religion,, is it really needed? Options

[OriskybusinessO]

Lets say that no one ever knew about God, or how we got here (im not trying to offend anyone here, or saying this is true etc.) but do you think that we could go on w/o something to tell us how we got here. Which brings me to another point, what if someone just made all this religion stuff up? So, if from everyones brain, religion was erased, do you think we could go on w/o making something up, or discovering something new. Hey, i thought of something else, do you think that if there were more people focused on finding out how we got here (without God) would we find out?

Im trying not offend anyone by saying their religion is false, which i am doing, but nevermind this has no point...

[sammi rules you]

religion doesn't really have a point in my life, but to others, it's a source for comfort and answers other things can't provide. i'm not religious myself, cause i just believe other things to be more logically true to me, but different people need different things to keep their minds stable.

[fameONE]

I met someone yesterday who is an aetheist. Not because he doesn't believe in God, but because religion hasn't been forcefed to him throughout his life. All he cares about is beign a good person, and from what I gathered, he seemed like a good guy.

Religion, to me, is just a form of conditioning (Brave New World reference). Everyone is conditioned differently at different levels. If from an early age, your parents pounded Catholicism into your head, you're probably going to turn out a devout Catholic. Religion shouldn't determine your character and I don't think you need it to be a good person. But for me, I just need to believe in a being bigger than myself.

[Teesa]

I have always wondered that myself..I'm an atheist, or at the least I'm agnostic, so I think that religion is just a source for comfort for people who need something to depend on, so it's not necessary at least in my point of view. I can still believe in things and not be religious.

[Kriegsgefangene]

I believe that sitting and pondering hinders what you can actually do for yourself now. Spending your life/time looking for something that is just a belief is quite absurd, especially when there are things you could be doing for other people or yourself.

That is all?

So, I suggest you don't think about life too hard, and just find a way to make it better, like working on a project or hanging out with friends. Make yourself happy, and not sad because you cannot find the answer to life itself.


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That was my post from another topic.. I believe it fits here pretty well.

[Saeglopur]

Religion is actually hope for some people. They think it's all that they've got... it actually depends on your influence and the people around you.... for that matter.

[Levy2k6]

i think we couldn't live without religion. we probaly would find something else to live for. cuz we cant live just to live... its like an ant.. i think ants have religion too.. lol. they probaly pray and stay still before u step on them.. lol.

[OriskybusinessO]

yes, but not all of us 'live for god' if that is what your implying. And some of us have other things to live for such as ourselves.

[CreateBlob]

Religion includes what we believe in. We believe in keeping faith. We believe in falling in love. And we believe in life. If we didn't, then there would be no religion, but also, no life.

In the sect/cult/category type of interpretation, ..IMO, there has to be a religion, or at least a creator. If there isn't, how did we end up from being amino acids? The beginning of the galaxy? Of space? Of emptiness?

[ohh_so_elektrikk...]

im not sure of all the religions that actually believe different things, but im sure everyone has an explanation for everything... hell, science teachers f**kin believe we are evolved from monkeys and shit... i dont believe that, but who knows how we got here, or how the earth was made or anything like that. most religions believe god created us, and other religions believe we were like, plants or some shit like that lol. im not sure if people would find out, since it happened so long ago. im sure people can go on if they found out that we got here some other way... but i know people will still believe in what they want to believe since its what gets them by everyday. sorry if im not making sense, that was kind of a hard question you asked

[gigiopolis]

I think that it doesn't matter if religion is "real" or "made up". Who cares if God exists or not? Who cares if God didn't create the earth, or the whole book of Genesis is incorrect? Because it doesn't matter. Religion is there to help people, an emotional crutch. Its main purpose is to give some moral value to people who need guidance.

I'm quite sure we would be able to live on without religion, because there are plenty of people in the world who are not religious and are the most loving and charitable. Religion helps those to become better people, but doesn't necessarily make them better people from the start. It only guides us and strengthens us, and doesn't actually create any moral goodness from us.

The whole above explanation may be contrary to what I say in debate a lot, that God doesn't exist and whatnot. But that doesn't mean I don't believe that religion helps many people around the world, because it does. I'm only against the fact that people are silly enough to believe everything in the Bible and take all of the text literally. I'm against the fact that people believe in Creationism, because I'm more on the theistic evolution side.

Hey, i thought of something else, do you think that if there were more people focused on finding out how we got here (without God) would we find out?

There are plenty of scientists that would like nothing more than to prove that the universe was created without the assistance of God or any higher power. What, are you saying that if everyone was non-religious, we'd find the origins of the earth and the universe? Hardly. Now, if everyone was non-religious and were well-educated scientists, maybe that would happen.

[OriskybusinessO]

well if everyone was non religious, maybe they'd be more educated on the topic of evolution, thats what im trying to say.

[onenonly101]

I don't have "religion" I have faith. God is my everything and the only thing i need. Humans are failures and will fail you, no need to rely on them.

Religion is not the problem. Civilization is the problem

[heyyfrankie]

religion doesn't really have a point in my life, but to others

some people at my school say that it gives them something to believe in and that helps them to keep living life...or something like that.

[Spirited Away]

Religion is not the problem. Civilization is the problem

The most civilized nations, and even those that are not, are rather religious. If civilization is the problem, then isn't religion part of the problem?

[aznxdreamer]

religon gives people faith and hope and something to believe in. without religon, the word will become a major catastrophe. religon is what influences people to not do drugs, murder, lie, etc. people want a reward in the good things they do, heaven is the reward in most religons. religon makes people do good things wether its to not go to hell, or the love to your god. if religon were obsolete, society would become chaos. it would be the bad sides of society right now times 10. religon is important. sometimes people turn to god when they are in trouble or need help. praying and stuff. if there was no god, no one to turn to when you were having trouble in life, chances are things will build up and soon lead to suicide.

[Spirited Away]

religon gives people faith and hope and something to believe in. without religon, the word will become a major catastrophe. religon is what influences people to not do drugs, murder, lie, etc. people want a reward in the good things they do, heaven is the reward in most religons. religon makes people do good things wether its to not go to hell, or the love to your god. if religon were obsolete, society would become chaos. it would be the bad sides of society right now times 10. religon is important. sometimes people turn to god when they are in trouble or need help. praying and stuff. if there was no god, no one to turn to when you were having trouble in life, chances are things will build up and soon lead to suicide.

... I do not have a religion, but I do not use drugs nor do I want to kill myself or do bad things.

If mankind must depend on something other itself and what nature offers to survive, then that means we already lack the will to live since our inception. Man made religion (note: religion doesn't represent the Creator), not vice versa.

[OriskybusinessO]

religon gives people faith and hope and something to believe in. without religon, the word will become a major catastrophe. religon is what influences people to not do drugs, murder, lie, etc. people want a reward in the good things they do, heaven is the reward in most religons. religon makes people do good things wether its to not go to hell, or the love to your god. if religon were obsolete, society would become chaos. it would be the bad sides of society right now times 10. religon is important. sometimes people turn to god when they are in trouble or need help. praying and stuff. if there was no god, no one to turn to when you were having trouble in life, chances are things will build up and soon lead to suicide.

Ha! religion is NOT what influnces people to not do drugs. that is the biggest peice of crap ive ever heard. do you know how many people out in the streets in gangs killing people wear crosses around thier necks and believe in god?!?! Some are even killing IN THE NAME OF god, ex. a certain group of mormans... most (i'd like to say all, but its probably false) religious people live the most perfect moral following lives. Look at warren buffet, the richest man in the world...

[EddieV]

Religion in my opinion (if it's not real that is) is used to teach people to be good. They always say which religion is better than the other, but in fact, the basic rules of every religion is the same, no killing, no lying, no stealing etc. So if Religion was never made, these rules would apply by common sense.

Aside from that we would have other theories of how we existed...

I think I just made no sense...

[aznxdreamer]

Ha! religion is NOT what influnces people to not do drugs. that is the biggest peice of crap ive ever heard. do you know how many people out in the streets in gangs killing people wear crosses around thier necks and believe in god?!?! Some are even killing IN THE NAME OF god, ex. a certain group of mormans... most (i'd like to say all, but its probably false) religious people live the most perfect moral following lives. Look at warren buffet, the richest man in the world...

those are sinners.

[swe3ttemptasian]

it's a guide through life to help you think of your wrong doings and not to do them. thats just my opinion.

[Spirited Away]

those are sinners.

yes well the point of it was that even those who have religion can be bad. religion cannot prevent people from doing bad things, wanting to kill themseves and others... etc as said in your previous comment.

[aznxdreamer]

yes well the point of it was that even those who have religion can be bad. religion cannot prevent people from doing bad things, wanting to kill themseves and others... etc as said in your previous comment.

i never said trhat every single person thats religous doesnt do bad things. if there werent, then thered be no such things as sinners, right?

[Spirited Away]

i never said trhat every single person thats religous doesnt do bad things. if there werent, then thered be no such things as sinners, right?

no you didn't say everyone, but you didn't imply otherwise so it is natural that we assume you spoke in general terms. in fact, the word "people" is used to generalize everyone.

thanks for clearing that up.

if religion doesn't prevent sinners, then i guess that rules out your comment about religion makes people do good things.

[aznxdreamer]

no you didn't say everyone, but you didn't imply otherwise so it is natural that we assume you spoke in general terms. in fact, the word "people" is used to generalize everyone.

thanks for clearing that up.

if religion doesn't prevent sinners, then i guess that rules out your comment about religion makes people do good things.

again with the not everyone thing.

you really dont like me, dont you?