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Jul 1 2004, 08:04 PM
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is it fair that non-christians celebrate christmas with presents and christmas trees? i can't stand it when people openly say how they hate religion and christianity, then come christmas time, they brag about their christmas presents. that goes for easter too. people openly reject jesus christ's resurrection but they celebrate easter. and to add insult to injury, they completely change the meaning by having egghunts and bunnies.
-edit- uh yeah. you can't have it both ways! either become a christian and partake in our holidays, or stay an atheist/agnostic and don't celebrate our holidays, and don't change our holidays either! |
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Dec 14 2004, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 13 2004, 10:41 PM) i'm sure there were presents before that. we will complain that you stole someone's holiday and now won't give it back. celebrate jesus's birth in september, please, if you don't want non-christians celebrating christmas. How would there be Christmas presents before that if that if those presents were given on Christmas, starting the tradition of the Christmas gift. I think we should celebrate Christmas in September. But, then people would still celebrate Christmas on the 25 and call it Christmas................ Maybe December 25 should be called Presentmas? Or Giftmas?? QUOTE if this is true and he loves everyone equally, then when everyone is dead wouldnt god and jesus let everyone comeup and party wit them? so why is there a hell, i dont think your gonna let somoone you"love" go to tthe flames that burn but doesnot consume. I dont hate the people, i just hate the religion, i dont understand the fact taht supposedly if god is everywehre then why do you have to go to this church every sunday and listen to someguy that looks like dracula tell you wut you must belive in..... YOUR HUMANS!!!... belive in wut you wanna belive, personally i choose no religion.... spirituality is key But if you reject God and don't belive in him why would you even want to go "party with him"? God is everywhere. The church is his 'house". You go to church to be closer with God and to have fellowship with other Christians. QUOTE So are you bothered with people using the now seemingly patented term "Christmas" instead of Winter Holidays because that's what I am feeling. It seems that while people want to spread the word and love of Christ, they also want the love of Christ to be exclusive. Meaning, only Christians are allowed to say Christmas... If that's the case, then blame the Pope for choosing Christmas to be on December 25th Christians are not bothered because they don't want to share Jesus or anything... The idea is that people are taking a religious holiday and shoving the religious part out of the window. Then, using it as a secular holdiday and a reason to accept and accumulate mountains of physical possessions insted of just accepting Jesus. I think that's the point, not that we want the holiday to ourselves. |
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kryogenix you can't have it both ways! Jul 1 2004, 08:04 PM
JlIaTMK wow kinda abrupt.... Christmas has become a nation... Jul 2 2004, 07:06 PM
XaZnX07 wow you are really offended by this sorry you feel... Jul 2 2004, 07:13 PM
Spirited Away My family doesn't celebrate Christmas and we d... Jul 2 2004, 08:53 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 2 2004, 8:53 PM)My ... Jul 2 2004, 09:33 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 2 2004, 9:33 PM)Good fo... Jul 2 2004, 09:42 PM
EmeraldKnight QUOTEBut you know what, Christmas is not so attach... Jul 2 2004, 11:55 PM
ryfitaDF so santa claus and the easter bunny have ANYTHING ... Jul 3 2004, 12:18 AM
Rock_Lee QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 1 2004, 8:04 PM)is it f... Jul 3 2004, 12:20 AM
EmeraldKnight QUOTEso santa claus and the easter bunny have ANYT... Jul 3 2004, 12:21 AM
MyVermilionPlague This is a rather difficult topic..
Christmas has ... Jul 3 2004, 06:34 AM
kryogenix I'm fine with the gift giving, santa claus and... Jul 3 2004, 10:59 AM
onenonly101 Exactly. I hate when people twist holidays and try... Jul 3 2004, 11:05 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 3 2004, 11:05 AM)Exac... Jul 3 2004, 12:21 PM
MyVermilionPlague QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 3 2004, 10:59 AM)I... Jul 3 2004, 01:08 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(InTheMudHole @ Jul 3 2004, 1:08 PM)Yeah... Jul 3 2004, 01:10 PM
MyVermilionPlague QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 3 2004, 1:10 PM)Pff... Jul 3 2004, 01:38 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(InTheMudHole @ Jul 3 2004, 1:38 PM)Just... Jul 3 2004, 07:49 PM
ComradeRed Christmas has a secular side too.
THe way I see i... Jul 3 2004, 09:23 PM
x hYpErRoSeY x thatz definatley unfair n ur really upset bout thi... Jul 3 2004, 09:27 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(x hYpErRoSeY x @ Jul 3 2004, 9:27 PM)th... Jul 3 2004, 09:39 PM
MyVermilionPlague QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 3 2004, 7:49 PM)Sur... Jul 3 2004, 10:11 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(InTheMudHole @ Jul 3 2004, 10:11 PM)Jee... Jul 3 2004, 10:37 PM
EmeraldKnight QUOTEJeez.
There's no reason for people to th... Jul 3 2004, 10:38 PM
haejung012 it depends... some people belive that santa is ant... Jul 5 2004, 12:36 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 3 2004, 10:38 PM)Th... Jul 5 2004, 01:33 PM
ichiban Hmm .. I'm a Christian and I celebrate Christm... Jul 5 2004, 02:27 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(ichiban @ Jul 5 2004, 2:27 PM)Hmm .. I... Jul 5 2004, 02:28 PM
angel-roh hmm i guess i understand u, james... heh i dont ce... Jul 5 2004, 05:48 PM
i ami_am i think basically every celebrates christmas and i... Jul 5 2004, 08:36 PM
tainted_angel I guess it's hypocritical, but I mean, what is... Jul 5 2004, 08:40 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(tainted_angel @ Jul 5 2004, 8:40 PM)I g... Jul 5 2004, 08:42 PM
EmeraldKnight QUOTEit depends... some people belive that santa i... Jul 5 2004, 09:40 PM
rnrn897 ahem.. not many ppl know that christmas is actuall... Jul 6 2004, 02:11 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(rnrn897 @ Jul 6 2004, 2:11 PM)ahem.. no... Jul 6 2004, 03:02 PM
abstracted What's wrong with non-Christians celebrating C... Jul 6 2004, 07:43 PM
poisonedxivy i understand what you're saying and partly agr... Jul 6 2004, 11:50 PM
OriskybusinessO Well... my parents USED to be religous and do all ... Jul 8 2004, 09:28 PM
redsoxbaby87 QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 1 2004, 8:04 PM)is it f... Jul 17 2004, 04:11 PM
tyedyefroggy I was just wondering if you, personally, would rat... Jul 17 2004, 04:39 PM
shawty_redd QUOTE(tyedyefroggy @ Jul 17 2004, 3:39 PM)
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onenonly101 Christmas is not the nations holiday, it is religo... Jul 18 2004, 04:47 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(shawty_redd @ Jul 18 2004, 3:12 PM)nope... Jul 18 2004, 09:53 PM
sadolakced acid to me, christmas is a time for caring, a time for ... Jul 19 2004, 01:12 PM
onenonly101 QUOTEImagine this, you're invited into a Hindu... Jul 19 2004, 02:13 PM
CrackedRearView I'll bet the phrase "X-mas" really p... Jul 19 2004, 05:19 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 19 2004, 2:13 PM)When... Jul 19 2004, 06:27 PM
Sumiaki QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 3 2004, 12:21 AM)Di... Jul 20 2004, 12:27 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(WunKraziePinoy @ Jul 20 2004, 12:27 PM)... Jul 20 2004, 12:40 PM
sadolakced acid see, holiday spirit.
christmas isn't about ... Jul 20 2004, 03:23 PM
J.K mm well christmas was orginally a pagan holiday...... Jul 21 2004, 12:07 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(Arimalka @ Jul 22 2004, 4:51 PM)Holiday... Jul 22 2004, 04:57 PM
sadolakced acid alright. i won't celebrate christmas. i won... Jul 22 2004, 05:22 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 22 2004, 5:22 PM)... Jul 22 2004, 07:14 PM
sadolakced acid haha. but they can't celebrate christmas at a... Jul 22 2004, 08:10 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 22 2004, 8:10 PM)... Jul 22 2004, 09:21 PM
bibliomania Christmas is now more like... national holiday now... Jul 26 2004, 01:40 PM
jo3 QUOTEGeez, now I have to celebrate 'pine tree ... Jul 26 2004, 04:00 PM
sadolakced acid i know some people who's parents stopped with ... Jul 31 2004, 12:21 PM
DaToNeViEtBoI916 im buddhists..we celebrate all holidays of ne reli... Jul 31 2004, 03:56 PM
[i]LLMATiC QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 2 2004, 7:33 PM)Good fo... Aug 5 2004, 01:37 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE([i)LLMATiC,Aug 5 2004, 1:37 PM] i knoe ... Aug 5 2004, 01:43 PM
sadolakced acid which makes most the world not good christains.
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DaToNeViEtBoI916 QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 5 2004, 2:06 PM)w... Aug 6 2004, 03:38 PM
SH0RTAYE ... christmas ... so youre saying ... only CHRiSTi... Aug 6 2004, 04:06 PM
sadolakced acid no, we've proven that christians that think on... Aug 6 2004, 04:08 PM
Ze world is a Mask waht if jesus isnt real and never was heard? and... Aug 6 2004, 05:34 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 6 2004, 4:08 PM)n... Aug 6 2004, 11:20 PM
sadolakced acid yea, i know the christians stole a lot of pagan ho... Aug 7 2004, 10:24 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 7 2004, 10:24 AM)... Aug 7 2004, 12:41 PM
sadolakced acid well, seeing as how it's nearing holidays, let... Dec 8 2004, 11:03 PM
niez_cho I guess it doesn't really matter if non-Christ... Dec 9 2004, 12:04 AM
ComradeRed http://www.chestnutcafe.com/cafe/X-Mas.html
QUOTE... Dec 9 2004, 07:18 AM
stryker76 i feel like this about Christmas. Yeah Christians ... Dec 9 2004, 08:46 AM
xtrashx wow... harsh... do you celebrate halloween? becaus... Dec 9 2004, 08:53 AM
Jealousy It does seems strange that everyone is given chris... Dec 9 2004, 10:19 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(xtrashx @ Dec 9 2004, 8:53 AM)wow... ha... Dec 9 2004, 04:49 PM
sadolakced acid all saints day's eve is another stolen holiday... Dec 9 2004, 07:02 PM
picaso_smile I say if non-christian want to celebrate santa ins... Dec 9 2004, 08:15 PM
sadolakced acid it disrespectful to steal a holiday, call it your ... Dec 9 2004, 08:24 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(picaso_smile @ Dec 9 2004, 8:15 PM)I sa... Dec 9 2004, 09:29 PM
pandamonium QUOTERead the whole thread, please?
Christmas was... Dec 9 2004, 09:45 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(pandamonium @ Dec 9 2004, 9:45 PM)She w... Dec 9 2004, 10:35 PM
Heathasm i dont take things so literally. i think of xmas a... Dec 10 2004, 03:26 AM
picaso_smile QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Dec 9 2004, 10:35 PM)Wh... Dec 10 2004, 05:01 PM
sadolakced acid christmas in american does not belong to christian... Dec 10 2004, 05:15 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Dec 9 2004, 9:29 PM)Chr... Dec 10 2004, 05:16 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(picaso_smile @ Dec 10 2004, 5:01 PM)How... Dec 10 2004, 05:21 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTEReally, people at my school badmouth God and ... Dec 10 2004, 05:25 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 10 2004, 5:25 PM)... Dec 10 2004, 05:28 PM
Spirited Away QUOTEI don't think you're understanding wh... Dec 10 2004, 05:32 PM
sammi rules you i celebrate christmas, but we don't like, pray... Dec 11 2004, 12:27 PM
Kriegsgefangene I may not believe, really. I don't have a rel... Dec 11 2004, 12:59 PM
xtrashx QUOTEAs far as I believe, Jesus and God love EVERY... Dec 12 2004, 12:57 AM
Oh4SuChSwEeTnEsS its funny...the first presents were the ones that ... Dec 13 2004, 10:23 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(Oh4SuChSwEeTnEsS @ Dec 13 2004, 10:23 P... Dec 13 2004, 10:37 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(Oh4SuChSwEeTnEsS @ Dec 13 2004, 9:23 PM... Dec 13 2004, 10:41 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(picaso_smile @ Dec 14 2004, 6:01 PM)How... Dec 14 2004, 11:59 PM
picaso_smile QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Dec 14 2004, 11:59 PM)U... Dec 17 2004, 09:19 PM![]() ![]() |