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Michael Jackson, Innocent or guilty?
belg
post Apr 23 2005, 05:49 AM
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well, in my opinion.. he didnt molest those kids... there was like this one incident when the victim's mom called John Lennon for money... dunno if that's true but i believe it.... maybe the victim is using M.Jacksn for money
 
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post Apr 23 2005, 06:00 AM
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QUOTE(belg @ Apr 23 2005, 5:49 AM)
well, in my opinion.. he didnt molest those kids... there was like this one incident when the victim's mom called John Lennon for money... dunno if that's true but i believe it.... maybe the victim is using M.Jacksn for money
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you're right. The woman who hes on trial for her son or whatever, rpeortedly went to Jim Carey, Greorge something (hispanic comedian?) umm Jay lenno and some other people, beggin for money to help her son. She was looking for someone like Michael Jackson who would fall for it. No one else did but him. she uses celebrities for their money.
 
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post Apr 23 2005, 02:04 PM
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i believe that anyway is capable of doing something like that. even michael jackson; but i'm not saying that he did but it doesn't matter what any of us think. it is what the jury decides.
 
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post Apr 23 2005, 02:52 PM
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Just a thought, the kids may not have come forward because they were ashamed of what they did. I have not been following the case closely of late, namely because MJ bores me, but it happens in other sexual-molestation cases with fair consistency. If the family knew about it and didn't tell, I have no idea why, but if the kids were the only ones who knew about it, they may have thought it was their 'fault' and that they were 'dirty' because of it.
 
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post Apr 24 2005, 01:38 AM
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Even if he didn't do it, he'll be forever remembered for this and not for his 'Off the Wall' album (best pop album ever).

When you think of R. Kelly, what comes to mind? Kobe? Mark Chmura (Google him)? Barry Bonds? OJ?

How many of you realize that Robert Kelly is a self taught musician that feeds millions of dollars into SOuthside Chicago? Who knew that Mark Chmura was once respected by one of the most hard-nosed quarterbacks to ever play the game (Favre)? Who's going to remember Bonds' record after someone out of the steroid light breaks it? Whos going to remember Michael Jackson for being a walking god of music 20 years down the road?
 
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post Apr 24 2005, 02:08 PM
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I don't care and that's his problem if he did
 
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post Apr 24 2005, 05:02 PM
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I think that its a bit damaging to judge him ourselves. I also think that its incredibly hypocritical for the WASP christian culture of America that are very much 'Holier than Thou' to judge him as well. 'Judge not...' 'treat others as you would have them treat you' etc.
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 04:16 AM
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NO!!!!!!!
I'm not a fan but if you look at the facts I honestly can sit here and so no he didn't, at least not the victim in the trial.

If you watched the re-enactments, its all there..

I thought he did until the victim said that when he was in school he was a bad-ass, not in those exact words but yeah, he got suspended a lot and even talked back to teachers.

He says that MJ touched him, and masturbated him one night and they slept in the same bed yada yada yada, then he says that the next two nights he acted normal (borrowing clothes, sleeping with MJ in the same bed ect.) and it happens again

now don't you think if he can cause all those problems in school, he could easily stand up to MJ or at least avoid him.

Also the kid complains how MJ stopped giving him all that stuff (MJ gave him gifts, a car for his family to see him in the hospital, a computer, ect) and he says "in his 12 year old mind" that wasn't enough, the kid and his family obviously want money, and thats why I don't believe he did it.
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 03:24 PM
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umm.. i dont think he did but, i think he did some things that werent appropriate such as the sleeping in the bed
 
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post Apr 27 2005, 09:09 AM
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mj may have bleached, sugerized, slept with kids or what have you. but he is forver the pop king in my heart. *sob sob... ><
 
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post Apr 27 2005, 11:10 AM
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uh yah. he's so creepy.... dang.
 
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post Apr 29 2005, 06:53 PM
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i really dont know;

i guess people could just make up these things because it is entertainment
 
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post Apr 30 2005, 07:07 PM
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I dont. I think people just do it for the publicity
 
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post May 5 2005, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(kryzcoak47luv666 @ Apr 25 2005, 5:16 AM)
NO!!!!!!!
I'm not a fan but if you look at the facts I honestly can sit here and so no he didn't, at least not the victim in the trial.

If you watched the re-enactments, its all there..

I thought he did until the victim said that when he was in school he was a bad-ass, not in those exact words but yeah, he got suspended a lot and even talked back to teachers.

He says that MJ touched him, and masturbated him one night and they slept in the same bed yada yada yada, then he says that the next two nights he acted normal (borrowing clothes, sleeping with MJ in the same bed ect.) and it happens again

now don't you think if he can cause all those problems in school, he could easily stand up to MJ or at least avoid him.

Also the kid complains how MJ stopped giving him all that stuff (MJ gave him gifts, a car for his family to see him in the hospital, a computer, ect) and he says "in his 12 year old mind" that wasn't enough, the kid and his family obviously want money, and thats why I don't believe he did it.
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I talk back to teachers when I find it necissary (because, hate to break it to you but, teachers aren't always right and I'm not the type to hear someone spit out shit to me when I have something to say to it). Also, I have been suspended before. Not all the time and I wouldn't consider myself a "bad ass" but it's not like it hasn't happened.

He could stand up to MJ if he wanted to. Maybe he didn't want to though. But let me give you the definiton of molestation. Ha! I can even give you my own personal example (which I will in a few). One of the definitions of molestation is that it is when a legal adult acts inapropriatly towards a legal child.


My personal experiance with child molestation:

Well, I'm thirteen. I used to be extremly stupid. Still, while I was thirteen, I met this guy named Ken. Everyone called him Spike or Blade, though cuz he loved spikes and blades. I called him Spike. So we'll use that name for him. He's 21. Well, I was at the mall with friends one night when I met Spike. I thought he was cute but didn't really do anything. Eventually my friends got us to flirt and what-not. They basicly pushed me into him so I had to kiss him (without tongue). Eventually it got to the point where we were hard-core hooking up in Spencer's. Like, kissing. We didn't do anything besides kissing but we were REALLY close to each other and all that "good" stuff. SOOO... We hung out other nights, too. I never went any farther with him than kissing. We were always in public so it's not like he could rape me or anything. I made sure of that. He wasn't close to me or anything. He was just some druggy that I could have fun with. (He sucked tongue a bit too much, though. pinch.gif Besides that, he was a good kisser.)
So, eventually my friend's mom found out about what was going on with Spike and I. I'm not going to go into that because it's much too complicated. She didn't like me in the fist place and my friend, JT and I weren't even suposed to hang out. But she basicly told the security guards (aka Rent-a-cops) at the mall one night about what was going on. I have no clue how animated she made it. But long story short: he got arrested for molestation. He had to go to court and all that other stuff. I told the police in my statement that even though he implied other things, he never tried to get me to do them and all we had ever done was hook up. I told them everything and was bruetally honest with them. I told them that he kind of touched me through my close on my ass and breasts but I never told him not to or anything. He still got arrested for child molestation. I think a fourty-some year old man jacking off a twelve year old could get him into serious trouble. Especially if a 21 year old could get into serious trouble for kissing a twelve year old. Think about it. Spike got in trouble for it. MJ could, too.

I would like to make it clear to everyone that I am not proud of this experiance but I needed to make a point.
 
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post May 5 2005, 11:38 PM
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the only reason why i like michael jackson is because of the kick-ass songs he made back in the day. nothing more. its his personal life, and i dont see why everyone cares about it.
 
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post May 5 2005, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(gOODpIRATE @ May 6 2005, 12:38 AM)
the only reason why i like michael jackson is because of the kick-ass songs he made back in the day. nothing more. its his personal life, and i dont see why everyone cares about it.
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I do hate it when people get in other people's personal lives.. usually. But when you're going against proper morals, it should be known. I just don't like the fact that the media is giving it so much attention because it is Michael Jackson. They wouldn't care nearly as much if it was just some "regular" guy. _dry.gif But, I don't like MJ in the first place. Although, I did like thriller. tongue.gif And he was sooo hott WAY BACK WHEN!!! whistling.gif hehe.
 
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post May 24 2005, 10:57 PM
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No. I think that the mom of the "molested" child just wants to get money.
 
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post May 25 2005, 09:39 AM
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This thread is still going? Shouldn't this be in Entertainment?
 
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post Jun 14 2005, 02:40 PM
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In the most recent case, I know he was let offwith everything, but what are YOUR thoughts?
 
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post Jun 14 2005, 03:29 PM
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Didn't someone already make a topic about this?
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=70930

I don't see what the huge deal is. If any other regular person had molested a little boy, no one would've made it so huge. I personally thought he was guilty though because, why would anyone make up a story like that? And he had a background always loving little boys (at his birthday, he invited a ton of little boys), so if he perhaps got a little too close to one, why wouldn't it be true? I'm glad they didn't go crazy on him though becuase I think from a logical standpoint that he shouldn't deserve too big a penalty for doing something that didn't even harm the child.
 
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post Jun 14 2005, 03:31 PM
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well, i think he wants your reaction.


what i think is...

IT'S A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT!

the only reason why he was let off the hook is because:
a.) he's wealthy
b.) he's famous
c.) famous people testified for him

grrr...im so mad. everyone better watch where their kids are, michael jackson is back on the streets!
 
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post Jun 14 2005, 03:48 PM
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post Jun 14 2005, 04:47 PM
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OJ's innocent.
Accused Catholic priests are innocent.
Jonbenet Ramsey's parents are innocent.
Michael Jackson is innocent.

Somethings not righ here
 
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post Jun 14 2005, 06:50 PM
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eh...maybe not. granted, he does hang around those kids too much though.
 
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post Jun 15 2005, 10:46 PM
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It doesn't really matter if he did or didn't.
He's f**king Michael Jackson, of course he was going to get off scott-free.
 

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