"Blind Faith", critizing religion... Options

Okay I just finished my report/essay on this topic. It's basically...

"Do you think that calling religion blind-faith is acceptable in today's society? Do you believe that it is blind faith?"

I know its a lamooo subject, but i actually wrote like more than 3 pages on this... so yea... amazing huh. And what sucks is that i have to think moreee of this subject sinc we're going to ahve this jumbo mumbo debate thing and i have smart people in my class who can beat the sh!t outtta me with language and brains...

My opinion:
-Amendment 1 states freedom of religion, it is the first amendment therefore was important...

-There is no solid proof that religion is in fact blind faith just as non beeleevers would say that there is no proof that religion is correct...

-True, amendment 1 states freedom of speech, but it seems disrespectful to use the freedom of speech to diss something that our forefathers have put into the constitution to better our country.

Lame lame opinion here, i admit, because i was required to addd a "legal-point-of-view" and OBVIOUSLY my teacher was dissapointed since i happened to add the FIRST amendment... hahah anyways. opinions?

prove that is is blind faith and i will still belive.

[faithin_felix]

eh...grace, do you think i have blind faith, after all i have SOO MUCH FAITH in life, and i tell everyone to have faith, and my name is faithin felix, and you are now faithin grace. moah!
faith owns all.

[xjjajeengx]

im... not... saying it is blind faith... what the heck... did anyone read what i wrote BEFORE... im saying that Critizising religion as blind faith is wrong...
nwa faith_felix, you are not blind faith.

[faithin_felix]

im... not... saying it is blind faith... what the heck... did anyone read what i wrote BEFORE... im saying that Critizising religion as blind faith is wrong...
nwa faith_felix, you are not blind faith.

but i am known as the faith dude, don't judge faith. and you grace, have faith in the word "faith".

[Nashvixen]

After reading one VERSE of that bullcrap I can tell its fake. Thats the stupidest thing I've ever read.

Don't rule it out altogether WhiteChocolate. I've done research on the parts of sacred texts that's been left out of the Protestant Bible.
As you know, the Protestant Bible is derived from Catholic texts, but there were some parts left out. There's a theory that even more was left out of the Catholic doctrine because of women's oppression. There is a story of Lilith, for instance, as Adam's first wife who rebelled against him. If men wanted to remain in power once their wives learned how to read, they had to simply keep certain information from them. Lilith's testimony could possibly have caused an uprising of newly confident women against their husbands.
There's also been thousands of years between the writing of the Bible and your reading of the Bible, and if some translator wanted a part taken out, he could easily have taken it out to keep the "weaker sex"... weaker (which women were).

Actually I didn't even realize that it was you I quoted until just now, mrs. dasturbd. Please forgive me, but I actually don't have a problem with you. I just thought that those "lost bible excerpts" were crap. I don't think it was a very credible link...

If the link was your problem, search for books on this at your local library. I encourage you to explore this further.

wow. anyways,.

i agree with this, most definately. Im christian, but i respect other religions most of the time unless they start telling me that im full of crap cause im christian.

please, i understand this is a debate forum and so there has to be friction, but could you guys please limit on the member bashing? Its kind of... messed up...

Hehe... *agrees* I said in the gay marriage debate forum that I was brought up a Southern Baptist Christian. I respect other religions, and I'm even open-minded to them. I don't want to be ignorant of what very well may be the truth as well.
If anyone who reads this believes that their belief is the one and only true and perfect belief, I remind you that there are others out there willing to die for theirs. They feel just as strongly about their faith as you yours. Can one compete?

[f4113n]

first of all, id like to say that you bringing up this topic in the first place is completely 100% politically incorrect. go you!

personally, i think that its merely a matter of semantics. what is your definition of blind faith? does blind faith mean that only those who have "seen god's hand" or "seen angels when i was on my deathbed" aren't blind? or does blind faith mean going along with whatever most people believe in without actually believing in it yourself? does blind faith mean merely believing in something so that you can be comforted by the thought that there is more to living than just a human life, when you actually know deep down inside that our physical human existence is all we've got?

personally, im just a disturbed teen who has lost all faith in humanity and anything to do with it whatsoever, especially religion or other crap like that.

but ya don't hafta listen to me, im just a mentally disturbed 13-year-old who knows too much about politics for her own good

p.s. im an atheist so sorry if im offending you by saying that all religion is basically just a load of bs, but thats wut the 1st amendment is for

[picaso_smile]

All faith is blind. You can't look at God and say, "Oh yeah. He's right here having cofee beside me. That's how I know he exists." Faith is believeing something with your heart, not your mind, with no real concrete facts to back it up.

Criticising someone else's faith is pointless. You can't prove faith wrong. It isn't possible. It's faith witch means it's what someone believes based on whats in thier heart. You can't alter that with facts.

Furthermore, why criticize someones faith? The biggest reason I can see is to belittle them. Why belittle them? Because you're threatened? People don't like what they don't know, and what differs from their own personal opinion.

Let people do whatever the they want as long at it isn't hurting anyone. For example if I feel the urge to coat myself in powedered sugar and worship goodyear tires on the third day of every month at 3:00am. Too bad if you don't like it.

[f4113n]

You know what... I used to have blind faith... but when I was sitting in my senior theology class I was pointed out many things that prove it to be true... many non-christian historians who lived at the time of Jesus writing about unusual things... such as an earthquake and the sky going from day to night... if respected historians from that time write about it then why do we believe the rest of their stuff but not that?!?!
edit: sorry respected historians

an earthquake is a natural occurece which has nothing to do with god or any kind of religion, it is caused by the earth's tectonic plates moving. the sky going from day to night? im sorry, but ever heard of a solar eclipse? people back then probably didn't know what it was, so they assumed it was religion. didnt religion basically start out as trying to explain natural phenomena?

again, i apologize if im offending anyone with my atheistic views, but that's just my opinion.

[Nashvixen]

first of all, id like to say that you bringing up this topic in the first place is completely 100% politically incorrect. go you!

personally, im just a disturbed teen who has lost all faith in humanity and anything to do with it whatsoever, especially religion or other crap like that.
but ya don't hafta listen to me, im just a mentally disturbed 13-year-old who knows too much about politics for her own good 

p.s. im an atheist so sorry if im offending you by saying that all religion is basically just a load of bs, but thats wut the 1st amendment is for

Organized religion is all too often a load of bs. (And there's nothing wrong with being a 13-year-old interested in politics. hehe)

All faith is blind. You can't look at God and say, "Oh yeah. He's right here having cofee beside me. That's how I know he exists." Faith is believeing something with your heart, not your mind, with no real concrete facts to back it up.

Let people do whatever the they want as long at it isn't hurting anyone. For example if I feel the urge to coat myself in powedered sugar and worship goodyear tires on the third day of every month at 3:00am. Too bad if you don't like it.

We should start that religion! It sounds like the sure perfect way to heaven to me!!!

[Pravda]

Religion as blind faith. Cliché, but cliché for a reason.

Look, no matter how much esteem you place on your religion there are those that believe what they are told simply because the man is wearing robes or is behind a pulpit or is a demagogue. Then again, there are those that believe what they believe because they have invested time, energy, and thought into it. So, what constitutes 'blind faith?'

Well, as early stated, blind faith is all about semantics. If you consider all religions to be false and contrary to the human condition, then all religions are blind faith simply because people are believing in something that doesn't exist. If you consider your religion to be true and all other to e false, then you have an 'us and them' scenario. They are blind, we see the light. Now, what if you're some sort of transcendentalist/Bahá'í religion where all of the worlds religions have some sort of validity, then all humans have faith in something because it is natural and necessary in order to reach the divine.

Basically, this question comes down to the two schools of religious studies. Do you look at it with the comprative mindset, where all religions are studied as numbers and creeds? Or do you look at it as subjective, where you immerse yourself in the religion you are studying so that you can gain empathy and understanding for a certain religion?

Its times like these that I'm overjoyed that a lot of colleges and universities in America are now requiring religious studies classes...

[Pravda]

Don't rule it out altogether WhiteChocolate. I've done research on the parts of sacred texts that's been left out of the Protestant Bible.
As you know, the Protestant Bible is derived from Catholic texts, but there were some parts left out. There's a theory that even more was left out of the Catholic doctrine because of women's oppression. There is a story of Lilith, for instance, as Adam's first wife who rebelled against him. If men wanted to remain in power once their wives learned how to read, they had to simply keep certain information from them. Lilith's testimony could possibly have caused an uprising of newly confident women against their husbands.
There's also been thousands of years between the writing of the Bible and your reading of the Bible, and if some translator wanted a part taken out, he could easily have taken it out to keep the "weaker sex"... weaker (which women were).
If the link was your problem, search for books on this at your local library. I encourage you to explore this further.

Theory nothing. It's true. The texts left out of the Protestant Bible became known as the Apocrypha. It has several books that are still in the Catholic canon but no longer in the Protestant, like the book of the Maccabees (story of Channukah). Despite this, there are even more books that have been left out of the Bible as a whole due to the ideas of several 'scholars' at various conferences that met specifically with the idea of creating a holy compilation. For instance, no one wants to hear about the Book of Enoch or the Book of Jubilees, because it's filled with graphic descriptions of fallen angels rapping women and violence and giants that roamed the earth smiting men as they saw fit. During all this, God sat back and watched and laughed his ass off. This doesn't fit in with the way that most rabbinical counsels wanted God portrayed, so it was left out. Simple.

The same thing happened with the New Testament. Ever heard of the Nag Hammadi? It's filled with gospels not canonized. Ever heard of the Gospel of Thomas? How about the Secret Gospel of Mark? Ah, then there's Mary Magdalene. Mary was a prostitute, right? WRONG! Mary Magdalene was the daughter of the high priest in the temple, a member of the Levite clan. She was literate, rich, and well known. There are also implications in several of the gospels in the Nag Hammadi that Jesus even had a romantic relationship with Mary Magdalene. In some of the less complete gospels (they've decayed over time) there are lines like "And the Lord kissed Mary, expressing his love."

If you guys want to know more, give me some time to dig up some stuff from my honors religion class.

[perfectxflaw23]

I think you can call it whatever you want. I'm a "nonbeliever" (agonistic, leaving towards atheist). I do believe that some religions are based on blind faith, but not all. Buddha was started by a real man. Not blind faith. But the Christian religion is, to me, blind faith. You're putting your faith in something you cannot truly know or understand completely. But that is your choice. I'm not going to put you down for having that. I respect other's religious beliefs.

[sammi rules you]

i consider blind faith as not having enough information to have reason to have the faith you do. a lot of people have blind faith, and just believe things because people tell them to. however, a lot of people have also done research and believe what they do because it's what they really think is right. that's fine.

[zbrittanyz]

Blind faith to me means that the person has no idea of what their religion is based upon. If you truly understand your religion, then blind faith shouldn't be a factor.

Personally, I do not affliate myself with a religion, but I understand where people that are religious are coming from. I don't believe in anything- but I have a good idea.