is it animal cruelty? Options

[CrimsonArchangel]

No, this is not about fur, or wool or anything like that.

Its about science. Many of you have had to dissect several creatures for bio class, most likely. Today I had to do the frog ringer lab, where a frog has its brain removed (is it really dead?) and then we have to dissect it and add chemicals to its heart to see what happens, then add a third one that will kill it.

Now I ask. Despite the fact that many of those animals are bred for that purpose, "to further science", should we use animals as dissection subjects? Or should we just make plastic models and the such?

Is it animal cruelty to breed animals for the purpose of being cut up by students just to learn?

[im2tall]

I'm sorry, but most of your comments are based on wrong facts...

Formaldehyde is not used to kill any animals.. the chemical is used to preserve the dead animal so that it doesn't rotten. Most of the animals that are used for dissection in high school labs aren't killed on purpose... they were "put to sleep" by the animal shelter.

Stem cells are not some animal cell. It's embryonic cells.. meaning it's from unborn fetuses.. usually from those that are aborted or from unused eggs that were artificially inseminated. those "lives" are being used for experiment to advance the scientific knowledge and medicine.

As many have said, animal use for medical advancement is crucial. Without using animals for testing, there won't the kind of medical care that we take advantage of..... organ transplants, surgeries, cold medicine, etc. You can only test the effectiveness in theory for so much and practical application must be done to prove its effectiveness and safety for human.

I myself work in a lab that breeds and kills rodents for microsurgical transplantation. Everyday I kill at least 2 rats, practicing surgical procedures and transplanting organs for scientific studies. Without such studies and experiments, people who have diabetes and kidney failures won't survive..

For those that think that killing animals are cruel, then how can you be eating chicken and beef? These animals are bred and grown to specifically feed us. How about eggs? They're unborn chickens...

I understand that killing a living thing may seem crucial, but there are ethical guidelines in place to insure that these animals are not used in vein and treated well. There is absolutely no way of avoiding killing a living matter in order for other animals to survive.

It's hard to say what life is more important than another. However, there are fundamental reasons for doing what we do now. If my mother and a dog was drawing, I think I would no doubt save my mother than my dog... am i being cruel?

[eunie03]

Humans and animals are not equal.

They are to me.

you can't get life in prision if you shoot an animal. in fact, it's legal. the government gets money from it

The government gets money from it... that makes everything right, doesn't it?
I could name a number of things wrong with the government (as I'm sure anyone can)... but let's not get into that.

For those that think that killing animals are cruel, then how can you be eating chicken and beef?  These animals are bred and grown to specifically feed us.  How about eggs?  They're unborn chickens...

That's why there are vegetarians and vegans, my dear.

It's hard to say what life is more important than another.  However, there are fundamental reasons for doing what we do now.  If my mother and a dog was drawing, I think I would no doubt save my mother than my dog... am i being cruel?

If your mother and a lab assistant were in a drawing.... you would no doubt save your mother.

Are you being cruel?


(I hope you guys don't think I'm attacking you. I see your side....)

At the very least, we can lessen the use of real parts.