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The Creator(s), Three Simple Questions
darkphyre
post Dec 23 2004, 07:56 PM
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Three simple questions:

Question 1: Do you believe that it is likely that the universe was created by an advanced (omnipotent?) being?

Question 2: If you answered "yes" to Question 1, do you believe that it is likely that said advanced being was created by an even more advanced being?

Questions 3: If you answered "no" to Question 2, why are your answers to Questions 1 and 2 different?
 
 
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TreesTurnMeOn
post Dec 27 2004, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(darkphyre @ Dec 24 2004, 10:12 PM)
My question to you, then, is why do you see it as necessary that the universe have a creator, but not that God has a creator.

To simplify, many people argue that God must exist because something must have created the universe, and this suggests the existence of a god-like being. However, if we require that everything (ie. the universe) have a creator, then why do we discard the logical conclusion that God must also have a creator?

To simplify even more:

1) Everything must have a cause.
2) God is likely the cuase of the universe.
3) God must have been created by something.

If 1) is true, 2) is likely true. However, if 1) and 2) are both true, than 3) must also be true. If 1) is false, then 2) and 3) are likely false.

Thus, the most likely situations, logically, are:

1) God exists and has a creator, or
2) God doesn't exist.

Let me ask YOU this.

If God had a creator, then who would have created his creator? And who would have created him? And who him? So on and so forth.

I find it necessary to believe that God created the universe because that is what I have been brought up to believe. You don't HAVE to have an explenation for this because he is one very confusing spirit. I believe in him, I believe what I have been taught, and don't tell me otherwise.

Not everything has to have an explanation. We all have to believe in something, now don't we?
 

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darkphyre   The Creator(s)   Dec 23 2004, 07:56 PM
tofumonzter   may i add a question to the lists of your question...   Dec 23 2004, 08:00 PM
darkphyre   That's not really relevent to what I am trying...   Dec 23 2004, 08:05 PM
TreesTurnMeOn   Yes/yes   Dec 23 2004, 09:26 PM
basick   question one: no   Dec 23 2004, 09:37 PM
TreesTurnMeOn   QUOTE(TreesTurnMeOn @ Dec 23 2004, 9:26 PM)Ye...   Dec 23 2004, 09:42 PM
Skyline Drive   Its iffy... So I'm unsure.   Dec 24 2004, 01:00 AM
K!$$   all no for me =\   Dec 24 2004, 01:34 AM
darkphyre   QUOTE(TreesTurnMeOn @ Dec 23 2004, 9:42 PM)AH...   Dec 24 2004, 02:26 PM
TreesTurnMeOn   QUOTE(darkphyre @ Dec 24 2004, 2:26 PM)You fo...   Dec 24 2004, 02:38 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   yes/yes i think human are getting more advancer b...   Dec 24 2004, 06:05 PM
darkphyre   QUOTE(TreesTurnMeOn @ Dec 24 2004, 2:38 PM)Be...   Dec 24 2004, 10:12 PM
relicwcircuits   i say to those questions that it's impossible ...   Dec 26 2004, 11:57 AM
electric shock   the universe it so interesting and so... amazing j...   Dec 26 2004, 06:10 PM
picaso_smile   yes no If that being is omnipotent, why would it h...   Dec 26 2004, 11:31 PM
darkphyre   QUOTE(Spiritedfreak @ Dec 26 2004, 6:10 PM)If...   Dec 27 2004, 12:37 PM
TreesTurnMeOn   QUOTE(darkphyre @ Dec 24 2004, 10:12 PM)My qu...   Dec 27 2004, 01:21 PM
darkphyre   QUOTE(TreesTurnMeOn @ Dec 27 2004, 1:21 PM)Le...   Dec 28 2004, 11:26 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(TreesTurnMeOn @ Dec 27 2004, 1:21 PM)Le...   Dec 28 2004, 11:57 PM


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