Koran, The word of God..... what do you think? |
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 Oct 4 2004, 03:20 PM
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 Quand j'étais jeune...  Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272  |
QUOTE(laila @ Oct 4 2004, 2:57 PM) u wanna know bout islam? cuz none of u have the least bit clue wat ur talkin bout. hit me up w/ur AIM s/n and if u wanna know seriously wat its all bout ill let u know. none of watever bs yall are comin up with. I would've taken your invitation if you hadn't been so rude about it. |
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| *kryogenix* |
Jun 2 2005, 08:49 PM
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Jun 2 2005, 10:47 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
I'm begining to think that interpreting the Bible is like kind of like analyzing art. The similarities here is that you can't pin the exact answer because everything is so "metaphorical" and that such and such people didn't have a word for such and such so they have to make due with simplified words. So, there can't be an exact truth, just interpretations that can sway every which way. If I said I like eating pie, a non-English speaker could interpret it to be "I like cake" if they didn't know the word pie existed. However, pies and cakes aren't the same thing and cannot be substituted no matter how you look at it. Interpretations, though, go a long way.
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Apr 14 2005, 1:55 PM) We can have a Scripture duel all day/month/year/lifetime and it will beget nothing because virtually any interpretation of the Scripture can be made (especially) about the earth being flat, or not so flat.
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Jun 2 2005, 11:19 PM
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 dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
who's to say god can't refer to himself in third person?
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Jun 2 2005, 11:24 PM
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first of all...its Qu'ran. Second of all, anyone wants to know anything about it, ask me, i was actually born in Iran (middle east)
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Jun 2 2005, 11:27 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(JC4P @ Jun 2 2005, 11:24 PM) first of all...its Qu'ran. Both Koran and Qu'ran are acceptable in English. And you should just debate the first post in this thread. It's the one that boasts about contradictions in the Koran. |
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Jun 2 2005, 11:28 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE(JC4P @ Jun 2 2005, 11:24 PM) first of all...its Qu'ran. Second of all, anyone wants to know anything about it, ask me, i was actually born in Iran (middle east) i thought Koran and Qu'ran were both correct spellings... they sound the same... anyways; could you explain: 1. who physically wrote the Koran 2. if it's really suppose to be the direct word of god 3. has it ever been rewritten thanks.' |
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Jun 3 2005, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 2 2005, 11:28 PM) i thought Koran and Qu'ran were both correct spellings... they sound the same... anyways; could you explain: 1. who physically wrote the Koran 2. if it's really suppose to be the direct word of god 3. has it ever been rewritten thanks.' 1. Muslims believe that the Angel Gabriel revealed the Qur’an to the Prophet Muhammad on numerous occasions between the years 610 and before Muhammad's death in 632. In addition to memorizing his revelations, he then recited them out loud to his educated companions, who then recorded it. These recordings where organized in to what we call the Qur’an. 2. Yes, Muslims believe that the Qur’an is comprised of the direct words of God. Witch where revealed to the prophet Mohammed through the Angel Gabriel. Muslims consider the Qur'an with extreme respect; they keep it on a high shelf, and wash their bodies before reading the Qur'an. That is the reason many riots where held in Afghanistan and other Muslim countries protesting the unearthly practice of detention officers in Guantanamo bay. Flushing Qur’ans down the toilet is not a just interrogation method. I'd expect the US to be the first ones to understand that. 3. No, the Qur'an available today is the same as that revealed to Prophet Muhammad and by him to his followers, who memorized his words. Any more questions please don’t shy on asking. |
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| *kryogenix* |
Jun 3 2005, 02:27 PM
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i have a question about jihad.
what is the concept behind it? |
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Jun 3 2005, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 3 2005, 1:27 PM) i have a question about jihad. what is the concept behind it? Jihad, from what I'm gathering, seems like a plan for dominating religions (and ultimately, the world) with the Muslim faith.  CLICK HERE AND READ |
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Jun 3 2005, 06:59 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
no.
jihad is not 'holy war'. its a struggle for the faith. like, if christians were called upon to defend the vatican... stuff like that. |
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Jun 3 2005, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 3 2005, 5:59 PM) no. jihad is not 'holy war'. its a struggle for the faith. like, if christians were called upon to defend the vatican... stuff like that. So using Jihad as a polical tool is just like W saying that our actions in Iraq is for the good of Christianity? |
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Jun 3 2005, 10:06 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Jun 3 2005, 7:32 PM) So using Jihad as a polical tool is just like W saying that our actions in Iraq is for the good of Christianity? err... yes, if W said that it was every christian's duty to fight there. jihad is, to my understanding, missued from it's original intent. |
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Jun 4 2005, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE who's to say god can't refer to himself in third person? Agreed. It's God, he can do whatever he wants. QUOTE jihad is, to my understanding, missued from it's original intent. Many, many things (especially when it comes to religion) are misused. |
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Jun 9 2005, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(karrar @ Jun 3 2005, 11:25 AM) That is the reason many riots where held in Afghanistan and other Muslim countries protesting the unearthly practice of detention officers in Guantanamo bay. Flushing Qur’ans down the toilet is not a just interrogation method. I'd expect the US to be the first ones to understand that. The flushing of pages of the Qu'ran down a toilet did not happen. The report in Newsweek was incorrect. |
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Jun 9 2005, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 9 2005, 11:54 AM) The flushing of pages of the Qu'ran down a toilet did not happen. The report in Newsweek was incorrect. That's what they want you to believe. |
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Jun 9 2005, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(karrar @ Jun 9 2005, 1:47 PM) That's what they want you to believe. you can make any conspiracy theory you want, doesn't mean people are going to believe you. Newsweek should have checked their facts before printing a story. The fact is though, some people did mishandle the Koran (I believe the pentagon admitted that there was a soldier that stepped on the Koran), but they were not under orders to, and this is not the United States against Islam. It's a few people who have no respect. The riots are completely out of line. http://angrypatrioticbastard.com/entMedia.html <--- this guy is very extreme on this issue, but he makes some good points. |
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Jun 9 2005, 03:47 PM
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umm where are you getting these Quran lines , do you have a Quran or did you just get it of some faulty website..?
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Jun 9 2005, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(saysaydaplay @ Jun 9 2005, 3:47 PM) umm where are you getting these Quran lines , do you have a Quran or did you just get it of some faulty website..? He admitted to clicking on the first ainti-islam site he found on the net. |
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Jun 9 2005, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(karrar @ Jun 9 2005, 5:51 PM) He admitted to clicking on the first ainti-islam site he found on the net. Oh ok ..I didn't see it ...I was about to get really mad 
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Jun 9 2005, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(karrar @ Jun 9 2005, 2:47 PM) That's what they want you to believe. Fine--there's no evidence any of that happened. |
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