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woman fell into "vegatative state" 15 years ago now they wanna pull the feeding tube outta her... Experts say that parts of her brain is like "muss" Her husband wants to but her family dosent... The husband already has a new family with children...
I cant really explain it that well but heres a timeline Timeline This post has been edited by hosing: Feb 26 2005, 08:01 PM |
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That's seem odd but i dont exactly know what do you mean.
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i think the feeding tube should not be pulled out..and if the husband has another family, i think he should stick his head out of his ex wifes life...well thats what i think..
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Two possibilities about the motive behind the huband/family's opinion. Only a few main options off the top of my head. Chances are it could be neither....
1. The husband had hid new family. He wants to forget about his old wife. He's sick of paying medical bills (I'm assuming he is) for her to stay alive and would rather be with his new wife even if his old wife man a full recovery. 2. The husband gave up hope for his wife regaining her heatlh. He moved on and started a new family. His wife family resents him for moving on and forgetting about her. They don't want him to get his way. I say the husband butts out. The wife's family wants her alive so they can cover the costs, or let her go. There's no clearly fair way. |
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i think terri schiavo's husband just wants her to hurry up and die so he can get the money. if he already had another family, he wouldnt care to fight for the feeding tube to be removed if there wasnt money involved. i think its sick what he is doing, and i think he needs to butt out and let her family decide for her.
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i think they need to take (keep?) the feeding food out. the only reason why the family wants to keep her alive is just to keep her alive. she isn't going to get better, and i think the husband is doing the right thing by trying to put her out of her misery.
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well, I agree with the husband in trying to put her out of her misery..but if I was in the parents' place I think I would want to see my daughter "live" as long as she could hold out, unless she was extremely suffering, so sorry as I don't have a clear opinion on this subject.
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^she has been in a vegetable state for like 15 years, she can't respond to anything and is not in pain because she is brain dead.
QUOTE(ohh_so_elektrikk<3 @ Mar 19 2005, 7:58 AM) i think terri schiavo's husband just wants her to hurry up and die so he can get the money. if he already had another family, he wouldnt care to fight for the feeding tube to be removed if there wasnt money involved. i think its sick what he is doing, and i think he needs to butt out and let her family decide for her. a. he is probably paying all the bills still dumbass b. her family won't let her go, she has been brain dead for f**kin 15 years, she is not going to just snap out of it. c. the woman said that if she was ever in that state, to just let her go and die naturally. QUOTE(picaso_smile @ Feb 28 2005, 2:21 PM) I say the husband butts out. The wife's family wants her alive so they can cover the costs, or let her go. There's no clearly fair way. i doubt they are covering the costs and hellllllo she has been brain dead for a long ass time. i cannot believe the parents are trying to take this to the supreme court. the goverment has NO right getting involved. the parents need to move on and let their daughter go! she has been a veg. for like what 15 years? her husband keeps trying to take her off the life support but her parents keep bringing him to court and wont let him! for serious, let the woman die peacefully. |
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Whoever's paying the bills should get the choice.
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QUOTE(xxcrazyjewxx @ Mar 20 2005, 9:38 PM) peacefully?! she would f**kin starve to death! and also, the husband friggin went with another woman and went off and had kids with her, i mean, how would you feel if you were in a veg. state still married to a man, only to find out that he is with another woman, and violating the marriage vows? "till death do us part" ![]() |
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didnt they already take the tube out? Just a week ago or something. If not i totally and fully agree with william.
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its funny how most of the nation doesnt want this one woman to die. but still we still sell ciggarettes to millions of people......
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QUOTE(ohh_so_elektrikk<3 @ Mar 21 2005, 12:25 PM) peacefully?! she would f**kin starve to death! and also, the husband friggin went with another woman and went off and had kids with her, i mean, how would you feel if you were in a veg. state still married to a man, only to find out that he is with another woman, and violating the marriage vows? "till death do us part" ![]() ...she's braindead. she's not even concious. do you not grasp that point? it wouldn't be painful at all to her. she isn't going to find out her husband has started a new family. she's basically been dead for 15 years, and she obviously isn't going to get better. why not move on? do you know how many people get divorces in the u.s.? there are tons of people who violate marriage vows... i personally don't think that's a big part of the issue here. |
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ok, its been said medical advances have been found that could help her but the husband REFUSES to let the doctors to actually utilize them. and ive also heard that her heart problems that led to the brain damage were caused by an eating disorder and the husband beating her. anyways, i dont think that the tubes should have been removed.
starving her to death = euthanasia euthanasia = murder plain and simple |
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QUOTE(ohh_so_elektrikk<3 @ Mar 21 2005, 1:25 PM) peacefully?! she would f**kin starve to death! and also, the husband friggin went with another woman and went off and had kids with her, i mean, how would you feel if you were in a veg. state still married to a man, only to find out that he is with another woman, and violating the marriage vows? "till death do us part" ![]() holy shit are you f**king retarded? if you can read, than you would know what the hell brain dead means. she is BRAIN-f**kin-DEAD. meaning she doesn't even know that her husband is remarried or that she is on feeding tubes. she cannot feel anything. she is just sitting there, unconcious, on bed.... |
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you can keep a person's body "alive" while you chop off thier head.
does that make the alive? |
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QUOTE(xxcrazyjewxx @ Mar 21 2005, 9:02 PM) holy shit are you f**king retarded? if you can read, than you would know what the hell brain dead means. she is BRAIN-f**kin-DEAD. meaning she doesn't even know that her husband is remarried or that she is on feeding tubes. she cannot feel anything. she is just sitting there, unconcious, on bed.... no i am not retarded, its an opinion. you dont have to resort to name-calling. i now understand that she is brain-dead and cant function, but i still think it is wrong for murder. |
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why is it murder?
in my view, she's already dead. |
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I think it's unfair for Terri Schiavo's parents. They were the ones paying for the tube and for what? Just so that Terri's husband would take it out. It violates Terri's beliefs because she's a Catholic. Just like you wouldn't abort, you won't kill Terri. I saw her pictures when she had her consciousness. She was very pretty. And, the part of her brain that is damaged is the part that censors pain. So, she won't feel anything when she starves to death.
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yea, i agree. i dont think she should be killed, i mean, i know it wouldnt hurt her, and she is brain damaged... but how would you feel if your only daughter was brain damaged and in the hospital, and someone was trying to take her life? no one should EVER "play god" and justify whether or not someone should be alive. i think they need to leave it all up to god to decide if terri should die. he has a plan for her, and its not right to kill her. she is still human, and once she's dead, she is DEAD. you cant bring her back, and she can never get better. i understand she was a veg for 15 years, but come on, just let the woman f**kin live
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QUOTE(ohh_so_elektrikk<3 @ Mar 22 2005, 11:46 AM) yea, i agree. i dont think she should be killed, i mean, i know it wouldnt hurt her, and she is brain damaged... but how would you feel if your only daughter was brain damaged and in the hospital, and someone was trying to take her life? no one should EVER "play god" and justify whether or not someone should be alive. i think they need to leave it all up to god to decide if terri should die. he has a plan for her, and its not right to kill her. she is still human, and once she's dead, she is DEAD. you cant bring her back, and she can never get better. i understand she was a veg for 15 years, but come on, just let the woman f**kin live you ummm contradicted yourself a lot there. by the way shes pretty much f**kin dead. her husband is not "playing god" by wanting to let go of his wife who has been a f**kin vegetable for 15 years. obviously "god" must have planned for her to die if she hasn't woken up or responded to anything for 15 years. so come, let her DIE ALREADY. |
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hah well the feeding tube is still out
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This is my thing.
If in fact she told her husband that she did not want to rely on medical help to survive there is no discussion the feeding tube should stay out. Also the decision is supposed to be left up to the attending doctor and her legal gaurdian and her legal gaurdian is her husband. She has been in a vegetative state for 15 years, frankly there ain't no coming back This case is showing us that what we want doesn't matter anymore because someone could reverse the decision. |
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Didn't they take the tube out on friday?
Or did they put it back? I think that they should just take it out because she really can't do anything. She can't communicate with anyone, move, or have feelings. She's been in that state in 15 years, and unless a miracle comes along, I don't think she's going to get any better. If she can't even feel or think for herself, then why not just let her die? I mean, not like take a knife and stab her, but didn't they say that she could probably go a couple of weeks without the tube? |
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she is a vegatable if that were m i wwould want to be put out of my misery.......
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