you can't have it both ways! Options

[*kryogenix*]

is it fair that non-christians celebrate christmas with presents and christmas trees? i can't stand it when people openly say how they hate religion and christianity, then come christmas time, they brag about their christmas presents. that goes for easter too. people openly reject jesus christ's resurrection but they celebrate easter. and to add insult to injury, they completely change the meaning by having egghunts and bunnies.

-edit- uh yeah. you can't have it both ways! either become a christian and partake in our holidays, or stay an atheist/agnostic and don't celebrate our holidays, and don't change our holidays either!

[Spirited Away]

How does Christmas not belong to Christians? How does Hanakah not belnog to the Jewish? Please explain this reasoning to me.

That's why I asked you to read the whole damn thread, the answer was already said many times.

Once again, the term Christmas may belong to Christians but it has become commercialized and intergrated into the mainstream to define the winter holidays in general. We can say Christmas or Winter Holidays, who gives a shit? The Holiday itself isn't Christian unless you want to celebrate for Christian purposes. If a person want to celebrate it for Winter holiday purposes then what's it to you?

And while you think that it's disrespectful for us to celebrate the Winter holidays while calling it Christmas, we think it's disrespectful for you to change the month of birth of Jesus Christ from September to December.

Also, some holidays may have been started to over shadow or compete with rival pagen religions way back when, but the meaning of those holidays still remains.

Uh, what the hell do you mean? Yes, the meaning of those holiday still remains. The fact Christians called Yule or Mithras Christmas doen't mean that December 25th's only purpose is to celebrate the birth of Christ. It's also to celebrate Yule and Mithras and other ORIGINAL holidays. So, yes you're right that the meaning of thet those holidays remain.

Once again, Christians DO NOT OWN December 25th.