you can't have it both ways! Options

[*kryogenix*]

is it fair that non-christians celebrate christmas with presents and christmas trees? i can't stand it when people openly say how they hate religion and christianity, then come christmas time, they brag about their christmas presents. that goes for easter too. people openly reject jesus christ's resurrection but they celebrate easter. and to add insult to injury, they completely change the meaning by having egghunts and bunnies.

-edit- uh yeah. you can't have it both ways! either become a christian and partake in our holidays, or stay an atheist/agnostic and don't celebrate our holidays, and don't change our holidays either!

[*kryogenix*]

Christ is said to be born in September and resurrected in April (?) though, so what does anything has to do with December? If the Church moved it to the present dates to make it easier on pagan conversion, then why criticize those who celebrate it for what it originally was and NOT for the purpose of the birth of Christ? I don't see a problem with different groups of people celebrating different beliefs, ideals, fun at the same time of the year. It's the season that brings different groups of people together. People call it Christmas because it's almost a commercialized term, a word that has integrated into the American mainstream that signifies the Winter holidays in general.

I don't think you're understanding what I'm trying to say. Christmas is not Christmas without Christ. Although, it can be said that giving gifts and getting together can represent the Nativity. Still, it is not right to call it Christmas when one does not believe in Jesus Christ. That would be like celebrating Martin Luther King Jr. Day while denying MLK JR ever existed. In fact, if I remember correctly we don't celebrate MLK day on his birthday, it's like the first monday of the first week of the month. Does that take away from the good MLK has done? Does that take away the reason for celebration?

It's the commercialization of Christmas that bothers me. People who ARE Christians forget the real meaning. That is what really scares me. This is the reason why we must reclaim the name of Christmas, to avoid confusion.

Who would badmouth Him for no apparent reason? Usually, I only offend when I feel offended.

xtrashx does.

What about Jesus Christ offends you? (not sure if that is what you meant by your last line)

Really, people at my school badmouth God and Jesus, as if they were criminals. Why hate people who have (in the bible) done so much good? Just because one thinks they are made up doesn't justify their contempt for God. If they must hate someone, hate the false prophets and the ones who give incorrect information (like the people who exploited christianity to make money or the sex offenders). Just don't hate everyone who follows a particular religion.