Viddy Horrorshow @ Mar 14 2007, 6...   Mar 14 2007, 02:48 PM
I Viddy Horrorshow   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 14 2007, 7:48 PM) I r...   Mar 15 2007, 11:03 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(I Viddy Horrorshow @ Mar 15 2007, 9...   Mar 15 2007, 04:04 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 15 2007, 5:04 PM) Hah...   Mar 15 2007, 06:19 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 15 2007, 4:19 PM) W...   Mar 15 2007, 09:27 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 15 2007, 10:27 PM) Ye...   Mar 20 2007, 06:59 PM
I Viddy Horrorshow   ^ Yea, that's what I thought you were getting ...   Mar 14 2007, 11:34 AM
JakeKKing   Okay, girls...Let's not fight here. Let's ...   Mar 15 2007, 08:37 AM
tooeffingcrazy   Against. Leave the praying for the church. Not e...   Mar 15 2007, 07:52 PM
tooeffingcrazy   QUOTEI don't see myself as being religious. I ...   Mar 20 2007, 12:43 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(tooeffingcrazy @ Mar 19 2007, 10:43...   Mar 20 2007, 01:54 AM
Kipani   I voted I don't care, because I could really g...   Mar 20 2007, 05:07 AM
tooeffingcrazy   QUOTEReligions have rules, I just go by what the B...   Mar 20 2007, 06:41 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(tooeffingcrazy @ Mar 20 2007, 4:41 ...   Mar 21 2007, 02:30 AM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 21 2007, 3:30 AM) Tha...   Mar 21 2007, 05:42 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 21 2007, 3:42...   Mar 21 2007, 06:16 PM
one_and_only   ^um..have you ever cracked open a bible? the bible...   Mar 20 2007, 06:56 PM
Arjuna Capulong   Ok, to bring the question to a more extreme point,...   Mar 21 2007, 06:40 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 21 2007, 4:40...   Mar 21 2007, 07:42 PM
one_and_only   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 21 2007, 4:42 PM) Yep...   Mar 22 2007, 06:10 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(one_and_only @ Mar 22 2007, 4:10 PM...   Mar 22 2007, 09:36 PM
kimmytree   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 22 2007, 10:36 PM) Ye...   Apr 9 2007, 07:13 PM
one_and_only   ^no b/c there's yet another verse in the bible...   Mar 21 2007, 07:18 PM
tooeffingcrazy   Not to seem totally rude, but it seems as if we...   Mar 21 2007, 11:06 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(tooeffingcrazy @ Mar 21 2007, 9:06 ...   Mar 21 2007, 11:20 PM
happykmd   ^ Same. But I think its only a small percentage of...   Mar 22 2007, 06:12 PM
GhEtTo_DuChEsS   I really don't care, ppo gotta do what they go...   Apr 9 2007, 04:21 PM
Jamwllms   If people want to pray, let them pray. If they do...   May 24 2007, 07:54 AM
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