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The CB Revolution, it has begun
sadolakced acid
post Apr 26 2005, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(gotnoheart @ Apr 26 2005, 3:59 PM)
Which change are you talking about?
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when CB was given a new 'skin', namely the boxy icons to the left of every thread were 3-d, as well as some forum elements...
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(MarchHare2UrAlice @ Apr 26 2005, 3:04 PM)
how does the appointment of mods not effect me, a member of the community where these mods make the decisions? that makes no sense

well, if the way the mods are choosing to run the site is promoting this discontent, then clearly something is wrong. and clearly you need some instruction in how to do your job. because you're RIGHT. this ISNt how its supposed to be. and since sole responsibility for decisions which affect the site lie with the mods, as you say, then it follows logically that they are responsible
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am i even talking about the appointment of mods?
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i'm talking about justin's idea to make each mod assigned to one forum.

we don't have a say in the appointment of mods either. OHHHH FRIGGINNNN WELLLL.
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:09 PM
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well then why did you address your reply to me, when i havent mentioned that aspect of the idea, as opposed to justin?

as for the rest of my post. well, still stands
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:10 PM
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PM a friggin admin if you have a problem with how mods are chosen. have any of you even DONE that yet, besides just complaining to us mods who have no control over it about it?
 
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Apr 26 2005, 5:05 PM)
when CB was given a new 'skin', namely the boxy icons to the left of every thread were 3-d, as well as some forum elements...
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Ok, the only reason why it was taken off is because the majority of the members were lashing out on Jusun because they can't friggin accept change! They didn't like it because they didn't know what everything stood for, but didn't want to wait and try to learn and get used to them. Life is about changes. If you don't adapt to them, then well.....you know what kind of life you'll live.
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:11 PM
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you're not our boss, jusun is. this IS a job.


I was honestly waiting for a mod to say that Sammi. =D. Now that it has been said, I would like to point out that it was mentioned as boss, and not leader/overfounder. Boss.... strong word, often leads to thinking of overpowerment, no? Is it not true then, that most of the mods are fearful of Jusun because he does have this "boss" figure?
 
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Boss does not necessarily have to mean someone who is harsh/mean/overpowering. No one should fear Jusun because he is so damn kind.
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:13 PM
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PM a friggin admin if you have a problem with how mods are chosen. have any of you even DONE that yet, besides just complaining to us mods who have no control over it about it?


has it not occurred to you that people HAVE pmed the admins, sammi, ad that we're talking here to see how other people feel?

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Life is about changes


clearly, not if you are a mod
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:14 PM
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if you're talking about being fearful of losing your job, uh duh. i think anyone in any job situation is fearful of making the wrong impression on their boss. o_O

but trust me, we'll stand up to jusun if we strongly diagree with some of his decisions, since we're around here more than he is and if we've seen examples we can use to prove why it's a bad decision, then we'll use them. at least, i will - i talk to him on AIM whenever he's on about stuff like this. although, he hasn't been on in a while..
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:14 PM
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Mona, you contradicted your beliefs. Look at what you wrote, people can't friggen accept change. That applies to YOU with this condition as well dear.
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(JlIaTMK @ Apr 26 2005, 4:11 PM)
I was honestly waiting for a mod to say that Sammi. =D. Now that it has been said, I would like to point out that it was mentioned as boss, and not leader/overfounder. Boss.... strong word, often leads to thinking of overpowerment, no? Is it not true then, that most of the mods are fearful of Jusun because he does have this "boss" figure?
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in that respect, micron is more like lenin. not that jusun is like lenin in his ideology, but in the respect that he holds all the power yet prefers to work quietly behind the scenes
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(MarchHare2UrAlice @ Apr 26 2005, 3:13 PM)
has it not occurred to you that people HAVE pmed the admins, sammi, ad that we're talking here to see how other people feel?
clearly, not if you are a mod
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1) talk in the chatroom. the new mods must feel like crap since people are protesting their appointment so much. don't ask us what the reasons were. don't debate their appointment here. that's something to be discussed off the forums or in private with an admin. if you've PMed them, great, wait for your response. we're sick of being bothered about reasons they were appointed when we too don't have a say in it.

2) what, so any change YOU agree with is good, and any one you don't is bad? you keep saying all these changes would benefit cb, but i don't think you know how hard it is to run a forum or even be a mod on one. there's 30,000 members we have to consider. not just a couple who agree with the idea. sure we may not agree with the mods that were chosen, but sometimes you just have to suck it up. make your own forum if you really don't like how cb is being run. or you can take it up with jusun.

we're just doing our jobs.
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:18 PM
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What change? I am not contradicting myself. If you mean about voting, I stated my reasons (which was not because I can't accept change). And which change are you talking about that I can't bare to accept now?
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:21 PM
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Comparisons between foreign leaders and the "boss" of cB doesn't.... help much.

He holds all the power yet? It is entertaining to see that people are admitting this.
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(gotnoheart @ Apr 26 2005, 4:10 PM)
Ok, the only reason why it was taken off is because the majority of the members were lashing out on Jusun because they can't friggin accept change! They didn't like it because they didn't know what everything stood for, but didn't want to wait and try to learn and get used to them. Life is about changes. If you don't adapt to them, then well.....you know what kind of life you'll live.
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yes, not many people liked it. and it was changed back. ( which is good). but if you were Jusun. would you like to roll out a change and have it be badly recieved?

sure, don't include that. it's just seems like a more efficient way to bring about change. by introducing members to it before changing them over.
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:23 PM
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He doesn't exactly hold all the power. And I never compared him to a foreign leader, if that was towards me. He holds power because he CREATED all of this. He has the highest control and status because of that. But of course, the supermods and admins also have a lot of power.
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:23 PM
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And yet why does anyone have to "take it up with Jusun"?

It is a community to dispute and find a common grounds between eachother. Why the hell does it have to be one person's choice whether to abolish it or not?
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:25 PM
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or you can take it up with jusun.


in the process

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the new mods must feel like crap since people are protesting their appointment so much


im not protesting their appointment. im protesting for a greater say in general, and also, i think you'll find that at least one of th enew mods strongly supports what's being said here.

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we're sick of being bothered about reasons they were appointed when we too don't have a say in it.


so shut up and let it lie. it takes two to keep a conversation going.

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you keep saying all these changes would benefit cb, but i don't think you know how hard it is to run a forum or even be a mod on one. there's 30,000 members we have to consider. not just a couple who agree with the idea.


im sorry. at what point did 29,998 members say that this was a bad idea? i must have missed that.

and if its so horribly difficult, why not allow some sort of subsidiarity. that would surely make your lives easier
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Apr 26 2005, 5:21 PM)
yes, not many people liked it. and it was changed back. ( which is good). but if you were Jusun. would you like to roll out a change and have it be badly recieved?

sure, don't include that.  it's just seems like a more efficient way to bring about change.  by introducing members to it before changing them over.
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Come on, they were just a few symbols and buttons that even little kids can understand. He probably changed it back because he wanted everyone to be happy and comfortable. What other way could it have been introduced if it didn't actually replace the other buttons? How could people have known whether they like one over the other if they didn't see it first?
 
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QUOTE(JlIaTMK @ Apr 26 2005, 4:23 PM)
And yet why does anyone have to "take it up with Jusun"?

It is a community to dispute and find a common grounds between eachother. Why the hell does it have to be one person's choice whether to abolish it or not?
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they have to take it up with jusun because frankly, it is his forum. you(generic) can deny it and insist its public all you like, but the fact is, he owns it, and hes the power to take it away.
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:27 PM
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Oh, and for Jusun being a "boss".

Hm, well he would be here to hear about the debate going on, and to debate himself.

This is putrid how we should just go to him for an "answer".

This is god figurely. Horrid.
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:29 PM
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You know what's funny? The funny thing is that this entire thing could be so much simpler if Jusun just says something already. We're arguing about mods? Why can't the head of this entire thing just clear it up already?

Face it people. CB is falling. I'd hate to be the doomsdayer of this entire thing, but it's falling. It's falling fast.
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:30 PM
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If the Mods are working for Junsun then shouldn't they have an answer?
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Apr 26 2005, 5:29 PM)
You know what's funny? The funny thing is that this entire thing could be so much simpler if Jusun just says something already. We're arguing about mods? Why can't the head of this entire thing just clear it up already?
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Because he has a life. And is very busy with college.
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:31 PM
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Oh and if you are truly mods, then you would be mods for the community, not mods for Jusun just to impress him. Just wanted to say that.

And I must agree with Ariel on the last part. Period
 

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