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DaTru KataLYST
post Feb 18 2005, 09:06 PM
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Ode to the Nice Guys

This is a tribute to the nice guys. The nice guys that finish last, that never become more than friends, that endure hours of whining and bitching about what assholes guys are, while disproving the very point. This is dedicated to those guys who always provide a shoulder to lean on but restrain themselves to tentative hugs, those guys who hold open doors and give reassuring pats on the back and sit patiently outside the changing room at department stores. This is in honor of the guys that obligingly reiterate how cute/beautiful/smart/funny/sexy their female friends are at the appropriate moment, because they know most girls need that litany of support. This is in honor of the guys with open minds, with laid-back attitudes, with honest concern. This is in honor of the guys who respect a girl’s every facet, from her privacy to her theology to her clothing style.

This is for the guys who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from parties and never take advantage once they’re at her door, for the guys who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the rest of the creepy male population, for the guys who know a girl is fishing for compliments but give them out anyway, for the guys who always play by the rules in a game where the rules favor cheaters, for the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow don’t end up being boyfriends, for all the nice guys who are overlooked, underestimated, and unappreciated, for all the nice guys who are manipulated, misled, and unjustly abandoned, this is for you.

This is for that time she left 40 urgent messages on your cell phone, and when you called her back, she spent three hours painstakingly dissecting two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner. And even though you thought her boyfriend was a chump and a jerk, you assured her that it was all ok and she shouldn’t worry about it. This is for that time she interrupted the best killing spree you’d ever orchestrated in GTA3 to rant about a rumor that romantically linked her and the guy she thinks is the most repulsive person in the world. And even though you thought it was immature and you had nothing against the guy, you paused the game for two hours and helped her concoct a counter-rumor to spread around the floor. This is also for that time she didn’t have a date, so after numerous vows that there was nothing “serious” between the two of you, she dragged you to a party where you knew nobody, the beer was awful, and she flirted shamelessly with you, justifying each fit of reckless teasing by announcing to everyone: “oh, but we’re just friends!” And even though you were invited purely as a symbolic warm body for her ego, you went anyways. Because you’re nice like that.

The nice guys don’t often get credit where credit is due. And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don’t seem to get laid as often as they should. And I wish I could logically explain this trend, but I can’t. From what I have observed on campus and what I have learned from talking to friends at other schools and in the workplace, the only conclusion I can form is that many girls are just illogical, manipulative bitches. Many of them claim they just want to date a nice guy, but when presented with such a specimen, they say irrational, confusing things such as “oh, he’s too nice to date” or “he would be a good boyfriend but he’s not for me” or “he already puts up with so much from me, I couldn’t possibly ask him out!” or the most frustrating of all: “no, it would ruin our friendship.” Yet, they continue to lament the lack of datable men in the world, and they expect their too-nice-to-date male friends to sympathize and apologize for the men that are jerks. Sorry, guys, girls like that are beyond my ability to fathom. I can’t figure out why the connection breaks down between what they say (I want a nice guy!) and what they do (I’m going to sleep with this complete ass now!). But one thing I can do, is say that the nice-guy-finishes-last phenomenon doesn’t last forever. There are definitely many girls who grow out of that train of thought and realize they should be dating the nice guys, not taking them for granted. The tricky part is finding those girls, and even trickier, finding the ones that are single.

So, until those girls are found, I propose a toast to all the nice guys. You know who you are, and I know you’re sick of hearing yourself described as ubiquitously nice. But the truth of the matter is, the world needs your patience in the department store, your holding open of doors, your party escorting services, your propensity to be a sucker for a pretty smile. For all the crazy, inane, absurd things you tolerate, for all the situations where you are the faceless, nameless hero, my accolades, my acknowledgement, and my gratitude go out to you. You do have credibility in this society, and your well deserved vindication is coming.

Fu-zu Jen
Written for the Wharton Undergraduate Journal

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DaTru KataLYST   To: the Nice Guys   Feb 18 2005, 09:06 PM
jnukes   umm .. kinda got bored after tha 2nd paragraph .. ...   Feb 18 2005, 09:15 PM
DaTru KataLYST   QUOTE(jnukes @ Feb 18 2005, 6:15 PM)umm .. ki...   Feb 18 2005, 09:20 PM
sandy_lumpy_shore   QUOTE(DaTru KataLYST @ Feb 18 2005, 9:20 PM)y...   Feb 19 2005, 12:32 AM
sweetdreamsx3   I read that before somewhere..in a geocities websi...   Feb 18 2005, 10:10 PM
FLIPxADDICTION   Nice guys are the best kind of guys out there...   Feb 18 2005, 10:18 PM
WhiteLotus*   QUOTE(FLIPxADDICTION @ Feb 18 2005, 7:18 PM)N...   Feb 19 2005, 12:35 AM
wind&fire   hahha you p***sy's!! tell them to tak...   Feb 18 2005, 10:41 PM
actionrobot_go   Are you a nice guy?   Feb 18 2005, 11:03 PM
largosama   Thanks to that person   Feb 18 2005, 11:11 PM
salcha   nice guys are awesome   Feb 18 2005, 11:58 PM
Frankie   RE: To: the Nice Guys   Feb 19 2005, 12:28 AM
yanners   nice guys are the best (:   Feb 19 2005, 12:48 AM
stephinika   i the nice guys.   Feb 19 2005, 01:24 AM
yukichan   wow..that was long...but i read the whole thing......   Feb 19 2005, 01:24 AM
imafreakinazn   haha that was cool! HECK YES NICE GUYS ARE THE...   Feb 19 2005, 01:31 AM
Azarel   Ode to the Nice Girls This was written by the girl...   Feb 19 2005, 02:05 AM
xSWEETxCANDiix   I read both the guys' and girls' one..they...   Feb 19 2005, 02:17 AM
Wishful_Dream   i read that whole thing.. i like nice guys.. >...   Feb 19 2005, 03:40 AM
d0rkbaby   haha from reading these things. they are sooo true...   Feb 19 2005, 03:58 AM
niez_cho   Wow. I love both of those passages.   Feb 19 2005, 04:04 AM
kyuubi319   I read both and i love both and they're both s...   Feb 19 2005, 08:56 AM
monde libre   nice guys aren't appreciated because they...   Feb 25 2005, 09:21 AM
ermfermoo   I'm naturally nice. =\ But after reading...   Feb 25 2005, 10:00 AM
ermfermoo   edit: damn double post   Feb 25 2005, 10:01 AM
Mistrunner   I love both the guy and girl's one.   Feb 25 2005, 11:08 AM
Programmer   Nice guys... i commend you.... i've always wan...   Feb 25 2005, 11:43 AM
racoons > you   hmm.... i think that may be me.... bleuch althoug...   Feb 25 2005, 12:31 PM
Weird addiction   hehe, i read only the first paragraph   Feb 25 2005, 12:47 PM
wavybaby162   Nice guys are so... nice! How could you not lo...   Feb 25 2005, 01:58 PM
avalon*   i've read this before! and it's NOT tr...   Feb 25 2005, 01:59 PM
DaTru KataLYST   QUOTE(allthatglitterss @ Feb 25 2005, 10:59 A...   Feb 26 2005, 02:40 AM
mzawesome   nice guys are awesome.   Feb 25 2005, 01:59 PM
XaZnX07   yeah i know what your talking bout haha i am one o...   Feb 25 2005, 02:51 PM
Rachel is love   mmmm....read that a long time ago   Feb 25 2005, 07:06 PM
KissMe2408   lol yah i read that on my friend brandons site. He...   Feb 25 2005, 07:32 PM
skateforfree   READ THIS PLEASE.. This is a tribute to the nice ...   Jul 12 2005, 09:06 PM
L!ckitySplit   damn that was long, Yay nice guys! i didnt rea...   Jul 12 2005, 09:07 PM
ocpimple   Yeah... I can relate to mostly everything you...   Jul 12 2005, 09:11 PM
skateforfree   QUOTE(ocpimple @ Jul 12 2005, 8:11 PM)Yeah......   Jul 12 2005, 09:12 PM
Lo Mein   Haha like a million people just posted this on mys...   Jul 12 2005, 09:19 PM
skateforfree   QUOTE(Lo Mein @ Jul 12 2005, 8:19 PM)Haha lik...   Jul 12 2005, 09:21 PM
Lo Mein   QUOTE(skateforfree @ Jul 12 2005, 10:21 PM)i ...   Jul 12 2005, 09:48 PM
enyceXaddiction   i acctally read all that. wows. it does suckk...   Jul 12 2005, 09:27 PM
skateforfree   indeed it does suck i have to go it too   Jul 12 2005, 09:28 PM
Azarel   http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtop...   Jul 12 2005, 09:57 PM
cleec   It sucks that it's actually true. Despite girl...   Jul 12 2005, 09:58 PM
XAfter_ShockX   This is incredibly true.. i'm one of those nic...   Jul 12 2005, 10:09 PM
RiC3xBoy   If it honestly does suck, then change being mr. ni...   Jul 12 2005, 10:21 PM
Lo Mein   QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Jul 12 2005, 11:21 PM)If it ...   Jul 12 2005, 10:40 PM
RiC3xBoy   QUOTE(Lo Mein @ Jul 12 2005, 8:40 PM)If you c...   Jul 12 2005, 10:50 PM
Lo Mein   QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Jul 12 2005, 11:50 PM)You ca...   Jul 12 2005, 10:53 PM
RiC3xBoy   QUOTE(Lo Mein @ Jul 12 2005, 8:53 PM)That...   Jul 12 2005, 10:55 PM
Lo Mein   QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Jul 12 2005, 11:55 PM)Why ch...   Jul 12 2005, 11:00 PM
RiC3xBoy   QUOTE(Lo Mein @ Jul 12 2005, 9:00 PM)Bah this...   Jul 12 2005, 11:04 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Jul 13 2005, 12:04 AM)but fr...   Jul 12 2005, 11:06 PM
Lo Mein   QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Jul 13 2005, 12:04 AM)Yea, b...   Jul 12 2005, 11:06 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(Lo Mein @ Jul 13 2005, 12:06 AM)Well wh...   Jul 12 2005, 11:09 PM
Lo Mein   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 13 2005, 12:09 AM)And that...   Jul 12 2005, 11:14 PM
RiC3xBoy   QUOTE(Lo Mein @ Jul 12 2005, 9:14 PM)Honestly...   Jul 12 2005, 11:33 PM
Lo Mein   QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Jul 13 2005, 12:33 AM)Very w...   Jul 12 2005, 11:34 PM
RiC3xBoy   QUOTE(Lo Mein @ Jul 12 2005, 9:06 PM)Well whe...   Jul 12 2005, 11:11 PM
mipadi   Nice Guys are Such Whiny Bitches (By the way, I...   Jul 12 2005, 10:53 PM
michelina~kudelka   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 12 2005, 11:53 PM)Nice Guy...   Jul 22 2005, 09:39 AM
lbjshaq2345   i wouldnt no about the whole nice guy thing but i ...   Jul 12 2005, 11:21 PM
Lo Mein   QUOTE(lbjshaq2345 @ Jul 13 2005, 12:21 AM)i w...   Jul 12 2005, 11:24 PM
ag3nt_sm17h   I hate being a "nice guy"   Jul 13 2005, 09:26 AM
Krateguy09   People like that are known as "tools"...   Jul 13 2005, 10:21 AM
Szeh   It sucks for us... & it sucks to actually rea...   Jul 13 2005, 10:46 AM
LEDO_D0RKETTE   Whoa, hahaha. Do you actually think guys will do t...   Jul 13 2005, 12:02 PM
Day_By_Day   i go through most of that... :(   Jul 13 2005, 01:06 PM
HoodieObsessed   maybe you should find a smarter girl to chase afte...   Jul 13 2005, 08:38 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(HoodieObsessed @ Jul 13 2005, 9:38 PM)m...   Jul 13 2005, 09:56 PM
xlauren73x   aww that reminded me of mouth from one tree hill.....   Jul 13 2005, 09:59 PM
coldricesux426   loll I saw everyone post this on myspace, but its ...   Jul 13 2005, 10:24 PM
JoJo_x   I read the whole thing!!! It makes me...   Jul 14 2005, 03:14 PM
xlauren73x   i've seen this one too.. i think i like it bet...   Jul 20 2005, 07:14 PM
Lo Mein   awww thats so sweet =)   Jul 20 2005, 08:28 PM
sheepy   yo that is so true. okay, i should treat nice guys...   Jul 20 2005, 08:35 PM
reanimateddroid   nice guys may not finish first all the time but fr...   Jul 21 2005, 08:09 AM
CrazayChristian   Dammit, I feared this would be posted... Ok, here...   Jul 21 2005, 01:37 PM
mipadi   Well, your analysis is interesting, CrazayChristia...   Jul 21 2005, 04:00 PM
RiC3xBoy   I agree with mipadi although I also agree with Cra...   Jul 21 2005, 06:33 PM
CrazayChristian   Your about the 25.....thousand and first person to...   Jul 21 2005, 10:36 PM
RiC3xBoy   QUOTE(CrazayChristian @ Jul 21 2005, 8:36 PM)...   Jul 22 2005, 12:14 AM
i_r_hispanic   Nice guys are like mysterious and creepy i mean wh...   Jul 21 2005, 10:54 PM
CrazayChristian   ^er...wha? They have thier reasons, bad past, she...   Jul 21 2005, 11:03 PM
mipadi   Yeah...but that all stems from having a bit of spi...   Jul 22 2005, 12:15 AM
RiC3xBoy   Yea, but I wasn't sure if he meant all of it.   Jul 22 2005, 12:19 AM
CrazayChristian   It's damn good I didn't read that a few mo...   Jul 22 2005, 12:05 PM
mipadi   I think you're all overthinking the dating sit...   Jul 22 2005, 12:34 PM
squashie   just do what's right and be a nice guy. integr...   Aug 31 2005, 03:42 PM
Frankie   TOPICS MERGED   Aug 31 2005, 05:31 PM
Death2Smilee   Yay!!! NICE PEOPLE IN GENERAL!...   Aug 31 2005, 05:41 PM
oneandonlytammie   Ugh, I hate reading long posts. I like nice guys.   Aug 31 2005, 05:56 PM
glit_gal   cheers to nice guys all over the world   Aug 31 2005, 06:15 PM
incoherent   didnt feel like reading all that. im sure it has ...   Aug 31 2005, 09:06 PM
sadolakced acid   i used to be a nice guy. then i got tired of it. ...   Aug 31 2005, 09:17 PM
suddenly she   ^haha. they don't always finish last.   Aug 31 2005, 10:47 PM
iNyCxShoRT   I nice guys. I know one right now, he's my be...   Sep 2 2005, 11:37 AM
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