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Claims of the Catholic Church
JlIaTMK
post Dec 29 2004, 05:15 PM
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This was an actual letter sent out by the St. Mary's Church:

If Your Child is a Gothic, Reform Through the Lord!

Listed below are some warning signs to indicate if your
child may have gone astray from the Lord.

Gothic (or goth) is a very obscure and often dangerous
culture that young teenagers are prone to participating in. The gothic culture leads young, susceptible minds into an imagined world of evil,darkness, and violence. Please seek immediate attention through counselling, prayer,
and parental guidance to rid your child of Satan's temptations if five or more of the following are applicable to your child:

-Frequently wears black clothing.

-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.

-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.

-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include:
reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various
other
Satanic
worshipping symbols.

-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.

-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of
music. (Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks
against the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)

-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak
eccentrically.

-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such
as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports.

-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic,
the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.

-Takes drugs.

-Drinks alcohol.

-Is suicidal and/or depressed.

-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation. (This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God and
His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local mental health center.)

-Complains of boredom.

-Sleeps too excessively or too little.

-Is excessively awake during the night.

-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to
vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)

-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.

-Spends large amounts of time alone.

-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your chid may speak to evil sprits through meditation.)

-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.

-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and
elders are but a few examples of this.

-Misbehaves at school.

-Misbehaves at home.

-Eats excessively or too little.

-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.

-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood.
(Vampires believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and should be stopped immediately.)

-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media
sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.)

-Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature.

-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.

-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.

-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.

-Expresses an interest in sex.

-Masturbates

-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.

-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.

-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".

-Claims to be a goth.

If five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene immediately. The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it. If any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental health center.

~St. Mary's Catholic Church

OKAY, FIRST OF ALL, I DONT THINK JESUS WOULD WANT PEOPLE TO HATE AGAINST OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY DO AND APPEARANCES and also jesus was openminded for his day and today, the openmindedness of that time is considered normal.... so i think jesus would be openminded to most of these things on the list eh, and most gothic people think jesus is horrid and evil its just... the people that follow this current religion of christianity make him to look so evil and unopenminded. i seriously would think he would hate what their doing to his religion. he actually FOUGHT for the right to believe whatever you want against the jews, not against it :)
 
 
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OriskybusinessO
post Jan 2 2005, 01:12 PM
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Well here's another reason that I am anti-religion...

Frequently wears black clothing. Wears band and/or rock t-shirts. Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.

So now some people arent allowed to wear black eh? What other colors will they ban next? Brown? Red? And no rock shirts? How about no tye-dye shirts or no 'Im With Stupid' shirts? What is the world coming to?

Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include:
reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other Satanic worshipping symbols.


Now that may be ture to some extent, but if you have one or 2 peices of jewelry like that you should not be punished for a form of clothing.

Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.

Now, I myslef think that tattoos are stupid, but for the sake of human rights, a person should be able to get ink permenatly injected into their skin if they want.

Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of
music. (Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks
against the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)


'Anti-social genres'?

Associates with other people that dress, act or speak
eccentrically.


'Eccentrically'?

Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such
as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports.


Lots of people should have the right notto go to church. And a lot of people dont like sports, they would rather be shopping in the mall, or at church... ah ha!

Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic,
the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.


Now thats kind of freaky but, if its Harry Potter let them read the damn books.

Takes drugs. Drinks alcohol.

Now thats not 'Satanic' thats giving into peer pressure.

Is suicidal and/or depressed.

I am depressed because I have no friends, and I dont worship the devil, i dont even believe hes real, which they would probably get all over me for.

Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation. (This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God and
His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local mental health center.)


Mental health center! Ha! Its a stage that teenagers go through! Basically all this stuff on this list is.

Complains of boredom.

Thats like saying 'Its satanic if you complain that you are hungry.'

Sleeps too excessively or too little. Is excessively awake during the night.

Yes, it is called insomnia

Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to
vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)


Some people, such as myself, take an acne medication and it makes them VERY sensitive to the sun. And most people dont like a bright red face and peeling skin to go back to school with.

Demands an unusual amount of privacy. Spends large amounts of time alone.
Doesnt everyone? Sometimes you are PMSing and you dont WANT to talk to anyone.

Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your chid may speak to evil sprits through meditation.)

Now this one is really offensive. Meditation is a form of relaxation. Not worshipping the devil.

Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.

This is just another part of our stage as teenagers. We want to be with our friends. Not our boring parents tongue.gif

Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a few examples of this.

Teenager stage.

Misbehaves at school. Misbehaves at home.

Teenager stage.

Eats excessively or too little.

TEENAGER STAGE.

Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.

Thats just stupid. Its like saying 'If you own a 2-story house you are worshipping the devil.'

Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood.
(Vampires believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and should be stopped immediately.)


Damn right its dangerous! Who drinks blood?

Watches cable television or any other corrupted media
sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.)


Corrupetd? Thats life deal with it. Yet, there are 'proper programs that your child may watch' on cable?

Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature.

Teenager stage, well at least for boys, i dont know may girls that play action games. We like Ms. Pac Man. laugh.gif

Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.

What links the internet and satan?

Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music. Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.

Dont we all?

Expresses an interest in sex.

Teenager stage...

Masturbates

Basically all of the world masturbates...

Is homosexual and/or bisexual.

Now thats just... that is the one that makes me mad. i am speechless. I hate people that are so close minded. I could go on and on, I am not homosexual i just think that EVERYBODY should have their rights.

Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.

Speechless, everyone should have theri rights.

Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth". Claims to be a goth.

Same with the clothing rights.

Who is left after this brutal attack. I think that everyone in the world fits into one of thoese 'guidelines'. I would like to talk to one of these hardcore Catholics. But they would probably be afriad to talk to me because I am apparently a worshiper of satan...

its seems as if starfaerie06 and I are fairly similar.
 

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JlIaTMK   Claims of the Catholic Church   Dec 29 2004, 05:15 PM
MyVermilionPlague   I agree with you, Jordan. There are a few points t...   Dec 29 2004, 05:35 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   wtf? thats seem racism and shallow to me. some of ...   Dec 29 2004, 05:55 PM
JlIaTMK   QUOTE(aznxboredxperson @ Dec 29 2004, 5:55 PM...   Dec 29 2004, 08:05 PM
sadolakced acid   Wow. i worship satan. hahahahahahahaha... Q...   Dec 29 2004, 10:45 PM
tweeak   psssssssst there are many parts to the catholic ch...   Dec 29 2004, 11:36 PM
comeupon   Gothic is actually a biblical term, technically go...   Dec 30 2004, 05:00 AM
JlIaTMK   QUOTE(comeupon @ Dec 30 2004, 5:00 AM)Gothic ...   Dec 30 2004, 05:21 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(JlIaTMK @ Dec 30 2004, 5:21 PM)no, it I...   Dec 31 2004, 02:09 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 31 2004, 2:09 PM)The on...   Dec 31 2004, 02:20 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Dec 31 2004, 2:20 PM)Wo...   Dec 31 2004, 02:27 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 31 2004, 2:27 PM)/me sh...   Dec 31 2004, 02:33 PM
DaTru KataLYST   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 31 2004, 11:27 AM)/me s...   Dec 31 2004, 02:42 PM
DaTru KataLYST   QUOTEhave you ever heard of the religion universal...   Dec 31 2004, 02:28 PM
mai_z   ^^ yes, but the modern definition of goth no longe...   Dec 30 2004, 08:46 AM
ComradeRed   Check. Nope. No makeup for me. I have a...   Dec 30 2004, 09:21 AM
.kyan   WOW! (lmfao!) that just made me fall off ...   Dec 30 2004, 12:29 PM
runforfun529   wow, I'm a goth. About everyone I know is a g...   Dec 30 2004, 01:10 PM
MyVermilionPlague   Pathetic. -Frequently wears black clothing. -Wea...   Dec 30 2004, 02:19 PM
azn_r4pf4n   Oh c'mon, what about black suits? Some ...   Dec 30 2004, 03:05 PM
kryogenix   this topic is a bit misleading. you write "th...   Dec 30 2004, 04:47 PM
tweeak   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 30 2004, 4:47 PM)this t...   Dec 30 2004, 05:12 PM
sheepy   okay thats just so messed up...   Dec 30 2004, 05:28 PM
Kathleen   I'm sorry, but that's hilarious.   Dec 30 2004, 07:06 PM
honorguard   I think I'm turning into a goth! I eat cou...   Dec 30 2004, 07:42 PM
inquisitive_   This is one of the funniest yet dumbest thing I...   Dec 30 2004, 07:51 PM
honorguard   QUOTE(inquisitive_ @ Dec 31 2004, 9:51 AM)Thi...   Dec 30 2004, 08:43 PM
inquisitive_   Yeah, I read that but there is really no prove tha...   Dec 30 2004, 10:06 PM
JlIaTMK   QUOTE(inquisitive_ @ Dec 30 2004, 10:06 PM)Ye...   Dec 30 2004, 11:29 PM
Zyryll   i don't get goths... i find goths kind odd... ...   Dec 31 2004, 03:04 AM
JlIaTMK   QUOTE(Zyryll @ Dec 31 2004, 3:04 AM)i don...   Jan 1 2005, 10:44 PM
OverallEffect   hehe.. wow. I apply to 26/38. I'm eviler tha...   Dec 31 2004, 05:33 AM
tweeak   QUOTE(JlIaTMK @ Dec 30 2004, 5:21 PM)there is...   Dec 31 2004, 12:59 PM
starfaerie06   Well... I'm not a Catholic or a Christian but ...   Dec 31 2004, 02:44 PM
DaTru KataLYST   ^ holy crap i think u are the antichrist.. jp =]   Dec 31 2004, 02:46 PM
starfaerie06   QUOTE(DaTru KataLYST @ Dec 31 2004, 2:46 PM)^...   Dec 31 2004, 02:52 PM
Zyryll   QUOTE(tweeak @ Dec 31 2004, 12:59 PM)will you...   Dec 31 2004, 03:12 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Zyryll @ Dec 31 2004, 3:12 PM)my posts ...   Dec 31 2004, 03:16 PM
tweeak   QUOTE(Zyryll @ Dec 31 2004, 3:12 PM)my posts ...   Dec 31 2004, 03:20 PM
starfaerie06   ^^^ you tell 'em   Dec 31 2004, 03:16 PM
starfaerie06   I wasn't talking to you   Dec 31 2004, 03:30 PM
tweeak   you were talking to him about me   Dec 31 2004, 03:36 PM
starfaerie06   yes   Dec 31 2004, 03:59 PM
tweeak   QUOTE(starfaerie06 @ Dec 31 2004, 3:59 PM)yes...   Dec 31 2004, 04:18 PM
DaTru KataLYST   omg jp = just playing   Dec 31 2004, 04:05 PM
sammi rules you   -Frequently wears black clothing. i don't, but...   Dec 31 2004, 08:34 PM
Zyryll   man... you guys take thing to seriously. hehe.   Jan 1 2005, 01:03 AM
DaTru KataLYST   QUOTE(Zyryll @ Dec 31 2004, 10:03 PM)man... y...   Jan 1 2005, 03:37 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Zyryll @ Jan 1 2005, 1:03 AM)man... you...   Jan 1 2005, 12:10 PM
FreeStickers   -Frequently wears black clothing. -Wears band and...   Jan 1 2005, 01:34 AM
sadolakced acid   QUOTEmy posts are opinionated and wrong... well ab...   Jan 1 2005, 01:52 PM
OriskybusinessO   Well here's another reason that I am anti-reli...   Jan 2 2005, 01:12 PM
starfaerie06   I was just thinking the same thing. QUOTEEats ...   Jan 2 2005, 02:48 PM
starfaerie06   I found another one... http://www.seabrite.com/mil...   Jan 8 2005, 04:54 PM
sadolakced acid   apparently the church belives money is satanic. i...   Jan 8 2005, 06:15 PM
JlIaTMK   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jan 8 2005, 6:15 PM) ...   Jan 9 2005, 03:43 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jan 8 2005, 6:15 PM)a...   Jan 9 2005, 04:28 PM
OriskybusinessO   Haha, seabrite.com says Dungeons and Dragons is sa...   Jan 8 2005, 07:18 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(OriskybusinessO @ Jan 8 2005, 7:18 PM)H...   Jan 8 2005, 07:24 PM
starfaerie06   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jan 8 2005, 7:24 PM)Rea...   Jan 9 2005, 12:30 PM
Weird addiction   thats very very stupid!   Jan 9 2005, 12:54 PM
Azn Kid from NY   Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of ...   Jan 9 2005, 04:11 PM
sadolakced acid   you know that they're talking about the upside...   Jan 9 2005, 04:17 PM
emptyminded   Well I think that was wrong for the church to send...   Jan 9 2005, 05:10 PM
islandgirl4eva   I'm Catholic...and this right here seems way e...   Jan 9 2005, 06:19 PM
ghetosmurph   That isn't any kind of actual teaching or clai...   Jan 13 2005, 12:13 AM
starfaerie06   QUOTE(ghetosmurph @ Jan 13 2005, 12:13 AM)Tha...   Jan 13 2005, 07:40 AM
sadolakced acid   don't like... clergy wear black? yes; th...   Jan 13 2005, 12:30 AM
Spirited Away   And once again, I have to ask: Would the Pope dis...   Jan 13 2005, 12:35 AM
sadolakced acid   i don't think the pope would disagreee. whic...   Jan 13 2005, 12:43 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jan 13 2005, 12:43 AM...   Jan 13 2005, 12:46 AM
SkaironFrenzy   QUOTE(JlIaTMK @ Dec 29 2004, 5:15 PM)OKAY, FI...   Jan 13 2005, 05:20 PM
xcaitlinx   this makes me sick. absolutely sick to my stomach....   Jan 13 2005, 08:00 PM
salcha   HAHAHAHAHA. this makes me laugh errrgh, yes i am c...   Jan 13 2005, 08:44 PM
starfaerie06   I'd like you to find me a teenager that DOESN...   Jan 13 2005, 09:01 PM
sadolakced acid   does a past one count? cus it's like old pe...   Jan 13 2005, 10:02 PM
starfaerie06   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jan 13 2005, 10:02 PM...   Jan 13 2005, 10:19 PM
krispy_kreme333   holy shit man i have no idea on where to start, i ...   Jan 14 2005, 05:25 PM
starfaerie06   it made sense... but ur banner scares me. lol   Jan 15 2005, 12:27 AM
Days Nearly Over   30/38. Wow. I'm goth. Yay?   Jan 15 2005, 12:33 AM
espionage   QUOTEPursues dangerous cult religions. Such includ...   Jan 15 2005, 01:50 AM
sadolakced acid   because luke undermines the church's athority,...   Jan 15 2005, 02:02 AM
iiiiiiiYON   YEA YEA YEA PRAiSE THE LORD... ONcE i SAW A GUY AT...   Jan 17 2005, 02:02 AM
kryogenix   My conclusion: The document source is a bit shady...   Jan 17 2005, 04:03 PM
JlIaTMK   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jan 17 2005, 4:03 PM)My con...   Jan 17 2005, 06:59 PM
WhiteLotus*   QUOTE-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cerea...   Jan 23 2005, 11:26 PM
ilauqh   that's so cruel of a CHURCH to be so stereotyp...   Jan 24 2005, 11:52 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(ilauqh @ Jan 24 2005, 11:52 PM)that...   Jan 25 2005, 12:43 PM
sammi rules you   pale skin?? dammit, i've been trying to get ri...   Jan 25 2005, 06:26 PM
JlIaTMK   QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Jan 25 2005, 6:26 PM)...   Jan 25 2005, 09:01 PM
auroradude   your skin doesnt look pale? you are very pretty   Jan 25 2005, 06:53 PM


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