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age descrimination
iheartsimba
post May 15 2004, 12:41 PM
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do you think society has age descrimination?
(with laws, or parent rules, or school rules, ect)?
 
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post May 15 2004, 01:14 PM
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No, its not age discrimation... its based on maturity... you arent gonna give a 10 year old a liscense to drive... you are gonna give a 13 year old some alcohol... and you are gonna let a 9 year old vote...

its all maturity
 
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post May 15 2004, 01:30 PM
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a little age discrimination. say a 16 year old and 40 year old are argueing, both have equal knowledge but opposing positions on a subject. Who do you think a majority of people will side with? Not the "stupid kid", cause he doesn't know the reallll world mannnnnn. Stupid adults stubborn.gif
 
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post May 15 2004, 01:56 PM
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I think that's true. If you were talking to someone online who you thought was 15ish and you realized they were 8 or something, would you keep talking to them?
 
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post May 15 2004, 01:57 PM
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Thats all part of maturity and experience... older people have been through a lot more than you... you just have to accept that
 
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post May 15 2004, 02:46 PM
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but about like voting, i don't understand what expirience has to do with it,...it is about maturity, but does that mean we don't have a right for an opinion. i mean i think they should no the facts about it all before they vote, but after 6th grade, i learned everyhting about politics.
 
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post May 15 2004, 02:48 PM
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Of course there's discrimination. An 18 year old can go but a pack of cigarettes, but a 16 year old can't... A 22 year old can buy some beer but a 19 year old can't... A 30 year old can vote, but a 15 year old can't. That's dicrimiating. It doesn't nessecarilly have to connote something bad, but it IS technically discrimination
 
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post May 15 2004, 03:08 PM
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what is the difference form an 18 year old buying cigaretts and a 17 year old bying cigarettes? is there really a difference in maturity in that 1 year...
 
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post May 15 2004, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(iheartsimba @ May 15 2004, 1:08 PM)
what is the difference form an 18 year old buying cigaretts and a 17 year old bying cigarettes? is there really a difference in maturity in that 1 year...

possibly not, but the government discriminates against the two because they say it's the law
 
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post May 15 2004, 05:38 PM
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I agree, itz because of maturity

I mean if 10 year olds are allowed to drive, imagine how they would drive?
There would be like car crashes everywhere. Children that young of an age might/will race eachother thinking it is fun......

Id be lik cry.gif
 
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post May 15 2004, 07:59 PM
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Yes there is, only it is subconsciously. What do you think when you hear the words 10 year old genius as opposed to 60 year old genius? Which is more believable?
Oh and to you other people, the question isnt SHOULD there be age descrimination, its IS there age discrimination.
 
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post May 15 2004, 09:35 PM
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i think it's hardly noticable... because not many ppl will be pointing fingers and yelling that's age discrimination... i really don't think it matter much... but it is a good thing to point out
 
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post May 15 2004, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(azn_PIMP @ May 15 2004, 5:38 PM)
I agree, itz because of maturity

I mean if 10 year olds are allowed to drive, imagine how they would drive?
There would be like car crashes everywhere. Children that young of an age might/will race eachother thinking it is fun......

Id be lik cry.gif

well...i dunno about that.

kids always say "i'm never gonna smoke! ill always wear my seatbelt"
while lots of teenagers are smoking cigarettes right now...so you know,,,,
 
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post May 16 2004, 03:08 AM
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You have to set a limit somewhere...it's not really discrimination...
 
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post May 16 2004, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(iheartsimba @ May 15 2004, 12:41 PM)
do you think society has age descrimination?
(with laws, or parent rules, or school rules, ect)?

Of course there is.

Not necessarily a bad thing: Someone who failed to discriminate between a 10-year-old and a 40-year-old would be stupid in most situations, and criminal in some.
 
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post May 16 2004, 07:33 PM
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Not necessarily a bad thing: Someone who failed to discriminate between a 10-year-old and a 40-year-old would be stupid in most situations, and criminal in some.

Yeah, so is it not logical to base limits for things? It's not necessarily discrimination - they have reasons to believe ten year-olds are less mature than twenty year-olds.
 
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post May 16 2004, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 16 2004, 7:33 PM)
Yeah, so is it not logical to base limits for things? It's not necessarily discrimination - they have reasons to believe ten year-olds are less mature than twenty year-olds.

It's logical discrimination... It's good discrimination... doesn't change the fact that it's discrimination.
 
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post May 16 2004, 07:49 PM
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It's logical discrimination... It's good discrimination... doesn't change the fact that it's discrimination.

I suppose you're right.
 
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post May 17 2004, 02:43 AM
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I think you should always respect people that are older than you, unless you can justify being in a higher position than them - like a job position or something.
 
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post May 17 2004, 07:34 AM
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^ i agree...


but what about just descrimination from being young.
not neccicarly, the good kind, but if your parents or someone is yelling at you rudly for no reason (last night at my house) and they say something incorrect, and you merley try to correct them, then they accuse you of talking back and ground you.

I mean what about parents who don't listen to a thing you have to say just because you are young?

My mom told me I can't dye my hair till im 15. I couldn't get a phone till 14. And yes, peirce my ears till I was 12. (which i decided not to do...)
Isn't that descriminist in a way? i asked her why i always needed to wait for EVERYTHING i wanted to do. she said bc ur to young.
 
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post May 17 2004, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE(iheartsimba @ May 15 2004, 3:08 PM)
what is the difference form an 18 year old buying cigaretts and a 17 year old bying cigarettes? is there really a difference in maturity in that 1 year...

since you waited 17 years...does it really matter all that much to wait one more??
 
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post May 17 2004, 08:58 AM
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Let's reverse the discrimination...

If you're 21 and you rape someone you go to jail, if youre 15 and you rape someone you go to juvenile and released at 21...is that fair??

If you kill someone by drunk-driving and you're over 21, you go to jail for vehicular homicide...if you're 17 and kill someone by drunk-driving, you go to juvy and lose your liscense till your 21...is that fair??

When your 18+ and you get a job...you're taxed to the fullest extent, when you're under 18 and have a job, you may get taxed, but your parents get to claim you still...is that fair??

When you're an adult and you mess up, people think you're hopeless...when you're a minor and you mess up, people say..."Oh she just needs some guidance"...is that fair??



It's no picnic being an "adult", contrary to belief. You'll find out for yourselves when you become "adults"
 
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post May 17 2004, 02:29 PM
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Let's reverse the discrimination...

If you're 21 and you rape someone you go to jail, if youre 15 and you rape someone you go to juvenile and released at 21...is that fair??

If you kill someone by drunk-driving and you're over 21, you go to jail for vehicular homicide...if you're 17 and kill someone by drunk-driving, you go to juvy and lose your liscense till your 21...is that fair??

When your 18+ and you get a job...you're taxed to the fullest extent, when you're under 18 and have a job, you may get taxed, but your parents get to claim you still...is that fair??

When you're an adult and you mess up, people think you're hopeless...when you're a minor and you mess up, people say..."Oh she just needs some guidance"...is that fair??



It's no picnic being an "adult", contrary to belief. You'll find out for yourselves when you become "adults"

Oh, I completely agree, and I'm not an adult yet! Us kids have it so easy, yet most of us are too blind to see it. In all seriousness, I don't want to become an adult. cry.gif But you're right - you can wait a few years or so to do certain things, no biggie. You can't turn back time, though.
 
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post May 17 2004, 08:53 PM
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mph. i hate that. i hate it when you've been standing in line for something, and the clerk just looks past you and takes care of the adult customer after you. i don't like how people think that you can do anything just because you're too young, or too small. it's not right. _dry.gif
 
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post Feb 27 2005, 05:24 PM
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Okay, I stopped reading the replies after this last quote on mine.

QUOTE(dukesoccer07 @ May 15 2004, 2:14 PM)
No, its not age discrimation... its based on maturity... you arent gonna give a 10 year old a liscense to drive... you are gonna give a 13 year old some alcohol... and you are gonna let a 9 year old vote...

its all maturity
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There is a huge difference between age and maturity! My dad is racist and most of our problems arise from our disagreements about this. I'm sorry but I do not accept that someone is more mature than me if that person discriminates against others for no reason whatsoever! (He's also sexist.)
I think that there is age discrimination, obviously, but there's no legit way of proving that someone is as they say they are. The government isn't going to go out of their way to follow you around to see if you're mature enough to impose an intellectual vote.

QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 15 2004, 2:30 PM)
a little age discrimination. say a 16 year old and 40 year old are argueing, both have equal knowledge but opposing positions on a subject. Who do you think a majority of people will side with? Not the "stupid kid", cause he doesn't know the reallll world mannnnnn. Stupid adults  stubborn.gif
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I have argued with a 40-year-old and a 46-year-old and I can say that my experience with some folks isn't the sweetest tasting nectar. I feel that earlier generations are closed-minded because of the way they were taught to think.
I think that some "minors" should be able to vote, but only if they have a legit cause. If someone runs for president solely to legalize marijuana, every pot-smoker in the country will root and vote for him. (I'd have to say, if a woman ran for president, I'd be the first to give a standing innovation.)
Yes, my also doesn't think I know what the infamous "real world" is, but I'd beg to differ. OMG, what the heck, if I really don't know what the "real world" is, I hope to find out what... and why I'm not there!

QUOTE(dukesoccer07 @ May 15 2004, 2:57 PM)
Thats all part of maturity and experience... older people have been through a lot more than you... you just have to accept that
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Nope, sorry. Some people have been so overprotected their entire life, and they can't compare themselves to someone who's been through it all.
Brainwashed 41-year-old woman, caters to her husbands every need without question maturer than a 18-year-old tax-paying, blue collar person from an abusive home and hard childhood, thinking about the big picture, not their own desires. Yeah. Experience...Age... Think about it.

QUOTE(AngelicEyz00 @ May 15 2004, 3:48 PM)
Of course there's discrimination. An 18 year old can go but a pack of cigarettes, but a 16 year old can't... A 22 year old can buy some beer but a 19 year old can't... A 30 year old can vote, but a 15 year old can't. That's dicrimiating. It doesn't nessecarilly have to connote something bad, but it IS technically discrimination
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I feel you here, but it really doesn't place a good debate. There are reasons minors and some adults aren't allowed to comsume alcohol. That wouldn't be discriminating. Generalizations would have served you better, but, like I said, I agree to an extent.
 

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