Democracy & Strict Separation of Church and State Options

[*Kathleen*]

Resolved: Democracy is best served with a strict separation of church and state.

Okay...now...just post about what you believe in. I need some practice for the next two months' LD debate.

[*Kathleen*]

good job, praticing on debate, haha.

yep, that's true. Democracy is best served with a strict seperation of church and state, but lately, that hasn't been enforced well.

Remember the California atheist that wanted the pledge of allegiance banned from the US? just recently, i read the newspaper and found out that he wanted to ban prayer during the inauguration but the court DENIED to ban prayer from the inauguration.

remember: our nation grew up with mostly Christianity until immigrants came. The Pledge of Allegiance was created in the time when most people were Christians. The term "In God We Trust" was started during a time when most people were Christians. But now our country is VERY DIVERSE, and this really brings the government in a confused state at the moment. With gay marriage and abortion strongly opposed by Conservative Christians who want the US to become a Christian nation, it's hard to have it enforced right.

[Remember, playing the opposite side here] Right, but have we not, as the most democratic democracy there is, been okay? Furthermore, the terms "In God we trust" and "One nation under God" are no longer directed towards the singular Christian God, but rather, as this entity that just basically wishes our country the best. Besides, many religions share various common beliefs that isn't only found in the Christian religion. That's why we should have a loose separation of church and state; this is why it exists in our country. And, our country being the most democratic democracy (as I mentioned before), shows that this is the way it best works. On top of that, religion is ultimately tied to history. You point out that our country was founded by Christians - to deny and separate religion from our country is denying its roots. Besides, the President of the First National Convention, George Washington, was a deist, not a Christian. There was another man present without Christian beliefs (I can't remember his name), but this even shows that if they believed there needed to be a strict separation of church and state, they would've included it in the Constitution itself.

yes, democracy need strict separation of church and state.

for this i will use the example of Alabama Cheif Justice Roy Moore.
Roy Moore was known as the Ten Commandments judge. Most the state supported him. It's well know he's a christian.

He allowed christianity a place in his courtroom. It would not matter if he were not a member of the government.

because of this; if a christian and non-christian were in his court, who would he favor?

this seems pretty obvious.

anyways: if religion is allowed in democracy, those with the favored religion will enivitablly be favored.

Don't worry - I'm not saying we shouldn't have any separation of church and state, but simply a loose one - there'll still be restrictions. Once again, if you think about it, we have a loose separation present today. Our morals, beliefs, and values come from religion - they're what the government officials use to help them with their law-making decisions.