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Global Warming, the real deal, or propaganda?
kimmytree
post Mar 29 2007, 03:43 PM
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With our nation's politics so split, it seems like just as many people that believe in Global Warming think its a lie. What are your views on it? Are we really damaging our Environment with our huge production of carbon dioxide? Or are scientists and enviromentalists simply exaggerating?

I was flipping through my Chemistry book today in class, and found a very interesting section on Global Warming. It's an A Beka Book, published by a Christian college... last updated in 2000. I completely disagree with what the book says, but I thought it'd be interesting to share and debate on. _smile.gif

Global Warming
Recently, some scientists have speculated that mankind's production of CO2 (from fossil fuel combustion, agriculture, and cement manufacturing) may significantly enhance the greenhouse effect, causing average global temperatures to rise. Although man's annual contribution of CO2ot the environment is far smaller than nature's (roughly 7 billion tons vs. 200 billion tons), these scientists worry that this small increase may cause unpredictable changes in the global climate. Environmental activists have gone much further, predicting global flooding, disease epidemics, mass famine, and even the extinction of the human race if drastic action is not taken to slash CO2 emissions.

Earth's climate history
Actually, mankind's effects on the global climate are probably far smaller than some would like to think. Although the earth's climate is not well understood, the science of climatology has shown that the earth's climate tends to fluctuate over long term cycles. For example, between AD 900 and AD 1100, a period climatologists call the Medieval Climate Optimum or Medieval Warm Period, global temperatures are thought to have been significantly warmer than at present. The weather was so mild that grapes and citrus fruits were grown in England; the Vikings established successful farms and colonies in Greenland; and the Anasazi Indians built a large agriculture-based civilization on the Colorado Plateau (which was then characterized by a warm, moist climate). By the 1300's, however, global temperatures dropped sharply, plunging the world into a period called the Little Ice Age. The Vikings' crops and livestock in Greenland began to fail, the colonists died, and the island became covered with ice. Widespread exhaustion and malnutrition due to poor weather and crop failures left Europe vulnerable to huge plague epidemics that killed millions of people. Cooler, drier weather on the Colorado Plateau spelled the end of the Anasazi civilization in America, while at the same time the Thames River near London froze over in the winter with ice thick enough to support annual "ice fairs." In the years to come, the unusually cold winters would cause great hardship for early American colonists. About 1850, the climate began to warm once again, gradually ending the Little Ice Age; by the early 20th century, citrus fruits were being grown in the United States as far north as the Carolinas. This warming continued until 1938 or so, when temperatures leveled off and began to drop once again (probably related to ta decline in solar output). As late as the 1970's, unusually cold winters prompted environmental activists to call for drastic government action to save the planet from "global cooling" and an imminent Ice Age. In the late 1980'sand 1990's, temperatures once again began to climb (corresponding to an increase in solar output), prompting renewed calls to save the planet - this time for global warming.

The Kyoto Protocol
The United Nations responded to fears of global warming by convening a 1992 "Earth Summit" in Rio de Janiero, Brazil. Under the direction of radical environmentalist Maurice Strong, leaders of 150 nations drafted the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, which called for nations to "voluntarily" clash CO2 emissions, at great cost, to 1990 levels. In 1995, at a second UN conference in Berlin, developing nations voted to exempt themselves from any restrictions while approving mandatory CO2 cutbacks for developed nations such as the United States. These mandatory cutbacks were later incorporated into an amendment to the Freamework Convention called the Kyoto Protocol, drafted in Kyoto, Japan, in December 1998.

The Kyoto Protocol demands that the United States reduce its CO2 emissions to 7% below 1990 levels by the year 2010 (a 30-40% reduction below estimated 2010 levels). It also calls for restrictions on hydrofluorocarbons and perfluorocarbons, methane, nitrous oxide, and sulfur hexafluoride.

Interestingly, most other nations fare far better under the treaty than the United States. China, Singapore, Mexico, and many other rapidly industrializing nations are specifically exempted from the Protocol, while the nations of Western Europe are allowed to count the shutdown of pullution-emitting Communist factories in Eastern Europe in the early 1990's as if they were cutbacks in their own CO2 production.

Costs of Kyoto
Proponents of the Kyoto Protocol have argued that slashing CO2 emissions by as much as 40% below estimated 2010 levels will have little if any economic cost. The Clinton Administration estimated that the only noticeable effect would be an increase in gasoline prices of 6-8 cents per gallon, while some environmentalists have even argued that the treaty will save money and jobs. However, since the treaty lays heavy burdens on U.S. industries while copletely exempting most overseas industries, it is likely that it will only accelerate the flight of energy-intensive U.S. industries to other nations, with the inevitable loss of American jobs. Some critics predict that by 2010, the Kyoto Protocol could result in the loss of 2.4 million U.S. jobs and cost the average family as much as $2700 per year in price increases and losti ncome. Energy shortages like those of the 1970s may once again become commonplace, particularly if environmentalists continue to obstruct the construction of new nuclear plants.

Possible benefits of rising CO2
These huge costs are particularly ironic in the light of the fact that increased CO2 levels (and even global warming, should it occur) would likely be a net benefit to mankind. It is a known fact that plants grow much more efficiently at higher CO2 concentrations; if the CO2 content of the air is experimentally doubled, crop yields increase up to 50% while requiring much less water and fertilizer. In addition, history reveals that periods of warmer average global temperatures tend to be associated with better living conditions for humanity as a whole. During the medieval Climate Optimum (when average global temperatures were 6-9 degrees warmer than at present), average life expectancies increased significantly due to reduced disease, higher crop yields, and better nutrition. The global cooling that ended this period (the Little Ice Age), by contrast, was associated with a 10-year drop in average life expectancies.

Looking ahead
Unfortunately, the Kyoto Protocol seems to reflect a "ready-fire-aim" approach that characterizes many environmental issues. Although the fate of the treaty is not yet certain, it is likely that the global warming debated will continue for some time to come. As Christians, however, we can be certain that "while the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and sumer and winter, and day and night shall not cease" (Genesis 8:22). Although we should do all within our power to protect the world God has given us, we must always remember that the fate of the earth rests in the hands of its Creator.

That last paragraph scares me the most... the idea that the earth will only cease to exist when God's ready for it to. The first few paragraphs just lead up to global warming... most of the bizzare content is in the last two paragraphs.

Agree, or disagree on the book's claims? Discuss. thumbsup.gif
 

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kimmytree   Global Warming   Mar 29 2007, 03:43 PM
Wo0yaPo0ya   I definitely believe that global warming exists. P...   Mar 29 2007, 03:49 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Wo0yaPo0ya @ Mar 29 2007, 04:49 PM)...   Jun 16 2007, 12:20 PM
Arjuna Capulong   Well, yeah, the temperature change is evident and ...   Mar 29 2007, 03:53 PM
steve330   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 29 2007, 03:5...   Jun 15 2007, 03:15 PM
kimmytree   Yeah, I think global warming is the real deal. But...   Mar 29 2007, 03:56 PM
itsnever4ever   I believe that global warming is a HUGE problem to...   Mar 31 2007, 12:34 AM
JakeKKing   Global warming isn't going to happen. The aver...   Mar 31 2007, 10:42 AM
kimmytree   ^ Well, I dont know if the temperature you say is ...   Mar 31 2007, 11:44 AM
Heath21   Global warming is a possibility, heck anything is ...   Mar 31 2007, 02:48 PM
kimmytree   ^ Yes. But, global warming is the slow process of ...   Mar 31 2007, 05:08 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Mar 31 2007, 3:08 PM) ^...   Apr 1 2007, 01:22 AM
one_and_only   QUOTEAlthough the earth's climate is not well ...   Mar 31 2007, 11:36 PM
kimmytree   Yeah, that's definately a possibility. But if ...   Apr 1 2007, 09:16 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Apr 1 2007, 7:16 AM) Ye...   Apr 1 2007, 03:28 PM
Seraphim9   a little bit of both I believe   Apr 22 2007, 06:01 PM
kimmytree   QUOTE(Seraphim9 @ Apr 22 2007, 7:01 PM) a...   Apr 22 2007, 06:40 PM
Mystic Eyes   Global warming is for real whether you like it or ...   Apr 23 2007, 04:44 PM
kimmytree   QUOTE(Mystic Eyes @ Apr 23 2007, 5:44 PM)...   Apr 23 2007, 04:48 PM
Mystic Eyes   I know how you feel kimmytree. But the truth is, t...   Apr 23 2007, 05:05 PM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(Mystic Eyes @ Apr 24 2007, 12:05 AM...   Apr 23 2007, 06:12 PM
kimmytree   ^ Lmao, I dont know about cutting them off. But ye...   Apr 23 2007, 05:35 PM
Mystic Eyes   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Apr 23 2007, 11:35 PM) ...   Apr 24 2007, 05:25 PM
boo! grr...   i remember watching something on national geograph...   Apr 24 2007, 10:36 AM
moorepocket*   i didn't thought of it, until my friend told m...   Apr 24 2007, 02:28 PM
NYCin2009   Oh, global warming is real alright. Most people w...   Jun 2 2007, 11:13 PM
stormbringer   QUOTE(NYCin2009 @ Jun 3 2007, 12:13 PM) O...   Jun 15 2007, 03:03 PM
31miracles   QUOTE(stormbringer @ Jun 15 2007, 04:03 P...   Jun 15 2007, 03:50 PM
ashleybby   i am not sure if it is real or not. i do believe t...   Jun 7 2007, 01:54 AM
kimmytree   ^ Most of the pollution we produce from factories ...   Jun 7 2007, 05:57 PM
fanger   WOW i am so glad there is this topic on createblog...   Jun 15 2007, 03:30 PM
31miracles   As for my view on global warming, I believe that t...   Jun 15 2007, 03:51 PM
steve330   You're f**king stupid if you thought it a good...   Jun 15 2007, 04:07 PM
31miracles   QUOTE(steve330 @ Jun 15 2007, 05:07 PM) Y...   Jun 15 2007, 04:18 PM
kimmytree   QUOTE(steve330 @ Jun 15 2007, 05:07 PM) Y...   Jun 15 2007, 08:17 PM
steve330   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jun 15 2007, 08:17 PM) ...   Jun 15 2007, 08:55 PM
31miracles   QUOTE(steve330 @ Jun 15 2007, 09:55 PM) I...   Jun 15 2007, 09:01 PM
kimmytree   QUOTE(steve330 @ Jun 15 2007, 09:55 PM) I...   Jun 16 2007, 01:18 PM
RyanWasHere   Global warming is a myth.   Jun 15 2007, 08:43 PM
steve330   I'm not saying it's right to pollute at th...   Jun 15 2007, 10:52 PM
Moderator   I don't believe in man made global warming. Th...   Jun 16 2007, 04:42 PM
Mulder   ^how can you believe that, with the drastic change...   Jun 16 2007, 07:00 PM
31miracles   QUOTE(Mulder @ Jun 16 2007, 08:00 PM) ^ho...   Jun 16 2007, 09:38 PM
Chickkabooh   Lmao KIM! I was just looking at new posts...an...   Jun 16 2007, 09:44 PM
Moderator   As someone stated above, the carbon level is alway...   Jun 17 2007, 09:29 AM
xKatt   QUOTE(Moderator @ Jun 17 2007, 09:29 AM) ...   Jun 24 2007, 09:41 PM
steve330   The people such as the one right before me have go...   Jun 17 2007, 10:52 AM
31miracles   QUOTE(steve330 @ Jun 17 2007, 11:52 AM) T...   Jun 17 2007, 03:45 PM
steve330   No I said that regarding the kyoto protocol. QUOT...   Jun 18 2007, 11:58 AM
s tee d   it Could happen but it won't be because of us....   Jun 25 2007, 09:30 AM
medic   I agree with global warming, but I do not agree wi...   Jun 26 2007, 04:28 PM
steve330   ^bing bing bing bing bing bing! Scientists wh...   Jun 26 2007, 04:31 PM
medic   Global Warming is one of many touchy subjects I sp...   Jun 26 2007, 07:25 PM
cjyoshiruler   this is a very big deal. and its getting worse rom...   Jun 29 2007, 06:31 PM
Tamacracker   Well... it's either global warming or evolutio...   Jun 29 2007, 06:36 PM
medic   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jun 29 2007, 06:36 PM...   Jun 29 2007, 06:53 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(medic @ Jun 29 2007, 07:53 PM) Acce...   Jun 29 2007, 06:57 PM
cjyoshiruler   lol   Jun 29 2007, 06:52 PM
S-Majere   No such thing as Global Warming. At least not of t...   Jul 13 2007, 09:17 AM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(S-Majere @ Jul 13 2007, 09:17 ...   Jul 13 2007, 03:45 PM
steve330   ^Yar. I don't think it's so much a cover ...   Jul 13 2007, 02:37 PM
S-Majere   I wrote a paper on this and did hours of research;...   Jul 13 2007, 06:56 PM
brooklyneast05   man this topic was closed last time i tried to rep...   Jul 13 2007, 09:31 PM
steve330   Ok look the Earth is heating up, no doubt about th...   Jul 13 2007, 11:46 PM
brooklyneast05   Union of Concerned Scientists i still don...   Jul 14 2007, 12:21 AM
kimmytree   Whether Global Warming exists or not, taking certa...   Jul 14 2007, 10:13 AM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jul 14 2007, 10:13 AM) ...   Jul 14 2007, 10:19 AM
kimmytree   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jul 14 2007, 11:19...   Jul 14 2007, 10:28 AM
steve330   They also have way less people driving, more mass ...   Jul 14 2007, 12:32 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(steve330 @ Jul 14 2007, 12:32 PM) B...   Jul 14 2007, 01:05 PM
steve330   *sigh* I hate when people automatically assume th...   Jul 14 2007, 01:13 PM
brooklyneast05   no ur right, u never said we should pollute, so i ...   Jul 14 2007, 01:26 PM
steve330   I agree with you for the most part. Rising temper...   Jul 14 2007, 01:31 PM
kimmytree   QUOTE(steve330 @ Jul 14 2007, 02:31 PM) I...   Jul 14 2007, 04:30 PM
steve330   I know it's not the only thing that contribute...   Jul 14 2007, 04:43 PM
xtwitchyx   I personally think it's all a load of shit and...   Jul 26 2007, 04:52 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(xtwitchyx @ Jul 26 2007, 04:52 PM) ...   Jul 26 2007, 05:01 PM
Steven   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jul 26 2007, 05:01...   Jul 26 2007, 09:58 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Steven @ Jul 26 2007, 09:58 PM) But...   Jul 26 2007, 10:03 PM
Steven   But take into account that volcanoes exploding put...   Jul 26 2007, 10:43 PM
xtwitchyx   I've heard that in a sense we need the whole g...   Jul 27 2007, 02:31 AM
Steven   ^Huh? Why would it be necessary?   Jul 27 2007, 08:27 AM
Peanups   First off, I know basically zilch about this topic...   Jul 28 2007, 02:23 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Peanups @ Jul 28 2007, 02:23 PM) So...   Jul 28 2007, 02:34 PM
Peanups   ^ i wasn't tyring to debate, i was just adding...   Jul 28 2007, 04:19 PM
brooklyneast05   that article is by William Robert Johnston right? ...   Jul 28 2007, 04:37 PM
Steven   I disagree with the Kyoto Protocol. I don't d...   Jul 29 2007, 08:52 AM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Steven @ Jul 29 2007, 08:52 AM) I t...   Jul 29 2007, 10:45 AM
jackie13xo   global warming is a myth . i attend suffolk univer...   Jul 29 2007, 11:18 AM
Steven   QUOTE(jackie13xo @ Jul 29 2007, 11:18 AM)...   Jul 29 2007, 11:29 AM
jackie13xo   QUOTE(Steven @ Jul 29 2007, 12:29 PM) Oka...   Jul 29 2007, 11:54 AM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(jackie13xo @ Jul 29 2007, 11:54 AM)...   Jul 29 2007, 12:07 PM
jackie13xo   well that my love is why we live in america and yo...   Jul 29 2007, 12:10 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(jackie13xo @ Jul 29 2007, 12:10 PM)...   Jul 29 2007, 12:14 PM
jackie13xo   agreed. you know for a kid from brooklyn you seem...   Jul 29 2007, 12:19 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(jackie13xo @ Jul 29 2007, 12:19 PM)...   Jul 29 2007, 12:23 PM
jackie13xo   oh man i meant kid as in your young && bei...   Jul 29 2007, 12:27 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(jackie13xo @ Jul 29 2007, 12:27 PM)...   Jul 29 2007, 12:30 PM
jackie13xo   but yeah global warming everyone cmon! show s...   Jul 29 2007, 12:29 PM
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