you can't have it both ways! Options

[*kryogenix*]

is it fair that non-christians celebrate christmas with presents and christmas trees? i can't stand it when people openly say how they hate religion and christianity, then come christmas time, they brag about their christmas presents. that goes for easter too. people openly reject jesus christ's resurrection but they celebrate easter. and to add insult to injury, they completely change the meaning by having egghunts and bunnies.

-edit- uh yeah. you can't have it both ways! either become a christian and partake in our holidays, or stay an atheist/agnostic and don't celebrate our holidays, and don't change our holidays either!

[Spirited Away]

How would there be Christmas presents before that if that if those presents were given on Christmas, starting the tradition of the Christmas gift.

Uh, no.

Why is it that you think gifts are given for Christmas purposes?

Why is that the world and its holidays must seemingly revolve around Christmas?

Do some research. You know what, I've done it for you, all you people need to do is just read this, okay? Scroll down to the section where it says "Why do we give gifts at this time of year?". It's THAT SIMPLE.

Sunday School doesn't teach you about the world, you need to really look out there on your own.

Christians originally did NOT approve of giving gifts, therefore, it is NOT a Christian tradition, but rather, it was ADOPTED from Pagans.

GET OVER YOURSELVES!!!

I think we should celebrate Christmas in September. But, then people would still celebrate Christmas on the 25 and call it Christmas................ Maybe December 25 should be called Presentmas? Or Giftmas??

Why don't you then? Who cares what's it's called. You people are the ones who don't want us calling Christmas, Christmas. We don't care either. Just QUIT HOGGING IN DECEMBER 25th saying that we don't have a right to hold celebration. That's RIDICULOUSLY DISCRIMINATING.

Christians are not bothered because they don't want to share Jesus or anything... The idea is that people are taking a religious holiday and shoving the religious part out of the window. Then, using it as a secular holdiday and a reason to accept and accumulate mountains of physical possessions insted of just accepting Jesus.

Those who taking the religious holiday and shoving the religious part out of the window ARE CHRISTIANS. PERIOD. Please do not say that it's the fault of Non-Christians that Christmas is what it is today because it isn't. Since BEFORE Christianity, Non-Christians already established a tradition of celebration on Dec. 25th, thus there is NO right or wrong way for us to celebrate it. It is CHRISTIANS who forget themselves and celebrate the day as they like.

I think that's the point, not that we want the holiday to ourselves.

No, I think the point is quite clear, or else I and others wouldn't come on as strongly as we are now.