war in iraq Options

[Spirited Away]

I seriously think that the US should just keep out of other nations businesses. Why should we help other countries when we have so many problems here already?

Because we can't leave those problems alone.

United States is no long independent. We used to be in isolation during WWI/WWII and many went against engagement in the Wars, but since then, United States is no longer self-sufficient.

Since the two WW, US has become one of the world's largest debtors. We now depend on globalization to keep our economy stabilized, therefore, the world's problem is our problem.

[juliar]

Because we can't leave those problems alone.

United States is no long independent. We used to be in isolation during WWI/WWII and many went against engagement in the Wars, but since then, United States is no longer self-sufficient.

Since the two WW, US has become one of the world's largest debtors. We now depend on globalization to keep our economy stabilized, therefore, the world's problem is our problem.

Aiya, why does the world's problem have to be ours? Why not, instead of killing fully grown people, we spend some money to help the homeless. Put our money to a better use? We depend on others for others to live, yet we are "independent"?

[Spirited Away]

Aiya, why does the world's problem have to be ours? Why not, instead of killing fully grown people, we spend some money to help the homeless. Put our money to a better use? We depend on others for others to live, yet we are "independent"?

Umm, we do have welfare and there are many organizations that helps the homeless. If you care about them, then why not devote yourself to that cause, I know I do. I don't expect the governement to do everything.

What's your definition of better use? I say that keep Americans safe from Terrorist groups and putting prevention measures agaisnt them are pretty darn good uses.

[juliar]

Umm, we do have welfare and there are many organizations that helps the homeless. If you care about them, then why not devote yourself to that cause, I know I do. I don't expect the governement to do everything.

What's your definition of better use? I say that keep Americans safe from Terrorist groups and putting prevention measures agaisnt them are pretty darn good uses.

First, we should take care of all the knots in our society. All those innocent jailers, everything. Then, we kill terrorists.

[x0xcrzybabyx0x]

haha okay..
first of all.. we are NOT and i repeat NOT in iraq to "help" ive said this before and i'll say it again.. were in there for oil.. if america cared sooo much and really wanted to help the world there are SO many other places in this world that could use our help WAY more than iraq. but do u want to know why were in iraq? because they have something we want.. oil. geez.. bush used september 11 to his advantage to get into iraq. ... he was going to go in there anyway and 9/11 gave him a reason.. man oh man. sometimes this country disgusts me.

[Spirited Away]

First, we should take care of all the knots in our society. All those innocent jailers, everything. Then, we kill terrorists.

innocent jailers? sorry i'm confused...

but i like your way of thinking about those terrorists .

[Spirited Away]

we are NOT and i repeat NOT in iraq to "help" ive said this before and i'll say it again.. were in there for oil.. if america cared sooo much and really wanted to help the world there are SO many other places in this world that could use our help WAY more than iraq. but do u want to know why were in iraq? because they have something we want.. oil. geez.. bush used september 11 to his advantage to get into iraq. ... he was going to go in there anyway and 9/11 gave him a reason.. man oh man. sometimes this country disgusts me.

name some of those places that we can help out, and i'll tell you whether or not we've tried.

it's no phenomenon that US is looking out for its own best interest,

every country

is there for their own best interest. That's why NATO is nervous about US involvement and that's also why France is angry at the US.

okay, so maybe that much oil in one place is really turning on our greed demons. but i'm sure i'll not be the only one freaking out if i wake up one day to find the price of oil has sky-rocketed.

And it disgusts me when people only look at the bad side of government.

[x0xcrzybabyx0x]

haha.. alright.. *sigh* .. here we go again..

name some of those places that we can help out, and i'll tell you whether or not we've tried.

okay like any country in africa! ..

okay, so maybe that much oil in one place is really turning on our greed demons. but i'm sure i'll not be the only one freaking out if i wake up one day to find the price of oil has sky-rocketed.

if we dont want high gas prices then we can look for alternate ways to run cars.. like hydrogen etc.. if we stopped using all of our money in iraq maybe we could use that money to put in research for alternate ways..

And it disgusts me when people only look at the bad side of government.

im not only looking at the bad side of our government.. i mean yes in this situation of the war in iraq yes.. of course i am because i disagree COMPLETELY with it.. but in other ways i think our goverment is great..

[Spirited Away]

okay like any country in africa! ..

Funny that you mentioned Africa, because that's one of the most obvious places that US have helped. It makes me wonder if you keep up with the news much.

Well, off of my head, there are American programs in Africa to help contain AIDS and to provide for those in poverty. A friend, who's studying med, is getting sponsor to go to Africa for her internship to help in those organizations.

Have you ever heard of the American Red Cross? Do you know about their extensive involvement in Africa?

Yea, I realize that usually private charity organizations are the ones to help out, but do you realize that if we do not have a democratic government, none of that would be possible? If our government is so bad, then it wouldn't consider lending a helping hand at all.

if we dont want high gas prices then we can look for alternate ways to run cars.. like hydrogen etc.. if we stopped using all of our money in iraq maybe we could use that money to put in research for alternate ways..

Sure, we can do all that, and ignore the immenent danger of terrorism.

im not only looking at the bad side of our government.. i mean yes in this situation of the war in iraq yes.. of course i am because i disagree COMPLETELY with it.. but in other ways i think our goverment is great..

oh, okay, sorry i misunderstood you there for a moment.

[*Kathleen*]

first of all.. we are NOT and i repeat NOT in iraq to "help"

Adding to what Aiya (that's your name, right?) said...Okay, so you think we're just in there to get oil, huh? Catching Saddam Hussein wasn't helping our country? Extracting all of that dictator's power from that country isn't helping? If that's not helping, I don't know what is.

[tkproduce]

okay, let's admit it

level of importance from an individual person's point of view:

family and close relatives>friends/distant relatives>friends' friends etc.>people from your own country.... and so on. Starving people in Africa and wounded innocent civilians in Iraq are pretty low down on this list.

Most of us are too busy worrying about the people around us and couldn't care less about people that we don't know about. That's just human nature and I'm not saying there's anything wrong about it because sometimes that's the way I feel. I mean, we could sit on our asses in front of a computer and argue about the morals of having or not having a war all day in this forum, but how many of us are actually going to do anything about it? If someone did, what are the chances of him/her making any difference?

[*Kathleen*]

Well, if I could, I would vote, and that would be doing something about it. Or, last year in school, we helped troops out by sending care packages to them. Schools everywhere are helping out our troops, and is that not doing something about it? Being active in your community, actually speaking up to things about this is doing something about it. What do you mean? Every person makes a difference!

[m@dcow]

we started it why?

[*Kathleen*]

Umm...to defend our country from Saddam...for one...

[kevinma03]

Umm...to defend our country from Saddam...for one...

Iraq didn't pose a tactical threat to the US. it was mostly to Israel

[*kryogenix*]

okay.. right george bush wants americans to be safe? dang its sad how blind people can be to the truth..
remember when he said that there was weapons of mass destruction in iraq? right.. remember how many weapons of mass destruction we found.. thats right..zero.. we have 1000's of weapons inspectors in iraq theres NO WAY they wouldnt be able to find them if they were REALLY there.. the bush administration is lying to the people.. do u not see that? crazy kids..
you want to talk to me about bush wanting people to be safe.. yea.. click this.. then we can talk..

wow. this animation was so incorrect! It was wrong from the beginning! it said the first nuclear war was fought in 1991. is the author forgetting hiroshima and nagasaki?

depleted uranium is made from the used control rods in nuclear power plants. it is much less radioactive than normal uranium. it is used in munitions because it is very dense, so it can pierce through enemy armor. they emit alpha particles, which are very weak and do not travel very far. clothing can stop the beta particles and the number gamma particles emitted is too low to cause real harm. ONLY IF THE DEPLETED URANIUM IS INGESTED IT WILL HARMFUL. the reason it is ingested is because of Iraq's poor water grid. if saddam was not such a ruthless dictator, he would have focused on domestic problems instead of invading Kuwait. let's not forget he used weapons of mass destruction on iraqi citizens. that could be a reason for the deformities. As for Kosovo, what did George Bush have to do with that?

Clearing up the myths of Depleted Uranium
http://www.ntanet.net/traprock.html
http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/faq_17apr.htm

Saddam did not let the inspectors in Iraq initially. The question is not whether or not there are WMD's. It's where are the wmds. there was proof of wmds in Iraq. the wmd's could even be in Syria or sold on the black market.

YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO CALL ME BLIND.

[edit] You refer to us as kids, but you are younger than me. i also didn't notice that you gave up because you are too stubborn to accept the fact that you may be wrong and even if there is a lot of proof against what you say, you irrationally hold on to your views. it's a shame you'll probably never read this post, you could have learned a lot from it.

[Spirited Away]

Iraq didn't pose a tactical threat to the US. it was mostly to Israel

that was before we realized that sadam had connections with terrorist groups.

[dasturbd]

"Dictators" cause a threat to everyone, everywhere

[tkproduce]

"Dictators" cause a threat to everyone, everywhere

so should we get rid of Bush as well? lol. just joking

[immersion31]

i support it

[dasturbd]

well this was a nice little debate here, but I think we've reached the end of this stalemate.

It's nice to see people voice their opinions and oppositions...whether or not I personally agree with them is not the point. The fact that we can even voice our opinions openly like this without worry of someone stepping in and stoning us for our views, is a wonderful asset of being "free"...just remember that.

One thing...
x0xcrzybabyx0x
I might suggest you don't go by everything you hear or have been told, but do some research and form your own opinions. You refer to us as kids, but I am triple your age. Don't be disrespectful just because others simply don't agree with you...it's not a flattering quality and it truly shows your age. I will say though with as young as you are, it's nice to see you're not afraid to get involved politically.

[tkproduce]

well reading and watching the recent news, the war in iraq seems to be quickly becoming a recurrence of the war in vietnam.

so what justifies having this war now?

[*kryogenix*]

well reading and watching the recent news, the war in iraq seems to be quickly becoming a recurrence of the war in vietnam.

so what justifies having this war now?

not really. what justifies this war is that we got the dictator out, we're looking for wmd's and we're trying to transfer power to the iraqi governing council. that's why we're still there.

[tkproduce]

not really. what justifies this war is that we got the dictator out, we're looking for wmd's and we're trying to transfer power to the iraqi governing council. that's why we're still there.

yea, but i hope you understand that it sort of defeats the purpose of US soldiers being there if they're having fun beating and urinating on captured Iraqi soldiers. No one deserves to be humiliated in that kind of way

[xscore]

i dont support it...and i think america SERI0USLY needs to mind their own business....ESPECIALLY about the whole north korea nuke thing....and the war too of course......

even my teachers say americans need to stay out of other country's affairs...