you can't have it both ways! Options

[*kryogenix*]

is it fair that non-christians celebrate christmas with presents and christmas trees? i can't stand it when people openly say how they hate religion and christianity, then come christmas time, they brag about their christmas presents. that goes for easter too. people openly reject jesus christ's resurrection but they celebrate easter. and to add insult to injury, they completely change the meaning by having egghunts and bunnies.

-edit- uh yeah. you can't have it both ways! either become a christian and partake in our holidays, or stay an atheist/agnostic and don't celebrate our holidays, and don't change our holidays either!

[Spirited Away]

I don't think you're understanding what I'm trying to say. Christmas is not Christmas without Christ. Although, it can be said that giving gifts and getting together can represent the Nativity. Still, it is not right to call it Christmas when one does not believe in Jesus Christ. That would be like celebrating Martin Luther King Jr. Day while denying MLK JR ever existed. In fact, if I remember correctly we don't celebrate MLK day on his birthday, it's like the first monday of the first week of the month. Does that take away from the good MLK has done? Does that take away the reason for celebration?

So are you bothered with people using the now seemingly patented term "Christmas" instead of Winter Holidays because that's what I am feeling. It seems that while people want to spread the word and love of Christ, they also want the love of Christ to be exclusive. Meaning, only Christians are allowed to say Christmas... If that's the case, then blame the Pope for choosing Christmas to be on December 25th.

It's the commercialization of Christmas that bothers me. People who ARE Christians forget the real meaning. That is what really scares me. This is the reason why we must reclaim the name of Christmas, to avoid confusion.

Then it's okay to say that Christians are forgetting the meaning of Christmas but the rest of us are just using Christmas in place for Winter holidays. Once again, blame the pope for using a day that's already celebrated, instead of using Jesus Christ's real birthday, for the motive of conversion.

xtrashx does.

What about Jesus Christ offends you? (not sure if that is what you meant by your last line)

Really, people at my school badmouth God and Jesus, as if they were criminals. Why hate people who have (in the bible) done so much good? Just because one thinks they are made up doesn't justify their contempt for God. If they must hate someone, hate the false prophets and the ones who give incorrect information (like the people who exploited christianity to make money or the sex offenders). Just don't hate everyone who follows a particular religion.

Christ doesn't offend me until people push His words in my face. I wrote a little note to you in another thread about what kind of things tick me off when people talk about religion.

Personally, I don't think discussing God and Jesus as pushing but things like "God is the ONLY truth" would set me off a little.

I'll have to write later, must get back to work.