Is the war in Iraq actually a help? |
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 Feb 25 2005, 01:28 AM
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becuase like i'm a middle eastern, from iran, and like the war even though its in Iraq is ruining my life. u go into air ports people search u like 200 times, in shops, everyone staring at you to make sure u dont steal...and I have been called a terrorist in my school and gotten a threat that someone was gonna kill me w/ his dad's gun....
anyone here actually belive that the war in Iraq is helping anyone? |
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Feb 25 2005, 06:11 AM
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 LunchboxXx Group: Member Posts: 1,789 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,810 |
well, dubya's getting alot of money from it.
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Feb 25 2005, 10:55 AM
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 Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
In the long run, YES.
Or maybe I'm just a tad too hopeful. |
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Feb 25 2005, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Feb 25 2005, 6:11 AM) well, dubya's getting alot of money from it.  and somehow were in debt...see my point? |
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Feb 25 2005, 03:10 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
We've been in debt for a long time. Be more specific guys or else people will get the wrong idea.
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Feb 25 2005, 04:37 PM
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 WWMD?! - i am from the age of BM 2 Group: Member Posts: 5,308 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,848 |
currently, no. the people in iraq are still being massacred, there's still extreme poverty and bad conditions..perhaps, in the long run, it will help, but i can't predict that.
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Feb 25 2005, 09:18 PM
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LunchboxXx Group: Member Posts: 1,789 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,810 |
QUOTE(JC4P @ Feb 25 2005, 2:39 PM) and somehow were in debt...see my point? as if the 200 billion came out of Bush's personal checkbook. his duties in business, such as national defense and halliburten (sp?), have delivered him and his administration hefty profits. |
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Feb 26 2005, 08:09 PM
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 I'll never be who I was again.. Group: Member Posts: 2,886 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 77,981 |
QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Feb 25 2005, 11:37 AM) currently, no. the people in iraq are still being massacred, there's still extreme poverty and bad conditions..perhaps, in the long run, it will help, but i can't predict that. i agree..right now many ppl r dying..both iraqi ppl and the troops in iraq...but in the long run i think it will benefit the world... |
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Feb 26 2005, 08:13 PM
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currently its' has not helped alot cuz you see people bring killed and bombed because the US is there. yeah i agree with the others maybe later on it will be better.
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Feb 26 2005, 09:39 PM
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 say maydayism. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,447 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 26,344 |
I don't think the war is helping the people in Iraq in any way. No offense, but I think the US government shouldn't be butting into other countries problems, unless that country requested to.
From the beginning of the war til the end of it, I never supported it. |
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Feb 26 2005, 10:00 PM
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ive always thought that the high security thing is ridiculous. you can't go anywhere without feeling like a criminal. i also think that it's pathetic how people that are middle eastern automatically get sterotyped, as if they are terrorists. a middle american has the same opprotunity as a middle eastern to harm America. So, why are the middle eastern people getting treated differently? I really don't understand. There's no logic to it.
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Feb 28 2005, 11:04 AM
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the war in iraq is STUPID every day in CNN, "breaking news" "xx number of iraqis/american soldiers have been killed in a car bombing" EVERY STUPID DAY SOMEONE DIES!!! THAT IS NOT HELP, GEORGE BUSH MADE A HUGE MISTAKE, HE KILLED INNOCENT PEOPLE,...HES NOT HELPING IRAQ, HES KILLING THEM!!
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Feb 28 2005, 12:32 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(sandra6645 @ Feb 28 2005, 11:04 AM) the war in iraq is STUPID every day in CNN, "breaking news" "xx number of iraqis/american soldiers have been killed in a car bombing" EVERY STUPID DAY SOMEONE DIES!!! THAT IS NOT HELP, GEORGE BUSH MADE A HUGE MISTAKE, HE KILLED INNOCENT PEOPLE,...HES NOT HELPING IRAQ, HES KILLING THEM!! People die because they are addicted to smoking, too, but I know you don't think smoking is stupid. People die in all wars. Whether or not this one will yield long term positive or negative effect is yet to be known. |
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Feb 28 2005, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Feb 28 2005, 6:32 PM) People die because they are addicted to smoking, too, but I know you don't think smoking is stupid. People die in all wars. Whether or not this one will yield long term positive or negative effect is yet to be known. The war is OVER and people are still dying, WTF?? |
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Feb 28 2005, 12:46 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(sandra6645 @ Feb 28 2005, 12:41 PM) The war is OVER and people are still dying, WTF?? Wow... What did you expect? That terrorists or insurgents will put away their arms and submit to the laws of the barely-there government? Or that the US should leave and let the new government fend for itself after so many lives lost and so much money put into the efforts? |
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Feb 28 2005, 03:22 PM
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yes, it puts more cash in bush's pocket.
but theres SO much more good it does! this "war on terror" has killed thousands of people, caused gas prices to go waaaay up, completely killed the USA's economy, encouraged racism, has thrown the USA into a 200 billion dollar (and counting) deficit, has hurt so many people like you, and has the whole country paranoid about terrorism (remember the duct tape frenzy a few years ago?). oh and i think the whole thing was good for the media, cuz everyone paranoid about getting attacked by terrorists is watching the news. THIS JUST IN: X PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED IN IRAQ!!! well, morons, guess whos fault that is? bush! for starting this stupid war, plunging the country into a deficit, screwing up the economy, then getting f**king reelected!!! war on terror my ass. its to terrorize everyone to reelect bush, and it worked pretty well, added to the rigged e-voting machines >.< |
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Feb 28 2005, 04:32 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(f4113n @ Feb 28 2005, 3:22 PM) yes, it puts more cash in bush's pocket. but theres SO much more good it does! this "war on terror" has killed thousands of people, caused gas prices to go waaaay up, completely killed the USA's economy, encouraged racism, has thrown the USA into a 200 billion dollar (and counting) deficit, has hurt so many people like you, and has the whole country paranoid about terrorism (remember the duct tape frenzy a few years ago?). Exaggerated much? "Completely killed the USA's economy"?   A critical factor of why gas prices will go up anyway is because of the world's thirst for crude oil is increasing every day. Go read "The End of Cheap Oil" from National Geographic magazine.
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Feb 28 2005, 07:03 PM
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LunchboxXx Group: Member Posts: 1,789 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,810 |
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Feb 28 2005, 4:32 PM) Exaggerated much? "Completely killed the USA's economy"? A critical factor of why gas prices will go up anyway is because of the world's thirst for crude oil is increasing every day. Go read "The End of Cheap Oil" from National Geographic magazine.everything else was pretty much on the nose, though. |
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Feb 28 2005, 07:08 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
Everything else? There was only ONE thing I could agree with and that would be the deficit problem.
As for being paranoid about terrorism... isn't that a given? Racism IS NOT encouraged by the war, discrimination is encouraged by the 9/11 attack. The two events, though related, are different. But what made me laugh my buttocks off was his/her statement that it completely killed US economy. |
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Feb 28 2005, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Feb 28 2005, 8:08 PM) But what made me laugh my buttocks off was his/her statement that it completely killed US economy. of course it killed the economy! how the hell do you keep the economy alive when you've got a war you're waging that costs a couple million a day? |
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Feb 28 2005, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Feb 25 2005, 9:18 PM) as if the 200 billion came out of Bush's personal checkbook. his duties in business, such as national defense and halliburten (sp?), have delivered him and his administration hefty profits. i don't understand how he is making money off of the war. QUOTE of course it killed the economy! how the hell do you keep the economy alive when you've got a war you're waging that costs a couple million a day? Before the war, DJIA was ~9000. Now it's almost 11000. |
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Feb 28 2005, 08:41 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(f4113n @ Feb 28 2005, 8:32 PM) of course it killed the economy! how the hell do you keep the economy alive when you've got a war you're waging that costs a couple million a day? What the eff are you talking about? Go take an economics course then post. If you hadn't noticed genius, the economy is fine. Go pick up the latest Wall Street Journal and eat your words. |
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Feb 28 2005, 10:52 PM
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hey, iraq is democracy-bound, as are many other nations. we're working toward increased stability here.. not complete stability, but we're working toward more of it. and development, too.
i'm very sorry about the discrimination that you've experienced, though; my school's actually pretty tolerant of various ethnic groups and religions. if anything happens in your school, be sure to calmly report the incident to your guidance counselor, teacher, or principal; this is a very, very serious matter, and schools must take action. you could also start an international club at your school, which promotes exposure to and tolerance of various cultures. |
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Mar 1 2005, 02:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 79 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 107,547 |
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Feb 28 2005, 9:41 PM) What the eff are you talking about? Go take an economics course then post. If you hadn't noticed genius, the economy is fine. Go pick up the latest Wall Street Journal and eat your words. which is why china has taken over as the world leading consumer, millions have lost their jobs, and many forms of currency are (or are about to) surpass the dollar *cough euro cough* |
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Mar 1 2005, 04:07 PM
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 i've never wanted anything rationale. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 8,449 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 19,045 |
thats like asking me if you need a pencil to make pasta.
NO |
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