is it animal cruelty? Options

[CrimsonArchangel]

No, this is not about fur, or wool or anything like that.

Its about science. Many of you have had to dissect several creatures for bio class, most likely. Today I had to do the frog ringer lab, where a frog has its brain removed (is it really dead?) and then we have to dissect it and add chemicals to its heart to see what happens, then add a third one that will kill it.

Now I ask. Despite the fact that many of those animals are bred for that purpose, "to further science", should we use animals as dissection subjects? Or should we just make plastic models and the such?

Is it animal cruelty to breed animals for the purpose of being cut up by students just to learn?

[sadolakced acid]

the contrast between disection models and the real thing is very different.

how will doctors learn how find the gallbladder by touch if all the plastic models are , will, plastic and hard?

does plastic beat? like a plastic beating heart?

the problem with these substitutes is they can only be used so much. Eventually, live animals must be used.

and on the subject of cosmetic testing.

all cosmetic testing is humane. HUMANe, if not particarlly nice to animals.
I would like all those people opposed to cosmetic testing to think of this:

imagine i decide to be a cosmetic maker. I decide to make PETA certified ones that aren't tested on animals.

hmm... for some reason i put a chemical in mascera. it's great, makes lashes really great.

i sell it. it's great. thousands buy it.

one month later, i find out that this chemical i put in this mascera, it causes blinding! prolonged exposure causes blinding! and it comes off into the eye whenever someone blinks!!

so, there goes thousands of people's sight. Thousands of people, blind. Why? because PETA would not let me stick the chemical forciblly into many rabbits eyes untill they were almost bleeding from the eyes.

Sure, it's not great for the animals. But it's great for the humans. thus, it's HUMANe. as in HUMAN.

(anyways: something like this actually happened. Someone made a mascera not tested on animals. and it blinded a few hundred people. )

cosmetics MUST be tested, (or at least all chemicals used in the cosmetic), on animals BEFORE humans use it, or else the HUMANS are the beta testers of potentially lethal blush or lipstick.

cosmetics, because they are used so close to the eyes, and they are applied to the skin, and the lips, MUST be tested, because someone WILL get some in thier mouth, or in thier eye, or it will leeech into thier skin.

and we are HUMANS first, and which would you rather? 10,000 people blind, so that 20 rabbits don't die?

maybe those priorities need considering.

(Note: i don't like the thought of sticking chemicals in rabbit's eyes till they bleed. i wouldn't want to watch it. but it is nessisary. for safety reasons. )