iPods, putting the record industry away? Options

[Eryi]

I have that red and black iPod. I like it. can't seem to use up all the memory though.

[uLoVeMikeRoch]

^ agreed. ever since i started downloading i've been able to find more bands, and have started buying a lot more cds.
i actually thought it was damn effective. did you miss my point? they don't break within months, or even years for that matter. that was an extremely ignorant statement for you to make. you didn't include any facts, sources, or personal experiences to back it up. and resorting to calling me gay..? i find that pathetic.

edit one: oh, and for rachel, it's *your. using the contraction you're means "you are" of course, and "you are sarcasm" makes no sense at all.

edit two:

i'm not trying to debate with you or piss you off with this edit, but wouldn't most people also put the music on their mp3 player? i don't think it's very likely for your computer AND your mp3 player to crash at the same time, but i do see your point. i don't buy from the itunes store because cds only cost a few dollars more, and you get something tangible without restrictions. liner notes are kind of nice too.

Jesus Christ, you are dumb.
iPods do break in a short time. They are not going to report that in any magzine or news resource. They would get sued by Apple.

The battery life is terrible. It has a pretty crappy battery that last for like a year. (exageration) Replacing that battery costs a lot too. It's not like 10 dollars either. It's 100 dollars. And their tech team isnt too bright either. I know people who have returned their ipods to the tech team, to get it fixed. They fixed the problem, bit when they got it back. A different thing broke. This was up untill apple decided just to replace the ipod.

The iPods to break easier than most mp3 players. They are just too damn sensitive.
THe mini's however do last longer. Because they have like an extra casing, but that still doesn't mean that they are indestructable. The White ones are alot easier to break.

And Apple as big as of a company they are, they just can't make Mp3s. The ipod photo was a good idea, but jesus christ whos going to use up 30 or 60 gigs. The shuffle was a bad idea too.

Nobody really need all 20, 30, 40 , 60 gigs. Hell they dont even need 4,6 gigs. Most people dont even have that much music. On the white ones they dont even need 10.

There are plenty more good mp3's and mp4 players out there. The iPod is just a bad choice. There are PLENTY more of players out there, and alot of them better then the iPods.

[sadolakced acid]

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how did you decide no one needs 60GBs?

i want to upgrade my drive to 60GBs if i can. i have 20 right now. i've got 9 GBs in it.

of course, it's because i can put DVDs on my iriver... and watch it on a color screen... but still.

all that space is useful. most people jsut don't need ipods.

[uLoVeMikeRoch]

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how did you decide no one needs 60GBs?

i want to upgrade my drive to 60GBs if i can.  i have 20 right now.  i've got 9 GBs in it. 

of course, it's because i can put DVDs on my iriver...  and watch it on a color screen...  but still. 

all that space is useful.  most people jsut don't need ipods.

Lucky, i think i know which ones you have too. Because thats the one i want.
The iRiver PMP-120, cause you have 20 gigs.

Well inyour case it's different. My point up there was to people with mp3 players. The only thing going into that mp3 player would be songs, pictures and text files.

I have a question though, i read that it has the Divx codec, but i wanna make sure this works. Does it play movies? like dvd movies you download, without changing the firmware or anything?

[sadolakced acid]

actually, i don't have a PMP, although those do better with playing videos, you still sometimes have to convert them. There are programs that will convert them for you, tho.

i have the H320. It can play Video by using Korean firmware. sweet, right? yup. cost less than an ipod mini (it was on clearance to make room for a new iriver player. still sold at other stores tho)

[LadyXTor]

I have a pink mini ipod. I don't use it as much anymore though..

[uLoVeMikeRoch]

actually, i don't have a PMP, although those do better with playing videos, you still sometimes have to convert them.  There are programs that will convert them for you, tho.

i have the H320.  It can play Video by using Korean firmware.  sweet, right? yup.  cost less than an ipod mini (it was on clearance to make room for a new iriver player.  still sold at other stores tho)

H320? Thats the more bigger version of the brand new h10 right? Wow, so that can play videos?! using Firmware?! So if i got a h10, (which I want too) And install certin firmware, it will Play the files?!

[sadolakced acid]

no, the h10 doesn't have video capabilities.

korean firmware of the h300 series can play converted videos, but if you hvae a US firmware it voids your warrenty.

the h300 was phased out by best buy, and is as a result harder to find. it's 300 dollars now. check staples, radio shack, and online.

if you want more information, go to www.misticriver.net

[uLoVeMikeRoch]

no, the h10 doesn't have video capabilities.

korean firmware of the h300 series can play converted videos, but if you hvae a US firmware it voids your warrenty.

the h300 was phased out by best buy, and is as a result harder to find.  it's 300 dollars now.  check staples, radio shack, and online.

if you want more information, go to www.misticriver.net

Ohh i see i see.

[largosama]

for sure, ipods are good for the music company. Alot of people adhere to the "sample" code and actually buy the full quality song on CD.

As for my opinion on iPods, they're damn cool. However, the Gmini 400 is my pick for the moment It's a pity they jacked up the price 100 dollars... now it's not worth it.

[william]

Jesus Christ, you are dumb.
iPods do break in a short time. They are not going to report that in any magzine or news resource. They would get sued by Apple.

The battery life is terrible. It has a pretty crappy battery that last for like a year. (exageration)  Replacing that battery costs a lot too. It's not like 10 dollars either. It's 100 dollars. And their tech team isnt too bright either. I know people who have returned their ipods to the tech team, to get it fixed. They fixed the problem, bit when they got it back. A different thing broke. This was up untill apple decided just to replace the ipod.

The iPods to break easier than most mp3 players. They are just too damn sensitive.
THe mini's however do last longer. Because they have like an extra casing, but that still doesn't mean that they are indestructable.  The White ones are alot easier to break.

And Apple as big as of a company they are, they just can't make Mp3s. The ipod photo was a good idea, but jesus christ whos going to use up 30 or 60 gigs. The shuffle was a bad idea too.

Nobody really need all 20, 30, 40 , 60 gigs. Hell they dont even need 4,6 gigs. Most people dont even have that much music. On the white ones they dont even need 10.

There are plenty more good mp3's and mp4 players out there. The iPod is just a bad choice. There are PLENTY more of players out there, and alot of them better then the iPods.

i'm actually far from it. thank you for giving some facts/experiences this time. my first post was based on the fact that i've had a first generation ipod since they came out (so it's about two and a half years old) and i've never had ANY problems with it breaking, the battery dying, or anything (it still works perfectly to this day). neither have any of my friends who have bought an ipod. i do agree with you that their tech support may not be the greatest (from what i've read) and that some of their batteries don't last very long, but given that i use mine a lot and it's so old and such.. i figured people with those problems are in the minority (maybe i'm just lucky). i might be wrong, but everyone else i've talked to has agreed. maybe some statistics would come in handy here... i'll look for them and edit this post later if i find any. i also agree there are better mp3 players (i'm trying to switch to my dad's iriver but he won't let me), but i do think 20+gb hard drives are perfectly acceptable (i think i have about 10gb of music right now, and i've been buying a new cd or two every week so i bet i'll reach 20gb within a few years, and my dad's collection is already well over that).

[whomps]

That was gay, you are gay. You're sarcasm is ineffective here.

Jesus Christ, you are dumb.

Quit it with the member bashing. This is your first warning.

[drugmasterj]

I have the one where u store pictures and liek god believe about 24 hours of music.. crazy but i spend alot of time in th airport or on a train/subway.. and I hate to ugh look at people... so its often covient of me to have around.... but i still collect vynal too so its not oddly but surely to have something that small handy around!

[gladz612]

i have an ipod photo and i'm loving it so much! tehehehe!

[wayne]

Jesus Christ, you are dumb.
iPods do break in a short time. They are not going to report that in any magzine or news resource. They would get sued by Apple.

The battery life is terrible. It has a pretty crappy battery that last for like a year. (exageration)  Replacing that battery costs a lot too. It's not like 10 dollars either. It's 100 dollars. And their tech team isnt too bright either. I know people who have returned their ipods to the tech team, to get it fixed. They fixed the problem, bit when they got it back. A different thing broke. This was up untill apple decided just to replace the ipod.

The iPods to break easier than most mp3 players. They are just too damn sensitive.
THe mini's however do last longer. Because they have like an extra casing, but that still doesn't mean that they are indestructable.  The White ones are alot easier to break.

And Apple as big as of a company they are, they just can't make Mp3s. The ipod photo was a good idea, but jesus christ whos going to use up 30 or 60 gigs. The shuffle was a bad idea too.

Nobody really need all 20, 30, 40 , 60 gigs. Hell they dont even need 4,6 gigs. Most people dont even have that much music. On the white ones they dont even need 10.

There are plenty more good mp3's and mp4 players out there. The iPod is just a bad choice. There are PLENTY more of players out there, and alot of them better then the iPods.

um.. do you have an ipod? i see your facts, and hte fact that your freinds ipods got messed up... but not everyone's ipod f**k up liek theirs. there is something called a WARRANTY. its hte paper that comes in hte box, that you can set up so if your battery does f**k up, you send it back and they replace it. so what, its a 100 dollars, but if its in an envestment that you see yourself keeping for a certain amount of years, what does it matter? cars break down, get into accidents, etc. but you dont see people saying "hey dont buy a car cause it will break down or get into an accident... get a plane instead!!"...

i can drop an iriver today and it will probably break just as fast as an ipod. hell ive dropped my ipod tons of times.. and it hasnt broken yet.

oh, and who are u to say someone doesnt need 60 gigs? go to Niketalk, there are people with over 100 gigs of music...

[sadolakced acid]

no, you can't drop an iriver and have it break as easily as an ipod.

irivers are larger, and thicker, because there is a 2 mm rubber padding around their hard-drive, which is what would break.

in addition, the player shell is three layers, plastic, then another plastic, then metal.

ipods have sacraficed hard-drive durability for slimness.

please don't make claims that aren't true.

[wayne]

give me an iriver, and ill show u how easy i can break it without trying...

please don't make claims that aren't true.

please..dont get urself into sumfin u cant get out of..

[sadolakced acid]

ok, i'll stop being nice:

you've proven yourself quite stupid by making assumptions about other players. shut up. no one wants false information spread about things. i doubt you've ever had an iriver HD player, and maybe never held one. regardless, you have no right to say things you do not know.

anyways; it's been tried: stress test. thrown down a mountain bike trail, still playing music at the bottom.

try that with an ipod.

[wayne]

if throw an iriver and an ipod at hte wall.. i bet you both will be broken...

they arent industructable...

and show me this stress test.. and i might have a change of heart...


but until then.. an iriver can be broken just as easy as an ipod.


being nice or not.. i dun care. heat means nothing to me..

and i dont think u wana call names.. i got a few that arent suitable for this board...

[JlIaTMK]

I have to agree with Wayne on this.

[sadolakced acid]

just because both will break doesn't mean they're both they're both as easily broken.

[wayne]

the thing i hate though.... is how people put down ipods like their the worst. every thread i see about ipods theres always people boasting on and on about how irivers are so much better. and my response is "ok.. wtf.. who cares?" people bitch on about how the ipod has low battery life, and how its much easier to brake. OK SO WHAT... IF ITS SO TERRIBLE.. DONT BUY ONE. GO DROP YOUR IRIVER A THOUSAND TIMES I DONT CARE. if a person buys an ipod thats what they want. if ipods are the most popular mp3 player on the market, you cant change people's mnds about them with all these facts... i have an ipod and im satisfied. sure irivers may have better protection, but that doesnt mean it cant be broken with a simple accident. at the end of the day.. they do the same thing..

there... the iriver has BETTER protection.. u happy now? but that still doesnt change my opinion. i can brake either just as easy.

[sadolakced acid]

i didn't bash ipods. i defended irivers when you bashed them. i didn't say anything bad about ipods, not in this thread. Sure i said i hate ipods, and that ipod users who bought it just for fashion and have like 15 songs on them have lost thier individuality, but that's not bashing ipods.

stop being so defensive.

[wayne]

im not being defensive. im just tired of all the "iriver worshipers". and i didnt bash on irivers. im just laying ink down on the paper. on all these ipod threads theres people hating on ipods and the people who own them because they think irivers are better. and you forgot about the people that got the ipods for the purpose of storing music on it. and not as a fashion accessory.

[Baku]

ok all ipod bashers and iriver bashers need to quit i mean omg its a damn mp3 player!!! let people buy what they want to buy i mean hell if they want to spend $400 on an mp3 player let them!!

20 gig ipod $299.00

Specifications
5.6 ounces
2.4 x 4.1 x .57 inches

Includes
Apple Earphones
AC Adapter
FireWire cable
USB 2.0 cable




H320 - 20GB $299.99

Package includes

* H320 Digital Music Player
* iriver earphones
* Carrying case
* PC Software installation CD
* AC adapter
* USB cable
* Audio Line-in cable
* Printed user manual

ok ok i have to say the only good thing about an iriver is the fm raido wooo
i mean the lcd screen is like what 2 ins? woooo
you do not have to use itunes to upload songs to an ipod :o
i have anapod and it works justt fine
the best thing about ipod is you can get an extended warranty for like oo $50 more? for 2 years and you can keep adding to it so it can go from a 1 year warranty to a 10 year?!? gee golly
and as of right now i have a 40 gig ipod... 20 gigs are full :D

all in matter they are pretty much the same in one way or another some has more things then the other doesnt but GET OVER IT just because apple spends $$$$ on advitristing that it may look like a fasion type thing, but really its a reliable company i know ive had my ipod for 4 months and borke it and whats this got a new one for free :o gee golly.... i say get what YOU want and not try to change other peoples mind because THERE JUST A DAMN MP3 PLAYER!!

-Baker